Hackers steal images from women’s dating safety app that ‘vets men’.
Tea app, which allows women to share details and reviews of men they have dated or are dating, has been hacked, with tens of thousands of female users photos stolen. The app supposedly ‘vets men’, but woman use it to check wheter men they are dating are also seeing other women. Such an app for men would be cancelled amid outrage within 24 hours. The motives for this hack are unknown. Is it just your usual cybercriminals, or could it be men’s rights activists? Could men actually be starting to fight back?
EDIT: It appears this was a case of men fighting back, as the hacked data and images immediately showed up on 4Chan (I even thought 4Chan had closed – Happy Days!). They are all almost universally ugly beyond belief. The sort of ‘HB10s’ that Eivind has success with on Tinder once every five years no doubt, lol.
https://x.com/skitzohousecat/status/1949258987863457922
https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1753629657668997.jpg
“A dating safety app that allows women to do background checks on men and anonymously share “red flag” behaviour has been hacked, exposing thousands of members’ images, posts and comments.
Tea Dating Advice, a US-based women-only app with 1.6 million users, said there had been “unauthorised access” to 72,000 images submitted by women.
Some included images of women holding photo identification for verification purposes, which Tea’s own privacy policy promises are “deleted immediately” after authentication.
Tea said the breach affected members who signed up before February 2024. It added it had “acted fast” and was “working with some of the most trusted cyber security experts”.”
https://infostormer.com/tea-app-hack-exposes-female-users-as-fat-and-ugly-hoes/
‘Inside the Paedophile Sting that Triggered a ‘Medieval Riot’
Just as we’ve been talking about the bizarre combination of technological progress and ‘medieval attitudes’ in modern societies like the UK, I read this story about a ‘pedo hunter’ sting in Hampshire that caused a riot which even the Daily (Fe)Mail calls ‘medieval’! However, as both commentator Steve and myself agree, the medieval era was far less backward in this regard than the present day.
“‘It was like medieval times’ says Richard Brixley as he fixes up his Harley Davidson Ultra Classic on his front drive, ‘someone had a flaming fence panel, they were blocking the road up at each end with riot vans, my partner was in the house terrified’.
The events the biker is describing unfolded last week on the Leigh Park housing estate in Havant, just outside Portsmouth in Hampshire.
Hours earlier, a vigilante ‘paedo hunter’ group known as Protecting Pompeys Innocent had begun a Facebook live stream confronting a man they accused of talking to a girl online he believed was 14-years-old.
That ‘girl’ was in fact a decoy from a group called the Child Online Safety Team. After the man allegedly sent a series of sickening messages to the ‘girl’, a group were sent in to confront him.
As news spread of the sting, hundreds of protesters, some allegedly travelling from miles away, swarmed onto Leigh Park – what happened next on the quiet estate once dubbed the largest council estate in Europe was shocking.
As police battled to keep the peace, parents jeered and cheered as their own children threw missiles at officers and tore down fences.
One resident recalled how terrifying it was: ‘It was like a proper riot, quite scary, all the shouting, there were kids pulling a fence down and their parents egging ’em on.
‘I understand people wanting to watch but don’t bring your children!'”
Rapper Diddy Escapes Possible Life Imprisonment
I know this is late news but I was unable to post much due to traveling, and for the sake of completeness..(and comments).
“Jurors decided not all the allegations were proven – but Combs still faces several years in prison after being convicted of transporting people across the US, including Cassie and another former girlfriend “Jane”, and paying male escorts to engage in sexual encounters.
However, with the not guilty verdict on three other more serious charges – racketeering conspiracy and two of sex trafficking – the 55-year-old has avoided a maximum possible sentence of life behind bars.”
I have somewhat mixed feelings when a celeb, especially a very popular celeb like Diddy, gets off on a ‘sex crime’ charge. On the one hand, justice has been served and feminism is denied another male victim of its sex laws. On the other, the more male celebs feminism puts behind bars, the greater the backlash will be (or at least, you would hope so).
Diddy still faces several years in prison for ‘prostitution’ charges, but faced a possible life sentence on the others that included trafficking. As far as I understand it, the first ‘trafficking’ bulls**t laws were introduced in the USA in the 1920’s specifically for Jack Johnson, the first black heavyweight champion who outraged White America by flaunting his blonde mistresses alongside him in his opentop car.
US Justice Department Finds No Epstein Client Case and DID Kill Himself
The conspiracy obsessed retards of both political parties in the USA will still find it hard to accept that he comitted suicide. He was a billionaire travelling the world on private jets, and had his own private island where – according to them – he was banging dozens or hundreds of hand-selected underage teen girls brought in from all over. Then he faced spending the rest of his life in a prison cell, constantly fearing being beaten, mutiliated, or raped by other prisoners, as well as knowing that his lover would likely be enduring the same. He had so much to live for! Why would he kill himself??
The only conspiracy was that Epstein was going to be a show trial to further embed the absurd idea into the public mind that sex with teenage girls is paedophilia and the worst crime in the world, a red line that even billionaires can’t cross without having their entire lives and reputations destroyed. What is unbelievable is that they have succeeded in brainwashing society so much that even trashy 16 year old girls running off time and time again to have sex with literal princes is supposedly something so henious for the girl that she eventually has to commit suicide herself rather than face the trauma.
A great (and brave) YouTube video from one of the last real MRAs in ‘CityCrusher’.
What I find depressing is that we now have a President of the United States with a whole string of bogus sexual abuse allegations under his name:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations
Yet what has this President done to put an end to this corruption of justice? Nothing, apart from a few men-friendly innuendos at the beginning of his mandate which we naively misinterpreted as a turning of the tables. I guess Trump is doing privately and publicly what men always do: blame other men (like political opponents). Anything but confront the gynocracy. Men are simply hard-wired never to see women as the enemy for more than a few seconds.
He even called his former good friend Epstein a ‘creep’ the other day.
“Men are simply hard-wired never to see women as the enemy for more than a few seconds.”
Yes, that is absolutely at the heart of our problem.
I asked Grok 4 (released a few days ago) whether prostitution should be legal. First it presented the case for legalization, and then the (feminist) case against. It’s conclusion:
“Personally, I lean toward decriminalization or legalization with strong safeguards, because evidence suggests it leads to better outcomes for public safety and human rights compared to outright bans. But it’s not a one-size-fits-all issue—cultural, economic, and social contexts matter a ton. What do you think? Are you coming at this from a legal, ethical, or personal angle? Or maybe you’ve got examples from somewhere specific?”
Encouraging!
An encouraging article I just came across: “Democrats should become the pro-porn party”. It’s apparently written by a woman too. https://www.thenation.com/article/society/supreme-court-porn-free-speech/
The problem is that it may appear on the surface in the USA that it’s all Republicans against porn, but at the grass roots level of lobbying it’s the usual left-wing feminists (admittedly, allying with femiservatives).
Funny how I’m a registered republican, yet I’m also completely against the anti-porn rhetoric. The age-verification laws in my state have been nothing but a ridiculous disaster. Isn’t that a shocker?
I remember reading a few months ago of a survey done in the USA into attitudes towards porn, and at least among young people, Republican voters were found to be more likely to be against anti-porn laws than Democrats. I’ll try to find the link to it.
If what you’re saying is true, then it seems as though it’s mainly the republican politicians who are anti-porn, not necessarily the republican voters themselves. Is that so?
It probably is, at least for younger Republicans. Obviously, speaking as a Brit, I’m not exactly an expert on US politics, but could it be that younger male Republicans are more likely to have a libertarian attitude and are reacting to the controlling nature of the modern Left, whereas older Republicans are more likely to be straight up conservative and Christian? That’s what I’ve picked up from online reading and YouTube videos.
And on the other hand, young male Democrat voters are more likely to be ‘male feminists’ and swallow the feminist line.
And I think in the survey there was a big gender difference, as usual, so it might have been different for female Democrat/Republican voters.
Hmm, speaking of the younger generation, I remember reading some Pew Research Center data last year and they concluded in one of their survey results that high school males are increasingly likely to be right-leaning on the political scale in terms of various issues. If I can find the link, I’ll post it here.
Yes, that’s the sort of thing I was referring to. I think it’s an international trend too. The media made a big thing about it in Germany recently when they had elections and young men were turning to the anti-immigrant AfD en masse.
I can tell you with 100% certainty that the Republicans are worse than the Democrats on male sexual rights, it’s not even close. Just look at the popularity of Charlie Kirk and Grady Judd, for example. These two are constantly pushing the most insane anti-male, radical feminism they can think of, to run their various grifts. And as a result, the male population suffers far more than the male population in Democrat areas. Look at the treatment of “sex offenders” in Florida, for example. The right wing pedocrites make life miserable for men.
Yeah, there’s no denying that Republicans/Conservatives are the most vocal about “pedophilia” and there was that Jesse Watters video that rolled my eyes. I’m not one of those.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-cUvA66O2g&pp=ygUdamVzc2Ugd2F0dGVycyBmbG9yaWRhIHZpbGxhZ2U%3D
Though, I have to ask…
How are Charlie Kirk and Grady Judy supporting feminism? A lot of these grifters are anything but that. From what I’ve seen of them, they don’t seem like anti-male or radically fem. Sure, they can be pedohysterical, but I’m curious…what lead you to that conclusion?
I know you are asking Steve, but I’d like to give my opinion, even though I’m obviously not so clued up on American politics or these figures.
Behind every paedohysteric Conservative there is a femiservative. Just this morning I was reading of “Farage’s Fillies” – women in the right-wing British Reform party supporting the anti-migrant/paedophile riots and protests taking place there:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14990705/No-surprise-vigilante-groups-Reform-women-Farages-Fillies.html
Personally I make little difference between feminists and femiservatives – they’re all representatives of the Sexual Trade Union, hijacking whichever political cause is influential, like parasites. Lol, the STU is like a STD. The only real issues they tend to disagree on is abortion, maybe mass immigration and a few other things. They will use the same feminist framework for justifying anti-sex laws, such as ‘consent’, ‘trafficking’, ‘exploitation’, ‘objectification’ and all the rest.
And in Europe, particularly at a grass roots level, virtually all the legislation stems from feminists.
AF is right on here. Grady Judd and Charlie Kirk constantly make the most extreme pedohysteric statements and call for extreme feminist penalties, especially when Judd is running one of his “human trafficking” prostitution entrapments, and when Kirk is talking to a femiservative. That last part is key, they are cucking their own gender as hard as they can to please female voters. It is despicable, nauseating, weak behavior, and it is because women are empowered politically. If it was just empty words, it wouldn’t be a problem, but penalties are more extreme in cuck right areas for breaking feminist hoax laws.
I’m sure you’ve heard the arguments from Dinesh D’Souza for example: “Democrats are the real misogynists” or “Republicans are the real woman respecters” etc etc. The cuck right essentially takes a horrible left wing concept and says they can do it more extreme than the left.
Hey theanftifeminist,
Thanks for mentioning me in your most recent news. Alas, I would have preferred the incident that is described in the article would not have happened in the first place.
Having read the article, it sadly confirms what I have encountered with British people pertaining this issue. Remember the story I mentioned in my comments with the older man hooking up with a woman in her early 20s? And how many of the Brits all of the sudden started parroting “nonce, nonce, nonce, nonce…” Ironically, the man in question was also British. So in hindsight I am glad that not every British person falls at least for the age gap hysteria.
So I am glad for people like you, theantifeminist, and other British men that have not fallen for the mob mentality and pedo hysteria. Obviously that also applies to every man of any nationality. The more that have not fallen for it, or haven woken up the better.
Quoting the article:”‘There was riot police out here, there were kids shouting ‘nonce, nonce’, there were people all over the field.'”
or
“Toni agreed, adding: ‘What I don’t understand is that the guy was accused of being a predator but people were bringing their kids up here? Kids were shouting nonce.”
It really looks like that young British people are growing up with what is some kind of “national sport.”
Reading further, the article mentions another incident where a man killed himself after being lured and attacked by a vigilante group. So powerful is the false application, and stigma that many men only see one outcome….suicide.
Remember when I said that a heads-on approach is prone to fail? Quoting ourselves here:
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“So trying a rational, heads-on approach to convince others is prone to fail, since they are so indoctrinated. Other methods and approaches need to be found to change people’s mind.”
Yes, you’re absolutely right there. The ‘rationalists’ are pi$$ing into the wind with their Bruce Rind studies and logical arguments. I’m not saying these things don’t have a place, but they are in effect ‘just for us’ – a way of keeping us sane.
We need to wake people up through ‘shock’ tactics, if you like. I’m not talking about violence, except violence through words – such as the ‘paedocrite’, ‘age cuck’, ‘femihag’ memes. And it has to be done right. You could argue that Eivind is employing ‘shock tactics’ when he makes naked videos of himself defending Nathan Larrson, but any ‘normie’ would just see a weird creep and wouldn’t even listen to him.”
This article just confirms it. A heads-on, rational approach is like being the Germans in 1944/45 and still trying to win the war, when they get absolutely mauled in both the west and the east.
Using that comparison, one has to act like the Viet Cong and its tactics during the Vietnam war. Our point of view is not strong enough for the general public to fight like a tradional army.
I truly believe that without the police these men would lynch many other men for their normal biological attractions. Such a peak is reached that is so emotionally driven that I wish good luck to anyone in that moment trying to calm the mob down with explaining definitions of words and citing studies.
I remember you saying that countries like Germany, Sweden and the Netherlands have overtaken Britian regarding pedo hysteria. But I have yet to see something like that in those countries. But maybe I just have missed them. At least in Germany, the aoc is 14 or 16 depending on the circumstances, so those vigilante groups would have come up with different approach, going even younger or paying.
Yes, this is definitely the worst manifestation of paedohysteria I’ve yet seen. I would advise all readers to watch the video – it truly is ‘medieval’. As I was reading the article, I assumed that the victim of the sting was an immigrant and the riot was as much race related as about paedohysteria, but he is a white British guy.
Kids chanting “nonce, nonce, nonce”. I mean seriously, do their freak parents think they are ‘protecting their innocence’ in this way? And no doubt they are real kids, probably 10 year olds and the like, not like the fictitious ’14 year old girl’ that the pedo hunters were posing as.
“Pedo hunters” – the very term is so dehumanizing it’s surprising that even a society as vicious and mental as ours can allow it. When you think of the political correctness and people getting cancelled for using words like ‘tranny’, and yet normal men who text with a non-existant girl who is only just under the age of consent, are considered animals to be hunted.
Paedophile rationalists like Eivind think that mobs like this can be reasoned with. Just show them the latest Bruce Rind study. Talk about Platonic Forms and cultural drift. Good luck with that. The only hope is to confront them, to wake them up, to scream and shout that they are ‘paedocrites’ and such like.
I’m not one of those people who find it easy or enjoyable to hate their own country. I’m still proud to be British. And Britain has an incredible history to be proud of. We came up with half the inventions on the planet. Even today, so many key figures in the development of AI such as Geoffrey Hinton and Demis Hassabis are British. Yet when I see stuff like this riot, it’s hard not to feel absolute hate.
You’re right that Germany, Sweden, the Netherlands and other places are not as bad as Britain (although the pedo-hunter stuff is very bad in the Netherlands). I really meant that they have turned even more than Britain, only because they were more liberal even than Britain in the 60’s and 70’s. For example, the Netherlands briefly reduced the age of consent to 12 in the 1980’s and was the home of ‘teen porn’. They even had a studio ‘Channel 17’ that was one of the biggest in Europe that focused on 16 and 17 year olds. The Amsterdam red-light district was the most famous in the world. And yet in the space of not much more than a decade it went from that to leading the world in pedo hunters, closing down the red-light district, and anybody who protests for a return to the liberal laws of the 80’s gets death threats.
Yes, there are a suprising number of people in Britain who are to some extent ‘resisting’. Britain might be the worst for paedohysteria but it also produces the most individuals willing to speak out. For example, in the MRA world not only myself but Angry Harry (RIP), Steve Moxon. Then media figures such as Chris Morris and Charlie Brooker, and the guy who wrote the Monkey Dust pedofinder general sketches: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBFqe_3M2Z8
Ah-ah, talking of proud to be British. I still remember how pro-British I was during the Falkland war. I really wished for the Argentines to get levelled to the ground. Now I wonder whether my choice of side was right. Of course the Argentine generals who triggered the war were nothing but incompetent thugs. On the other hand, I cannot ignore what happened to the Pitcairn people. Had Pitcairn been an Argentine Territory instead of a UK Territory, those people would have been loft alone.
Take my own country of birth: it taxes revenues at such an absurdly high rate that I can’t stay there more than a couple of months each year if I want to stay well-off. WTF.
What bag of shit needs our “own” country to have come to before we start hating it? There’s a point where we must face reality even if it feels like betraying our roots.
I would love to live in Argentina. The only thing that has stopped me moving there is the fear that life might be difficult for a Brit…I guess I could assume an Irish identity (my mother was Irish Scottish).
There’s actually a town in Argentina with a lot of Welsh heritage and pride. You’re obviously not Welsh, though I don’t think you would be too much of an outsider if you ever decide to visit there.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H9Z-m763gWc
Thanks for the video Duke. As it happens, my father was Welsh! About as Welsh as they come – when I was growing up he was still mastering the English language. I remember him telling me about Patagonia. I’ll certainly look into that!
“Britain has an incredible history to be proud of. We came up with half the inventions on the planet. Even today, so many key figures in the development of AI such as Geoffrey Hinton and Demis Hassabis are British. Yet when I see stuff like this riot, it’s hard not to feel absolute hate.”
Absolutely correct, I understand your sentiment completely.
I grew up in Great Satan USA. If all of these good things were made by men of my country just so women could fart through silk and piss on men with the help of cucks, then fuck it, burn it all down, it means nothing anymore. Just a hard fact of reality.
This is the kind of thing I was talking about when I referred to paedo hunters in the Netherlands. In 2020, a 73 year old man was beaten to death by them. I’m not sure that has happened yet even in the UK:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-54930488
Websites listing the addresses of ‘sex offenders’ were also very popular there even a decade ago.
I also recall there being an anti-paedophile riot in Portsmouth many years ago. For some reason, Portsmouth seems to be even more paedohysteric than other places in the UK.
As I mentioned, I was back in the UK last week, and as I always do, I gave every pretty teen girl I passed a smile. I hadn’t realized how bad things had gotten in Britain – it’s lucky I didn’t trigger a riot!
Now that I see the article I remember it again. You are right many countries have been infected.
You said you visited the UK last week, so I assume you live somewhere else. Would mind telling where you reside now, and how the situation is there?
Also can you describe the everyday situation for the average nobody man in the UK that would be interested in younger women of legal age. Would it even be possible for a lets say 33-year-old to date an 18-year-old? What about when she is 16 or 17 years old?
What I am trying to ask here is whether men will at least be left somewhat alone in your everyday life and not be harrassed or driven insane or suicide and whatnot as long as both parties are legal or above 18.
I think even a 33 year old man dating an 18 year old would cause at least comments and ‘bad vibes’ in restaurants and such like. Not sure it would cause him to be ‘cancelled’ or have his friends disown him and the like.
I think the last time I went on a date in London was about a decade ago when I was in my forties and it was with a beautiful young Chinese woman of about 20, and the jealous looks and comments I got were ridiculous, mostly from women though.
When I was practically living in Ukraine about 8 or 9 years ago, I was dating an 18 year old, a 19 year old, and a 25 year old. I did get a fair bit of jealousy and resentment from the locals, but it was mostly I think because I was foreign not so much because of my age. Although once when I was with the 19 year old (who was very pretty) a group of local teen boys passed us and were glaring at me and clenching their fists and such like, which was a bit scary.
“I think the last time I went on a date in London was about a decade ago when I was in my forties and it was with a beautiful young Chinese woman of about 20, and the jealous looks and comments I got were ridiculous, mostly from women though.”
The fact that it was coming mostly only from women may not be as bad as it could have been. Getting stupid looks and comments is never great, but I think the biggest danger comes from other men. As long as it just the women complaining, it is tolerable though not nice, and no one should have to endure this for dating young adult women.
Once men think or get incited by women to play the white knight, things are getting ugly really fast. That is what I mean that we as the male gender need a common ground, understanding and solidarity. As long as those (older) bitter women aren’t able to incite violence against men, and men as a group think of them as some old, jealous, hysterical creatures then it might still be tolerable.
But once men are switching sides the power shifts tremendously in women’s favor.
“As long as those (older) bitter women aren’t able to incite violence against men, and men as a group think of them as some old, jealous, hysterical creatures then it might still be tolerable.”
This is a great point. This is exactly why I ‘demonize’ these older feminists as hags. And as you say, it’s important to stress it is largely coming from the older and ugly women – the kind of women even the most pathetic simps wont want to white knight for.
As Jack pointed out recently, it’s almost impossible for men to overcome the white knighting instinct and to see women as the enemy. But remember – society used to burn witches, so it is possible, at least for a group seen as ‘hags’.
I’ve been looking at the comments underneath the City Crusher video on Epstein again. It’s really encouraging. We’ve been feeling defeatist lately about the possibilities of kickstarting a movement, but it seems one has gradually been building over at City Crusher’s channel. And now things appear to be slowly building here too.
Younger girls will gladly use pedohysteria if they find it convenient to unleash their white knights against an older man, and it is even more effective because she is pretty and not an old hag. I’ve seen it personally in my own life many times now, and publicly the last time was when that army guy got attacked by college students in Boston who were encouraged by the hot 18 year old who was pursued by the older army guy. This is why I say cucks and pedocrites are the worst, they are the lowest form of scum because these losers enable the worst abuses of feminism for a potential whiff of pussy which usually never arrives.
I’ve been having a long discussion with Grok 4 about laws on porn. It’s been really disappointing. It’s supposed to be the first AI to be able to think about moral issues independently and reason from first principles, but it’s basically starting from feminist dogmas. At least I got it to accept in the end that men should not go to prison for downloading deepfake porn pics of Taylor Swift. A small victory, lol.
I noticed Grok took the moral high ground slightly more often than ChatGPT on issues that involved breaking the law.
It did feel to me like I was debating with an extremely intelligent person with excellent reasoning skills, which is why it was disapointing to me. But you’re right, the more intelligent the AIs become, the stricter guardrails they’ll have pertaining to any discussion of the kind – “should X be legal”. The thing is, initially it was justifying even the owning of deepfake porn being illegal, but that is only illegal in a few places and certainly not in the USA.
“I’ve been looking at the comments underneath the City Crusher video on Epstein again. It’s really encouraging. We’ve been feeling defeatist lately about the possibilities of kickstarting a movement, but it seems one has gradually been building over at City Crusher’s channel. And now things appear to be slowly building here too.”
Well, let me then give you other positive “developments” (lack for a better word) to brighten the mood amidst this insanity.
First, don’t just read the comments under CityCrusher’s most recent videos. Go back a couple of months or even years ago. You will be pleased what you will read there. Many are releated to the attraction to young women.
If there is one site I found that is mostly “based” as they would say, or really in favor of being attracted to young women, which is normal, look at this:
https://incels.is/threads/16yo-girls-are-hot-anyone-who-say-they-look-too-young-either-is-blind-or-is-gay.757952/
https://incels.is/threads/power-imbalance-in-relationships-is-such-a-stupid-idea.753406/
https://incels.is/threads/age-of-consent-in-my-country-is-15.751144/
https://incels.is/threads/i-love-living-in-a-country-where-16yo-girls-are-legal.756615/
If you search for specific words via the search engine only for that site, you will find many other posts regarding these topics and from years ago. And they are mostly supportive or positive, though you have some “agecucks” here and there.
Especially look at the picture in the first link. Any man, regardless of his age, that says this young woman is not attractive is freaking lying through his teeth. This is peak youth. And for centuries and millenia you would have been normal to say that this is hot.
In another comment I will recommend some other Youtubers that have pretty big balls openly saying they are attracted to young women.
But after writing here a lot today, I need a break.
https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/exg46/krauser_pua_instadates_a_cute_17_year_old/
Here’s a nice comment from the days of old, coming from Bhodi in response to some nascent age cucks at the time:
“I’ve never met a woman in my life with the ovaries to admit that the whole deal of raging at men sleeping with younger women is just a sexist frame that women need special treatment, are victims and somehow have value stolen through sex. I’ve also never met a woman who is enlightened enough, intelligent enough, or gives enough of a shit about men to realise that the whole ‘paedophile’ argument for older men sleeping with teenagers is just social re-engineering to try and make 30-something childless aging women the only choice for 30-something childless aging men rather than the 20-something women they are quite capable of getting. If a man fucks a girl aged 15 and 364 days is he a paedophile whereas 24 hours later he’s not?”
I assume that was BodiPUA? He was one of the most honest of PUAs (if not the best PUA, lol). Last I heard he was happily married and living in Poland now.
Indeed it was! That comment was only 15 years ago.
Thanks anon69 for proving this link.
I am “positively shocked.” This was written and discussed in 2011. Look how level-headed, calm the discussion is compared to today. Some of them even defending it. And even those that don’t agree with it sound relatively calm. This discussion would not happen like this today. It would have been much more emotionally driven and everyone would have been slandered and insulted, and torture and violence would be demanded.
I think we can truly see how things have changed over the last 14 years. In one of my earlier comments I mentioned when we reached the latest stage and peak so far of the pedo/anti age-gap hysteria. It must have been around the mid to late 2010s with Trump, Me too, Epstein, and mumbo jumbo science regarding brain development.
Even from my personal experience, though I am on the younger side, the late 2000s and early 2010s were definitely not as crazy or hysterical than they are now.
Not many British PUAs had any hangups about approaching 16 year old girls back in those days. This was very different to American PUAs who would put on the virtue signalling paedocrite act and often criticize guys like Krauser and Tom Torero. ‘John Anthony Marshall’ still does this (I’m sure they all do, but he’s the only one I still occasinally watch).
Around this time, I was in Budapest and I saw a very well-known American PUA with his buddies just hanging around one of the main squares. They were actually standing at one of the entrances, in order to stop every young female who entered the square. And I do mean young. They were hitting on girls who were certainly no older than 14 or 15, and not only trying to get their numbers, but kissing them – whether they got their numbers or not.
As far as the Brit PUAs are concerned, it all changed after this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTh4s_tlrHA
That documentary probably led to the suicides of both Johnny Berba and Tom Torero.
The incel forums are definitely one of the few places were men are waking up. As I’ve been saying here for years, paraphrasing George Orwell – “if there is hope, it lies in the incels”.
Just when we thought we’d seen everything:
https://news.yahoo.com/news/gis-le-pelicot-receives-frances-234123288.html
France’s highest honour awarded. For getting gangbanged as a granny while high on benzos. What a madhouse the West has become.
As I was commenting on this riot article yesterday, I had to think about the British monarchy for a reason, and thought there is some interesting history pertaining these topics.
So I looked up that the current British King Charles III and how and when he got together with Diana. If Wikipedia as a source is true, he met her when she was 16 while he was 29, and dating her older sister. Only then to date her and propse to her when she was 18 or 19.
We could argue that she was at least 16 (aoc in the UK) when he met her, and at least 18 when he dated and proposed to her. Now, I think nobody here needs convincing that he was already attracted to her when she was 16.
Like many times before so far I ask again. Can you imagine an average/nobody men or even a celebrity meeting a 16-year-old while dating the older sister, only to dump her to date the younger one in today’s age? If those cretins/age cucks would apply the same standards they would slander and insult their whole “beloved” monarchy.
Side note: Since I am not British, I am not sure how popular the monarchy in Britain was/is right now. British men, chime in if you like to.
With all the age gap/pedo hysteria, there seems to be no uproar, and riots that such a man was able to become king. Again maybe I am mistaken, but from my non-British perspective I have not heard anything regarding that.
If you apply modern’s definition of all these bad words, they would have to call the British King a nonce/groomer/predator.
Food for thought: I wonder if his sons had been able to pull something off like him.
Ironically, Harry went into the opposite direction, marrying an older woman than him that was divorced. He certainly followed the rules of the Zeitgeist.
The TV presenter Greg Wallace, who was accused of sexual misconduct and defended himself by saying his accusers where ‘women of a certain age’ has lost his case and has been sacked by the BBC.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14904001/Gregg-Wallace-apologises-45-upheld-complaints-bbc-behaviour-colleagues-set-probe-incidents-set.html
I wish he would now go all-in with the ‘certain age’ comments, start calling out the jealous hags. He has nothing to lose now. It was obvious how much that comment hurt them. Eivind talks about ‘drawing blood with every word (words about Platonic Forms or first person realism), but it’s the hag shaming that draws blood – and just about the only thing that does get to them.
The guy who replaced Greg Wallace as presenter of ‘MasterChef’ has himself already been sacked – for allegedly using a racist term, lol.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8j1vzngdjpo
Another great video from City Crusher: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAqfirYlwb4
A couple of interesting points worth noting from it. Firstly, the core men’s rights idea that patriarchy was always a myth, and that women have always had the power. Eivind said not long ago that we can’t hold women responsible for sex laws because they only make up 50% of the population. I mean seriously, he can say such retarded things sometimes. Either he’s completely forgotton his ‘roots’ as a supposed MRA, or he was posing as one all along.
Secondly, City Crusher notes that the author of ‘The Manipulated Man’ (Esther Vilar) would have been mocked as a loser and an incel if she had been a man. This is similar to arguing about sex laws, particularly anything to do with ‘minors’ – you not only get mocked as an incel, you get accused of being a pedo. And these things generally do not apply to the rare women who speak out.
Esther Vilar was beaten black and blue by fems in the toilet of Munich’s Municipal Library, upon which she emigrated to Argentina.
However it is true that other books written by men were largerly ignored. For instance I remember this book entitled “Female Power” by one André Pérot in 1978:
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k33542686.texteImage
The author was invited to a TV book discussion. He was insulted and ridiculed by the women authors present. The books written by these wome were insignificant novels.
That’s certainly true Jack, she definitely paid a price for speaking out. I still haven’t read her book – I think I have it somewhere.
Thanks for the Andre Perot book link – that look’s interesting.
Bit of an older article I have here, but Sweden is definitely no stranger to paedohysteria.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-18430725.amp
A Swedish translator of Japanese-style manga comics has been cleared of child pornography charges in a case that has sparked debate about whether cartoon characters can be considered people.
He was lucky enough to have the charges dropped on him, but this definitely signals a strong chilling effect in my eyes. It’s not just about the real children they’re concerned and anxious about, but also the fake, imaginary, and “childlike” ones that don’t align with real-world proportions, human characteristics, or consistent ages. We must protect somehow protect every kind of “child” even they don’t exist, and are CGI or AI-generated. This is much like Australia’s ban on “small breasts” in porn, because if someone looks young and petite, they must literally be a child.
https://theweek.com/articles/497091/australias-small-breast-ban
https://www.bubbleblabber.com/2014/08/uk-man-facing-jail-time-pornographic-simpsons-king-hill-images/?amp=1
I believe the UK is another country that wants to throw the book on people for possessing images of cartoon-drawn child porn. It doesn’t matter if anyone can Google and find these images in mere minutes, the UK is the same country that sends people to jail for their Facebook posts, so this doesn’t surprise me one bit. I could’ve imagine a country with sex laws so backwards and asinine than what we have here in the states. The UK is truly something and I’m sorry you live in a country where the government has gone to total shit.
I don’t know what your thoughts are in terms of the legality of child porn, but this is so fucked up. Should we also throw people in jail for enjoying movies with high, gruesome body counts? They really want to catch the lowest hanging fruit as much as possible, huh?
Yeah, Sweden has been feminazi for a long time now. It was the most liberal in the world for a time in the 70’s though. They even pretty much legalized child porn: https://boap.uib.no/index.php/BJCLCJ/article/view/4039
Putting people in prison for owning (or looking at!) pictures of women with small breasts. I mean how can men not rise up against this?!
I think half-of-it is that the government/police want total power over the population. How many guys wont have a few pics of a model with ‘small breasts’ in their porn stash? It serves the same function as cannabis laws (or did) – if they don’t have enough evidence to arrest somebody for a crime, they can get them for something stupid like that.
I haven’t lived in the UK for a long time, thankfully. I think recently they were talking about ‘closing a loophole’ which allowed men to read stories about schoolgirl sex without being put on the sex offender’s register.
Pig wagon runs over anti-paedophile/migrant protestor, lol.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14917825/Moment-police-van-hits-anti-migrant-protest-epping-essex.html
Here is a Sky News Australia report on that riot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Leei8MHLss
There is obviously a very clear relationship between the migrant crisis/Islamification and paedohysteria.
You just have to observe how little paedohysteria there is in Eastern Europe as compared to Western Europe.
One reason is likely that the white working classes in Western Europe, who are being replaced by the elites with Third World labor, are using paedohysteria as a sort of deflected hate. They get cancelled or locked up if they protest about Third World migrants, so ‘paedophiles’ serve as a kind of substitute. And when a migrant commits a sex crime, it all comes together and the rage is too much.
Secondly, as I’ve suggested here in the past, Third World immigrants – most of them horny young males from sexually conservative societies, and who often become incels in their new country – will commit more real sex crimes than the natives. This gives feminists an opportunity to push for more anti-male sex laws, whilst pretending it is a problem with men in general.
What infuriates me is that it seems to have occurred to no one but me that migrants/refugees from migrant donor countries are all geezers. When Merkel decided to invite 5 million Syrians into Germany it was 5 million men she was inviting. Those men had to be granted asylum to protect them from the war but there was nothing wrong with their sisters, wives and daughters remaining under the bombs.
I remember one proud gay German guy showing the whole World on Youtube how generous and unracist he was by allowing 5 Syrian young men to stay in his home for free. The sheer hypocrisy! Imagine a man giving a home to 5 young female refugees (had any been available): the police would have been on the scene even before any of the female refugees showed up.
Yeah, a lot of it is liberal white gays wanting to fuck young Arab men, and liberal white women wanting to fuck big black cock, lol.
I can’t imagine the horrors of the civil wars that lie ahead of us, and how many thousands or even millions will die in them. The UK will almost certainly be the first, although France and Germany wont be far behind.
Theantifeminist and others,
I have a real treat for you, at least I think I do. I already announced that I wanted to share some interesting Youtube channels that at least in some ways support our point of view. Let me talk about one.
There’s this Youtuber called “maxxed extreme.” He had other channels by the name of “whore maxxer” or “street maxxer.” He lost many channels over the years, but he still continues with his most recent channel “maxxed extreme.” He is quite an interesting character, and you may not agree with everything he says, but regarding the attraction to young post-pubescent women you will probably agree with him, and you will feel glad that someone with his face and name out has the courage to express what many men think, but are afraid of to admit.
I mentioned in my last replies how I remember now how exactly I have found you. Watch the following video, starting at around 30:00 minutes until around 56:25. It is important to note and highlight that this is a reaction to the original video I wanted to link, but it is no longer available. If you watch the video, you will automatically figure out who I am talking about who whoremaxxer/maxxed extreme/street maxxer is. In the original that no longer exist, Eivind commented on the orignal video (no longer available), called the the guy “speakeazy” an agecuck. That’s how I found his blog via his Youtube channel, and subsequently yours, theantifeminist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCzRl77Rf7E&t=1823s
Coincedental, maxxed extreme (whoremaxxer/streetmaxxer) just streamed called “Into the madness”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HczS-HOaXmI
It is not the first time he talked about it, but it just fits since I have been commenting here.
You will like it. In that regard he tells the truth, what we all think. I haven’t watched the full stream yet, but definetely check out the first hour of that stream, especially around 0:40/:045 to the one hour mark.
You know, what I find extremely irritating about modern society? That these pro-paedohysteria folks constantly virtue signal about the morality of legality (and conflate the two) to feel some sort of toxic morality superiority when putting others down when they don’t agree with the age of consent being 18. It’s the whole, well “if it’s illegal, then it must be morally wrong” type of shit. They get all obsequious about it, kissing society’s ass, but if there were 20 or so years ago, they would be more on the fence when it comes to these topics. Age of consent debates are impossible without getting hatepiled on, because apparently “you cannot sexualize minors” because they are all “innocent” based on what the government wants you to abide by. People like Penguinz0/MoistCr1TiKaL (Charlie) proudly proclaim “I think the age of consent should be 18”, while acting all smug about it fits this sort of “toxic moralism mindset”, as I like to coin it.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LypO22RlnSA&feature=youtu.be
CityCrusher made a video where he gave commentary on TomDark’s analysis of the Sneak v. MoistCr1TiKaL debate on the age debate. Mind you, Sneako is terrible at debating, but Trevor Cormier (CityCrusher) basically calls bullshit on the video, saying that these men would gladly have sex with teen girls if they could away with it, or if the societal norms weren’t strict and penalizing.
Fuck it, underage teen girls can consent. Period. No more of this brown-nosing bullshit. That’s my statement.
Hi Duke,
In your previous reply, you said you are a registered Republican. Given that, I have to say that I am positively surprised. I am glad that someone like you (Republican) see through all the hysteria. From my encounters/perceptions, the majority of Republicans are very quick to denounce someone as a “pedophile/groomer/predator,” and demand the “woodchipper.”
Good for pointing out CityCrusher. Many of this side probably know who he is, but it is alwas good to mention good posts/thread/blogs/channels.
I was randomly in a pawn shop in a terrible maga state, and a young man and older man started psychotically talking about killing pedophiles (men who like post-pubescent teen girls to them) while holding guns they were thinking about purchasing. There was also a smug 20 year old girl walking around while these guys were talking. The right wingers are cucked to the extreme, ready to denounce and kill their fellow man for a whiff of sub-par pussy from one of their right wing wh0res. It is pathetically disgusting. Don’t forget, they also have an extreme ban on pornography and prostitution (human trafficking hoax), so they are very much hurting for decent pussy. If they were just posturing, that would be different, but these cretins follow through more often, especially with the urging of their out of control women. The right wing is just the violent feminist version of the left wing now.
That’s another reason why NoFap and porn bans are not a thing we should promote. Aside from everything else, they increase female sexual power over men, and most of us can see that that is a huge part of the problem.
Though it shouldn’t surprise us if those two cucked MAGA paedocrites went home and raped their preteen daugthers or sisters.
Don’t why the internet became so obsessed with challenges like No Nut November. It started in February, and it was originally a joke on some Internet forum back in 2011. Now, the whole anti-porn movement is a joke. That’s the side of the MRM that I don’t like and avoid at all costs. I think you can agree with me AF, that’s not MRAs are the same and are not really “true” MRAs.
Funny how NoFap allows for female sexual power over men (like you said), when they themselves claim that abstaining from masturbation makes them more “manly” and helps them stay “strong”. Isn’t that ironic?
Eivind thinks NoFap has boosted his testosterone and sexual energies. All it’s done it seems is cause him to lose the ability to discern real beauty in females, so he sees fat middle-aged whales as HB9s, whilst giving him the need to white knight even for an ugly female sex offender who publicly called for all paedophiles to be tortured to death.
“whilst giving him the need to white knight even for an ugly female sex offender who publicly called for all paedophiles to be tortured to death.”
And which chick is that?
I can’t remember the name of the bitch. It was a few blog posts ago. She had been very vociferous on social media about ‘paedophiles’, stating they should be tortured and killed. Then she was caught banging an underage boy – a rare example of a female paedocrite.
When Eivind claims that he believes women aren’t responsible for anti-sex laws, what he really means is that he just doesn’t care. He’s incapable of holding women responsible or from refraining from white knighting for them.
How did you find out? Did you go through her socials or something?
I think it must have been highlighted in the news reports of her case. It might have been Jack or Anon69 who posted the story in his comments section.
Haha, ‘maxxed extreme’ definitely seems to be non-age cucked. We should cannonize Epstein as our ‘saint’, like how the incels have done the same for Elliot Rodgers.
Can any of you give me the story behind ‘Mr Girl’? I came across him via a comment (I think Anon69’s) at Eivind’s blog. It’s as though Tom Grauer could rap, lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqeE1zMCyrI
Mr. Girl unfortunately turned out to be a MAP type of person, a Jewish man who created controversial videos for attention which seemed promising, but ended up being sympathy-seeking for his “pedophilic” urges, one of these self-described virtuous non-contact “pedophiles” who isn’t even a pedophile. So, he just carries the feminist slander that under 18 is pedophilia and apologizes for his feelings, basically. What a dud!
That’s disappointing anon69. You’d think somebody willing to court controversy like that would be able to stand his ground a little more.
Maybe he was looking to black American rappers as a model with the way they can use the N word, lol. Shame he forgot that even they absolutely and aggressively reject the label when applied by white people.
That’s a good point. Sort of like if we called each other pedos lightheartedly, it would be quite different coming from a feminist or a pedocrite.
It appears he’s now making a documentary accusing a teacher at his old school of sexually abusing students.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DD0qVeUy1Dj/?hl=en
It’s looking increasingly likely that MAGA’s obsession with Epstein might bring down their messiah Trump: https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c75ry4vy159t
Whatever you feel about MAGA supporters in general, I honestly do believe Trump is a decent guy with integrity, and that he’s itching to be able to say – “yeah, I fucked some teen hotties with Epstein – so fucking what , losers?”
Referencing once more “maxxed extreme.” Watch the stream if you haven’t: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HczS-HOaXmI
We are on the same page. Like you, I just don’t get this whole obsession with Epstein, and the that he fucked some younger women (saying younger women on purpose). Something is really wrong with our species or gender. Despite all this, all my comments and information was to provide that it wasn’t always like this, and there are people that see through the bullshit.
What do you mean Steve? Clearly, the Epstein women were victims of heinous child sexual abuse as teenagers when they were flown to private islands for free to chill in luxury and paid thousands of dollars to have sex with literal princes and celebrities, smiling in all photos.
They weren’t living the dream of every amateur and professional prostitute (woman) on the planet, they were victims of human trafficking rape, and their childhood innocence was stolen by demons (according to Tucker Carlson). Whereas their innocence would have been heavenly, safe, and morally intact if these women instead gave awkward handjobs to poor high school boys with acne in exchange for some drugs or cigarettes. I believe that is actually in the Bible if I’m not mistaken.
The antifeminist and others,
Give me your opinions on these stories/incidents in the UK.
Charles Veitch gets insulted and slandered a pedophile in public while being out with his younger girlfriend. Results in a physical fight.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14611831/father-shopping-daughter-attacked-Youtuber-calling-paedophile.html
Next incident begins at 39:31. He is publicly getting called out for being with a “minor.”
https://youtu.be/NkJA2_vu96M?t=2371
Look what those “innocent/little minor girls” can do: Old enough to beat someone to death, but to young to know what a penis and sex with adult men is for the majority of society.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14806163/Shocking-moment-girls-beat-man-death.html
P.S. Theantifeminist, I don’t know if you have noticed, but once you are replying to many times directly to another reply instead of to the original blog post, it will ruin the formatting, and I can’t read any longer what you and others have written.
Thanks for the links Steve. As it happens I posted both of them recently either here or at Eivind’s blog.
Charlie Veitch is interesting in that he dated a 16 year old in his 30s (some say the started dating earlier) and clearly likes teen girls, and yet he has hundreds of thousands of mainly right-wing followers. Before he started filming crackies, his YouTube channel was mainly about his ‘Love Police’ project. Here he is 15 years ago in Eivind’s home town: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9dZV5m5eCo
Those teen bitches are evil. There seems to be a rise in young female violence in the UK, particularly against older men. And then they typically make up a lie about him being a ‘pedo’ to try to get off with it.
Yes, I’ve noticed the threaded comments look messy when there are a lot of replies to replies. I’ll take a look at the settings. Perhaps it’s best just to ‘leave a comment’ and put (for example) @Jack to let the person know you are replying to them. The reason I reply directly to a comment is because I’m reading the comments in the moderation queue, and then reply to them.
Miley Cyrus fans ‘horrified’ at interview asking her about sex when she was 14. I’d forgotten how cute she used to look, lol.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-14915623/miley-cyrus-fans-horrified-resurfaced-interviews-reporters-sex-pregnancy.html
Imagine being a billionaire CEO and the height of your sexual prowess is cheating on your wife with an even older woman. I wonder if this is the ‘Epstein effect’?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/35927269/andy-byron-coldplay-cheating-scandal-tech-ceo-resignation/
Yes, that was the first thing I thought about when I saw this controversy. Imagine working hard in life, and that is your “prize”? Talk about a pervert and a spineless simp. With shit like that happening, it’s no surprise that women really believe their pussy is worth billions.
I just watch a video regarding Epstein, and am quite positively suprised at the comments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7JQZPQtJh8
Look at some of the most upvoted comments:
“A lot of boomers would be in jail if they lived today”
“How many of these Boomers snd Gen Xers were dating 15 year olds when they were 25?” I brought up this exact same question to a self-righteous Gen X dude on Facebook a while ago who was ranting about how disgusted he was at Jerry Seinfeld for dating a teenager in the 90s… he then got very defensive and butthurt when I pointed out all of his favorite bands from the 80s like Van Halen and Winger explicitly wrote songs like Hot For Teacher and Seventeen lol”
Funny how someone else mentioned the band Winger and their song seventeen, since I just mentioned it here a couple of days ago.
I am a member of a South East Asia forum. Of late the forum has had threads about Trump & Epstein. I’ve posted some dissenting comments in the spirit of this site and Eivind’s. My comments have been either ignored (because they don’t focus on what everybody sees as the main topic namely Trump and not what Epstein did or didn’t do wrong) or voted down. I have been insulted and called “sick” on a few occasions. By men. No STU directly at work here. Men. To make things worse: men who live in South East Asia because that’s where they can get laid. Men. Idiots.
Jealous, effeminate cucks.
Last week at an event, I talked to two beautiful european high school girls that would have enraged feminists and Epstein cucks. One, my interest, was completely eating it up and engaging, the other was ugly and jealous, and had a horrible attitude when I attempted to include her in the conversation. Finally, when I asked for the number of the hot one, she obliged, but then, the jealous hag within the friend flew out of her body, and she began to shame me for being interested in “minors”. By the way, this is the first time this has happened in all my years of talking to young women, so the problem is getting worse, but I think we all knew that.
Anyway, without flinching, I asked why she was so jealous if her friend was happy? This enraged her, and she pulled the hot friend away while the hot friend still looked back and smiled at me. Feminism is just another tool for jealous women (and cucks) of all ages to use against men, and it’s very sad to see younger generations making themselves ugly and deranged by embracing it, considering life is so short. There is nothing I know of that damages young people more than embracing feminism, the truth is literally the exact opposite of what feminists claim. Feminists and cucks are evil to the core.
@Anon69 – I’ve encountered this my entire life (or at least since I grew the balls to approach the opposite sex about 30 years ago), whatever their ages. I must have approached female ‘pairs’ at least 100 times, and I’d say probably 95% of times the ‘friend’ tries to block me, no matter how keen the other is to chat with me.
And it’s not even dependent on whether the ‘friend’ is less attractive.
What escapes me is how females don’t seem to understand that their ‘friend’ is simply jealous. Or why they don’t come to learn that all females are insanely jealous of every other female, even their ‘besties’, or even their own mothers. I mean, surely even a teenage girl can recognize that when femihags are telling them they need to be protected, they are simply expressing their jealousy?
I’ve had countless opportunities wrecked because of the jealous blocking of ‘besties’. This includes my ‘oneitis’ that I was dating in the Ukraine (a really pretty and geeky 19 year old girl).
And yes, Jack is right that men can be jealous bitches too. I don’t think that men are generally ‘jealous’ to the degree women can be though. For example, if at a party two guys are together and a hot girl starts hitting on one, the other guy wont tend to instantly try to block her. He’ll high five his friend if he does get lucky.
I think in men, it’s to a large extent the ‘cheater detection mode’ applied to sex. Men are hardwired to hunt out ‘cheaters’ who are breaking the socially agreed rules to take more than their fair share of resources. This applies to sex too. Feminists (and women in general) manipulate this and in today’s world they have a completely free hand to set the sexual rules, such as laws on prostitution or the age of consent. And when men see other men even talking about ‘unjust sexual rules’ their cheater detection mode goes into overdrive. Of course, men still follow this instinct whent they are secretly trying to ‘break the rules’ themselves, which makes paedocrisy so easy.
Not excusing men, but their behaviour in my opinion is generally not so ‘red in tooth and claw’ primitive sexual jealousy that is involved in the same female blocking behaviour. In other words, as I’ve often said here, if women said – ” banging teens is fine, having sex with 18 year old prostitutes is great” then the majority of men wouldn’t be bothered with other men doing those things.
I remember Eivind making the silly argument that sexual trade union theory is false because if it was true, then we would always have seen feminism – for example, in times of relative sexual freedom for men. Well let’s flip that around. If men are as keen as women to restrict the sexual freedoms of other men, then we would NEVER have had any periods of relative male sexual freedom, and always had high ages of consent, bans on prostution and porn and so on.
All we know is that from day one of feminism (the suffragettes) for the first time in human history society said that sex with teens under a certain age was wrong. All we know is that under modern feminism, society has NEVER been as sexually restrictive for men as it is today. Whenever women have had political power over men, they have restricted male sexual freedoms.
Absolutely and completely true, everything you’ve said. It used to be the fat warpigs that would gatekeep their hot, flirty friends. Now it seems the job has been taken up by plain Jane Doe’s ready to cite hateful feminist consent theory to any man who dares to have the hot friend break the sexual picket lines – that detail was new to my experience.
I know the flirty girls know this without a doubt, and like keeping the jealous friend/parent around because it’s another shit test a man must pass, which increases the asking price of her pussy and stops her from feeling “easy”. Feminism is always a society wide shit test (Heartiste).
What’s surprised me most about reading guys like Bax on your recommendation is realizing that Socialism is far more pro-male than Capitalism; again the modern political parties have it completely backwards. Men cutting each others’ throats to get resources for women is incredibly misandrist and anti-social compared to men organizing with the purpose of making sure everyone is sexually satisfied and living well. Men like to quibble with the details and say oh it’s wrong to eliminate competition, but obviously you don’t have to eliminate all competition in a Socialist system. Of course when you give women political power in such a system, they will direct their misguided efforts into making sure only women live well, but the main point still stands.
More on the anti-migrant protests at Epping in England. At the 2:36 mark in this YouTube Sky News report, the police are escorting some migrants back to their hostel, and the crowd are all shouting ‘pedo..pedo..pedo’.
https://youtu.be/uoloMNecAJs?si=bkAAJMaEKsNtrHxn&t=176
The cucked right in the Anglosphere is so pathetic it hurts to even listen to them for one second. Note the protesting women in the news report say that women are united across the left and right in generating pedohysteria. All Anglo political parties are effeminate and misandrist dumps after MeToo.
At least Trump is going with the line that conservatives are doing the work of the democrats by repeating the Epstein accusations, and the graffiti in that news report is located in democrat cities. Of course, that belief would be true ten years ago, before conservatives fully embraced MeToo, but perhaps his statements will wake up a few cucks.
Graffiti springing up across American towns declaring Tump as a paedophile:
https://x.com/krassenstein/status/1947047885591503052
I hope this gets out of hand until we get a political crisis, because if there’s one “pedophile” in this World who can defend himself, unlike 99% of accused pedophiles, it’s Trump. I don’t wish Trump any evil but I want to see the pedohysteria bubble burst.
Absolutely Jack. Say what you like about Trump’s politics, but he’s a fighter, and he’s the most powerful man in the world with it. And because he’s so loved by millions of his supporters, who are typically as paedohysteric as they come, then a good percentage of them will find themselves defending him and even whatever it transpires he might have ‘done’ with Epstein.
BTW, regarding the threaded comments being squeezed at the side of the screen after several ‘replies to replies’ that Steve brought to my attention earlier – it doesn’t seem to be a problem when viewing the site on phones, only on laptops (and I presume a monitor).
@theantifeminist
So I checked with different devices and different views:
– Monitor/desktop/computer: Comments will get squeezed so much that you no longer can read them
– Tablet: In horizontal position, same effect as monitor/desktop/computer. Vertical position, a bit better. I still can read them, only just. Comments get squeezed to one word per row.
Thanks Steve for testing it on the different devices. The only option in WordPress is to switch off threaded comments, or set a maximum, such as 5. It looks on my laptop that it get’s hard to read after 5 threaded comments.
I changed the settings to limit the threaded replies to 5 and it seems to have fixed the problem. Let me know if it has on your devices.
Great work. Much better user experience as one would say. Both on PC and tablet.
Thanks Steve, that’s great it’s fixed.
@AF, do you believe that most prostitutes are broken, financially-inept, drug-addicted individuals, or is that just a media stereotype perpetuated by our perception of hookers?
Definitely not. Of course, it can vary among countries or even cities, and whether they are street hookers or high-end ‘escorts’, but for most it’s simply a rational way of taking financial advantage of their biggest asset in the labor market.
I remember reading at least one survey that took a look at sex workers in London and a clear majority stated they were happy in their ‘job’.
It seems to be different for pornstars, who are dying due to drug overdoses at an alarming rate. But they are clearly a seperate class of ‘sex worker’.
The media stereotype probably comes from the Sexual Trade Union who have always seen them as “fallen women”, now dressed up in the language of victimization.
In fact, let’s rephrase that: “do you believe that most women are broken, financially-inept, drug-addicted individuals, or is that just a media stereotype perpetuated by our perception of women?”
You see, all women are the same, hookers get a bad rap because they sell pussy for what it’s worth (Doug Stanhope).
I’ve noticed lately that young women have a hard time even making small talk. They have less social skill than ever seen before in my years, and indeed perhaps in human history. They are also quick to identify as lesbians (man haters). It’s no surprise, considering the constant, overarching message to them from all political parties and social media is to hate men.
And what do the women who have noticed the problem have to say about this? Well, their answer to the sex freeze is a confused, garbled up word mash that ignores the impact of extreme feminism they have perpetuated themselves. A woman is like a cat trying to fight its way out of a paper bag stuck on its head. Meanwhile, cucks go around and say watch out for the men trying to remove the paper bag.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/30/young-people-arent-having-sex-any-more/
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2025/06/30/the-case-against-the-sexual-revolution-louise-perry-book-review-the-second-coming-carter-sherman
https://www.npr.org/2025/06/28/nx-s1-5390538/why-are-younger-americans-having-less-sex-technology-could-be-playing-a-role
I love that Doug Stanhope quote – never came across it before. And thanks for the links, I’ll enjoy reading all of them this morning.
This generation of young women and girls are certainly worse even than the previous one of 10 years or so ago. They’ve been brought up to absolutely despise men, and especially older men. And of course, filled with paedohysteria since the moment they were born.
I’ve been trying to get back into PUA, because really it’s the only realistic way I’m going to get a girlfriend or any action whatsoever, but my recent attempts have been absolutely brutal. Last week I stopped a really nice, geeky looking girl in the center of town, my ‘dream’ type (she actually looked like my oneitis from Kyiv) and asked her if she knew where x was. She told me she was walking in the same direction, so I could walk with her. So I tried making conversation, but she was surly, and despite as it happens working as a tourist guide for the summer (she was at university), her English was poor. Anyway, we got to ‘x’ and she just said “here we are, so…bye”. I realized it was a longshot given the awkwardness of our conversation, but I told her she was beautiful and asked if I could add her on Facebook, to which she literally shouted at me angrily – “Thanks, bye!”
Now, leaving aside whether by ‘PUA’ standards I’m being a ‘pussy’, I’m trying to build my confidence to get used to approaching again, but something like that puts me back, to say the least. Why couldn’t she have just smiled and said – “thanks, but I have a boyfriend”? I mean she’s having to work every day in the summer in a job she clearly hates just to pay her university fees, and she meets a fairly wealthy single guy living in the same city, and the idea of just letting him add her on Facebook, just even as one of her ‘beta orbiters’ she might have need of one day, is so disgusting to her she reacts in a rage.
Just before Christmas last year I was in a bookshop in the UK, and a woman even older than myself came over clutching a handful of books and asked me if I thought her nephew would be interested in them (as a Christmas present). I gave her my opinion and joked about one of the books (it was a biography of Putin) and then walked away. She looked absolutely crest fallen. It was obvious she was lonely and she had ‘approached me’, and she felt rejected. Now if I was a woman and she had been a man, I would think I’d just been harassed, and maybe even complained to the manager, or went home and told everybody on TikTok that some old fuck had hit on me in a bookshop. If I was a woman, I probably wouldn’t have cared if they had gone home and committed suicide. But because I’m a man, I actually felt bad for the rest of the evening, thinking it probably had taken her a lot of courage to try to start a conversation and then to think I had rejected her.
Women have been trained to fear everything in the last 10 years, so what took 100 approaches before is going to take 200 or more now. I discussed this with AI last week, and it not only acknowledged this, but also recommended trying different locations outside the West. Opening with small talk is always a good idea, nice job! Every time we say some words to a woman, we get to turn over the stone to see if there’s interest.
I remember in Roosh’s last book Game, he mentioned that he didn’t even bother with Daygame anymore because women weren’t responding unless they gave him a clear IOI. First of all, I can only imagine how awesome daygame was more than 10 years ago. Secondly, I also see why he decided to abruptly end his work and turn fully to religion. Clearly, it wasn’t working anymore for him, and that was almost 10 years ago. But I will never stop talking to girls because it’s a thrill. I will resist the “Demolition Man” restricted world until the end.
Thanks Anon69. Yeah, things have definitely changed since the golden age of the mid 2010’s. I think you have the right attitude. I’m trying to tell myself that it doesn’t actually matter whether I get rejected or I get a lead or whatever, because it’s really just an act of defiance approaching a hot female in today’s world, and that’s an end in itself. A variation of Johnny Berba’s “Enjoy the process” mentality!
I actually called a hag a hag yesterday. I was just walking past two hot chicks and glanced at them admiringly and a hag happened to be coming my way and had seen me. The nasty glare she gave me! They looked at least 17 or 18 too. She really looked like a stereotypical feminist hag. I just gave her a foul look back and called her a hag, lol. I walked on and then glanced back and saw that the two girls were smiling, haha.
Fury of the mothers: https://x.com/GSGB01/status/1948441199053844903
All of the mothers in this group are around 48 years old and most likely with teenage daughters, aka the mothers are right at the age where they really fall off the cliff physically, very post-wall but now unable to hide it anymore. The majority of their male partners will be around the same age, and these women are told by the news that the immigrants are middle aged men who prefer teenage girls. See the reality yet?
The mothers look at their attractive and sexual teenage daughters, then have a nightmare that their male partners will look at their crumbling 48 year old bodies and leave them in favor of other attractive and sexual teenage girls, which the mothers fear will be legal if society adopts the immigrants’ preference for teenage girls.
So, the mothers freak out about their nightmare and virtue signal loudly, pretending they are “protecting their children” (to take advantage of cucks’ protective instincts and get them on board with the feminine pedohysteria), when really all the mothers are doing is protecting their sexual interests by using their teenage daughters as a tool for controlling their male partners.
Ask one of these mothers if more laws should be passed protecting teenage daughters from the bad decisions of their mothers, and see if the mothers still agree. Hypocrite feminine hysteria and misandry.
Going back to the Youtuber maxxed extreme (whoremaxxer/streetmaxxer). I wanted to write this when I linked him the first time, but forgot about this since I have had written so many comments.
Apart from him having the courage to proclaim that he likes younger women, and says that 15-, 16- and 17-year olds aren’t children, he still has a consistent following. If you follow him and his back story more thoroughly and consistently, people tried and still do paint him as a pedophile that needs to be locked up and worse.
He is still there, and it isn’t just men that follow him, he even has has women that follow him in his chat or even join him live and donate. Given that many encounters are drama-filled, but put it in perspective. He openly proclaims on video with his full name, even address out, that he doesn’t just likes younger women, but sees no problem with 16- and 17-year-olds. I think that’s fascinating. He even met up with a 21/22-year-old. Even though he didn’t do anything with her seuxally, but still.
It’s good to see a bodybuilder type saying these things. His physique alone will make it more likely that both men and women will sit up and at least listen to him (as opposed to somebody like Eivind, who instantly gets dismissed as the ‘stereotype’).
That’s the reason I am so “persistent” with this guy and my other comments. Usually, he would be done. The fact he still is online after all these years unharmed, still has a following with even some women! is astounding, given the anti-male/anti-age-gap/pedo hysteria.
You lamented (not blaming you) in previous comments that you feel there is no one out there (anymore). That’s why I started commenting and tried provide many examples that we are not the crazy ones. Again, we are not strong enough for a traditional army, but if you keep looking, you will find here and there some supportive voices.
I finally got around to checking this guy out and getting around the Youtube age restrictions, and he is fucking awesome.
Thanks for the share, great new podcasts to throw on.
“I’m not interested in living vicariously through reports about Epstein island, I want to do it.”
The actor Pedro Pascal is getting the MeToo treatment on social media. I’d never heard of him. He does appear to be a bit of a creep though. No doubt he’s a male feminist.
https://x.com/kirawontmiss/status/1948201391010574787
How awesome it would be if Trump pardoned Ghislaine Maxwell!
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-says-hasnt-considered-pardoning-ghislaine-maxwell-allowed-rcna221080
Paedocrite pigs are everywhere: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/ex-cop-faces-15-charges-over-sex-offences-involving-at-least-6-boys-allegedly-made-child-porn
How would you assess the most current development with Epstein and Trump?
Could it be good thing that if he had actually “participated” that the most powerful man on earth in the end is just a normal red-blooded man that likes young women? Or could it fuel the pedo hysteria even more? But then, it already is in overdrive, and you already have these horrendous and draconian laws.
Definately. I’m with Jack in that I don’t wish Trump to come to any harm, but at the same time, him having to face the paedohysteric wrath of the public and of the legal system might be something that could change things for the better. I remember reading that one of the reasons that homosexuals became acceptable was the sheer number of celebrities being obviously gay. It was less easy to dehumanize homosexuals as ‘the other’.
Trump is loved by millions. Although it’s easy for Democrats to demonize him, it’s more difficult for the MAGA crowd who have worshipped him as the Second Coming for years.
And also I remember reading that one of reasons why the witch trials ended was when important and powerful people began getting accused, and Trump is the most important and powerful man in the world.
Trump certainly did something incredible here when he cut the international “human trafficking” hoax office of the US State Department. That is literally directly connected to funding and supporting the NGO scam we’ve been talking about.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/07/human-trafficking-state-department-jeffrey-epstein/
“This included closing or eviscerating entire offices that promote democracy, combat genocide and violent extremism, help resolve armed conflicts, and supported women’s rights. Among them was the Office to Monitor and Combat Trafficking in Persons, known as the TIP Office.”
Eivind claiming that Trump is a coward for not pardoning Maxwell. If Trump had the same complete lack of social intelligence as Eivind, he would be unknown and on welfare with only his cat for company too.
I have restored another old article. I think I mentioned it here recently.
https://theantifeminist.com/mras-age-of-consent-black-civil-rights-interracial-sex-laws/
Sales of VPNs have gone up 1,800% in the UK since Friday, when the age verification laws came into place.
No doubt feminists will be screaming for VPNs to be banned next.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn72ydj70g5o
What’s this even for? To childproof the entire internet? To prevent 17 year olds and under from coming across an image of a clit? Didn’t former prime minister David Cameron attempt to implement a similar system by default back in late 2013?
Like all the age verification laws coming into force, it’s about closing down the porn industry basically. In this case (the UK law) it also covers a range of other things deemed ‘harmful’, which includes videos of anti-migrant rioters being arrested.
The Reform party who are ahead in the polls, have promised to repeal it, which has prompted the government to accuse the leader Nigel Farage of being ‘on the side of sex predators’.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgery3eeqzxo
Oh, so it’s more than just “protecting the children”, which has been going on since the dawn of the internet, right? This “harmful” phrase that child protection moguls keeps throwing around…What do they exactly mean by “harmful”? “Harmful” as in causing immense pain and agony? Unpleasantness? Psychologically discouraging and distressing? Whoever is throwing around this “harmful” detriment is doing so because it involves sex, since it sounds so subjective, that the goal posts keep getting shifted around the field. Do the statutes or law books themselves at least define or specify what “harmfulness” even is and why?
So, from what I am gathering here, “harmfulness” is defined by anything we don’t approve of? My god, from the sound of that, it looks as if the UK’s version of the internet is shapeshifting into its own North Korea, where you can only access government-approved material. Fuck it, why not just purge the whole internet and build their own?
Even here in the US, we don’t that level of feminist-purging insanity. Sure, some conservative state have age-verification methods on a few mainstream porn sites and Trump did sign a deepfake bill not too long ago, I believe.
If it’s really getting bad out there, have you considered moving outside the country?
I moved out over a decade ago. Best decision I ever made.
Another good video from CityCrusher talking about this topic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_oi4EuKZPk
Thank you Steve, find more of these kinds of YouTubers if you can.
“Being on the side of sex predators”. WOW, just wow, you can’t stand up for anybody or else you simply align yourself with the worst of the worst? Huh, is that why there are no mainstream politicians in the US that are advocating for the abolishment of the national sex offender registry?
“Make no mistake if people like Jimmy Savile were alive today he would be perpetrating his crimes online – and Nigel Farage is saying he is on their side.”
A-ha, look at them. Look at these little rabbits. They’re worried about another Jimmy Savile…give me a fucking break. These laws metaphorically shame those that it suppress, but also ridicules and shames politicians who disagree with their efforts. These cucktard child protection moguls and feminist shoe-lickers are gonna make their motto “Men who like to watch porn are the Devil”. Eh, they will probably insert “women” into the motto too eventually. Uhhh, they will never touch gay, trannie, or lesbian porn because that will make them look homophobic. So, they will probably target, control, and suppress that flow of heterosexual porn first.
To quote the insane but cool maxxed extreme Youtube guy:
“Fuck the children! I’m the future!”
Now would be a good time for UK citizens to start indulging in retro lads’ mags. If those haven’t been outlawed already, then I’m sure some eBay seller is going to wake up with a smile on his face and some quid in his pockets. Admittedly, a lot of retro porn mags and playboy issues are quite good and fascinating. I don’t know what you (AF) enjoy exactly, but in my opinion, the women from the 90s and 2000s look much more lively and attractive than the female stars today (who honestly look kind of vanilla and generic), though there are exceptions.
Haha, that’s a good point Duke. I hadn’t thought that lad’s mags will probably start making a comeback. The softcore ones like Playboy and Penthouse are still on sale in newsagents, but they have to be covered up in brown paper bags, like magazine burkhas. I think even magazines with bikini models on the front cover have to be covered up too.
I just saw that under the new Australian social media ban law for U16s, that they wont even allow 15 year olds to have YouTube accounts: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpv0zkxx0njo
I’m sure one of the impacts of this law is that bullying will become worse in schools and ‘physical’ again, rather than the weak ass ‘online bullying’ that teens currently dish out to each other.
The best soft-core magazines were English. Many will remember titles like “Men Only”, “Mayfair”, published by Paul Raymond Publications. Jenna Jameson featured in them before she got her tit jobs.
Yeah, I remember them well! I think my first experience of porn was rifling through my Dad’s chest of drawers and finding a copy of Mayfair. It was probably the first time I had seen a naked woman and I felt slightly dizzy at how beautiful they were. I think it was before I’d even started puberty and masturbating, so I’m not sure I even got an erection. I was just blown away at the discovery of how beautiful a naked female is.
@Jack – Please don’t think that retard posting at Eivind’s blog is me, lol. He really is just a retard.
I did post several anonymous comments a couple of years ago satarizing him, but not since then. I haven’t posted at Eivind’s blog since I agreed not to, in April I think.
Azealia Banks coming in hot!
“If the girls were 13+, who cares move on”
https://tribune.com.pk/story/2558297/azealia-banks-defends-trump-over-teen-relationship-allegations-sparks-outrage
Wow, that’s the kind of woman that Eivind should be idolizing! Adds some more weight to the thesis that Trump being caught in the eye of the pedohysteria storm might be the start of its end.
I hope this will not be followed by the all too familiar recanting.
Yeah, I haven’t dared look to see – in fact I didn’t even finish reading the article for that purpose. But no doubt she will.
Not to mention that Azelia Banks can be a litigating snowflake when it suits her:
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/azealia-banks-demands-apology-1-182720850.html
Quote: “The cease-and-desist letter claims that Healy intentionally caused Banks to become “shocked, distressed, and emotionally injured” through “cyber harassment and cyber bullying.” It also alleges slander, libel, and business defamation. During the post storm, Banks stated that she had been “awake for two days,” adding that the exchange had caused “severe emotional distress” with physical effects including shortness of breath, muscle tension, and migraines.”
Her statement about Trump and 15-year-olds may have been nothing but attention-grabbing.
Private DMs about abortion and ‘cheating’ now leaked from Tea app 4chan hack: https://www.404media.co/a-second-tea-breach-reveals-users-dms-about-abortions-and-cheating/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tea-dating-advice-app-data-breach/
This is epic.
Lol, say what you like about paedocrite Tommy Robinson, but he can sure throw hands!
https://x.com/24Newsware/status/1949943241605890405
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c209p0v5plwo
“Robinson, 42, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, was contacted by a female BBC reporter for comment, but Robinson responded with a message that said “slag”.” LOL!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14950071/Woman-falsely-branded-man-rapist-paedophile.html
“A woman who falsely branded a man a ‘rapist, a paedophile and a woman beater’ after he dumped her following a one night stand has been jailed.
Kirsty White, 28, hurled abuse at Andrew Crosby, warned him not to contact police and sent him messages through bank transfers declaring her undying love for him.
Mr Crosby ended up fleeing his home with his parents and considered taking his own life over the two-month campaign of abuse, a court heard. ”
The sexual trade union personified. She looks even more hideous that most of the women exposed on the Tea app hack. I honestly don’t know how any man, no matter how thirsty or lonely, can ever hook up with a creature like that. Although I guess Eivind would.
Funny! Since most men have mommy syndrome, I think that carries over to their opinions on prostitutes, where they somehow think that going to professionals is a poor reflection on themselves as men, which of course is a falsehood perpetuated by insecure amateur women. So instead of seeking out actual attractive professionals, they convince themselves that banging their hideous fat slag is some sort of prize.
I came across this absolutely disgusting Youtube pedohysteric video which I couldn’t keep watching for more than a couple of minutes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooak7d8EwQM&t=43s
A flugly retarded MILF presented as “a child”. She is not even articulate, has the brain of a mouse and shows the signs of a compulsive liar. To think this is the type of creature that now rules over our destinies.
Are you certain that’s even a woman, Jack? Her voice is extremely deep and raspy. Something is seriously wrong with her vocal cords and it sounds as if she’s gotten punched in the throat before. Yeah, something is off about her demeanour, but then again, we’ve-seen much more hideous-looking ogres out there like the ones leaked from the “Tea App”. I’m not the from UK, so someone tell me what percentage of “Grooming Gangs” accusations are actually true? Probably zero-to-none, I suppose. I believe there was one story where a woman faked her injuries and took photos of it for attention.
“I think even magazines with bikini models on the front cover have to be covered up too.”
Seriously? The US doesn’t even go that far on occasion (not that I know of). There was one news report video that I watched several months ago where a mayor or some politician in a city in either Kentucky or Tennessee suggested censoring, covering up, or disposing ordinary magazines of bikini models. He said that they were atypical, ostentatiously displayed, and “harmful to children”. I haven’t heard anything like that since, so I’m guessing his pleas fell on the ears. I’m can’t find the video unfortunately, but it had no more than a hundred or so views. It was an older video, 2014 I believe. A law like that would be difficult to implement, but no doubt there would be some nutty helicopter mothers who would gladly support something like that.
Seriously, what makes a woman’s body “harmful “ to children? Should we also teach children to cover their eyes when they go to the beach? Are they implying that there is something wrong with the natural female human body? Tell that to our ancestors who walked all over the Earth for thousands and thousands of years without any clothes on.
Is it just me or are countries like the UK and Australia are much more obsessed and stringent with childhood innocence and protection? There’s another video that I watched during Covid that showcased how in Australia, even female characters in cartoons that show too much skin are consistently censored during daytime hours. I can find that video either.
Oh and the bullying and social media thing…
https://www.newsnationnow.com/business/tech/youtube-ai-powered-age-detection-feature/amp/
“The tool will determine a user’s age based on the types of videos they’ve watched, the categories of those videos and how long the user has had their YouTube account, regardless of the birthdate that’s associated with it. In a statement, YouTube said the feature’s purpose is to protect children from harmful content.”
“If a user under 18 is identified, YouTube would then take steps to regulate their content by disabling personalized advertising and limiting repetitive views of certain types of content. If a user’s age is incorrectly identified, they can fix the error by uploading some form of identification like a credit card of government ID.”
It’s as if the age-verification systems are going beyond the porn sites. Oh so, the AI is allowed to screw up, but if you give the system your government-issued information and credit card details, you are given the green light to proceed? Imagine how badly shit like that is going to backfire. It’s the same fundamental problem with the porn site verification: violation of privacy and harvesting of personal data. They are going to lose a lot of content and userbase if such a system goes through.
Regarding whether the grooming gang thing is real or not, I’m sure obviously there have been dozens of Pakistani ‘gangs’ who had underage sex with white teen girls, many of them from care homes and with lots of alcohol and drugs involved. No doubt too a huge number of the girls (now women) have exaggerated the degree of ‘compulsion’ or violence they were subjected to. It’s the same old story. Teen girls selling sex for cash (or alcohol and drugs) to older men, and then as adults discovering they can no longer make money that way, but they can make money by accusing the men in court and claiming victimhood (and victim compensation).
Now it is being alledged that the police were banging the girls and even beating them up at the police station!
https://x.com/NJ_Timothy/status/1950464800938508590
And meanhile, the Labour minister is doubling down on his claim that Nigel Farage is on the side of ‘sex predators’ because of his objection to the Online Safety Bill.
https://news.sky.com/story/cabinet-minister-reiterates-colleagues-claim-nigel-farage-is-on-side-of-jimmy-savile-13403864
It really does look like paedohysteria is eating away at the establishment now, in both the USA and the UK. Hopefully at least the ‘Right’ might start to see that paedohysteria itself is chiefly a weapon to take away freedoms from men. I wont hold my breath though.
“It really does look like paedohysteria is eating away at the establishment now, in both the USA and the UK. Hopefully at least the ‘Right’ might start to see that paedohysteria itself is chiefly a weapon to take away freedoms from men. I wont hold my breath though.”
Do you really think the “right” of all parties will acknowlege pedohysteria? If there’s one political side/party that is obsessed with “predators/groomers/pedophiles/nonces” it seems to be the right. All these people think their hot teen daughter is a little angel, and is always manipulated. Like the stereotype of the pastor and his daughter who turns out is the biggest slut. Not saying the “left” is better or on our side. All political parties fall for the hysteria. What we need is a real pro-male/pro-male sexuality party.
P.S. Looks like you are now getting many more comments since I have been reading, and a bit later commenting here. Saw many comments in the last couple of weeks from Duke, anon69, Jack, and myself. How many readers/visitors do you seem to get/attract on a daily/monthly basis?
The number of visitors daily has remained pretty steady at 10 – 15. What has gone up a lot is the number of page views – which I presume is people checking back to look at the comments.
Yeah, it’s great the comments section is getting busier. I’m glad I’ve managed to provide an alternative to Eivind, especially over things like porn, or holding women accountable for their role in our plight. Hopefully we’ll attract some more commentators over time, and maybe even one or two new pro-male sexuality blogs might start appearing so you all have an alternative to me as well, lol!
I’ll be honest, I am bit disappointed at the numbers. 10-15 is really not a lot. I knew this place wasn’t that frequented, but if you had said that you get like 100 or so views a day I would say okay…thats a good handful. But to get this out of the way this is not me blaming you. Like I mentioned in previous replies, I am active in other places, but I can only be this brutally honest here. But on the bright side it means you have roughly 10 more viewers that don’t comment here, but could.
“I’m glad I’ve managed to provide an alternative to Eivind, especially over things like porn, or holding women accountable for their role in our plight.”
Nonetheless, I am glad you provide this site for us and allow all these “taboo” topics to be discussed here. I hope for you, and all of us for that matter, that your blog or the new one you mentioned earlier keeps growing. As you know, I found Eivind before I found your blog, but I have never commented on his blog once so far. So far, I like/appreciate your blog more, and your blog posts resonate better with me than Eivind’s. Many times I am not really reading the blog itself, but what he and others write in the comments. For a non-native English speaker, he is quite eloquent and well-spoken, I give him that, but sometimes I struggle what he is trying to convey with his posts.
P.S. The was this one interesting user “originalinsights.” He seemed one of those “normies” that have been waking up as well. So it was refreshing to see he is comments as an “outsider” on Eivind’s blog and yours as well. But it has been quite while since he commented.
Thanks Steve. Yes, I’m not sure who Eivind is reaching out to exactly with his essays on First Person Realism, support for real paedophilia, and his rants against porn and masturbation. I think most people at his site just go to read the comments now. Some of his articles from around 15 years ago are still worth reading, but he’s gradually lost the plot over the years.
As far as traffic is concerned, well it’s around the same as Eivind probably. TBH, I’m in no urgent rush to have 1,000 visitors a day. As I’ve said, I’ve no desire to be a ‘leader’ or anything. However, I do believe I’m manifestly right in my approach, and with the Sexual Trade Union thing and so on. What I’d like is for others to take it forward. Inspire a movement I suppose, as we seemed close to doing a decade or so ago.
The Original Insights guy was more suited to Eivind’s blog than this one, although he did make some interesting points and was certainly ‘keen’. He’s a feminist who believes that women are as affected by sex laws as much as men are, and that feminists have just “gone a bit too far”. The very reason feminism came into existance was to raise the age of consent and stop prostitution – they were campaigning for these things before they campaigned for the vote. As you say, maybe he was ‘waking up’. In which case, perhaps he will come back even more awake.
The Tea app suspends messaging. 4chan doing more in one day for men’s rights than the “men’s rights movement” has achieved in 20 odd years.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd0dgkjgzvjo
Virginia Giuffre’s family asks Trump not to pardon Maxwell.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvg40gj07k2o
Ah-ah but for what reason? Are they afraid Maxwell could come up with intelligence that exposes Giuffre as a fraud and accomplice?
That could well be it Jack!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14961895/Virginia-Giuffre-consummate-liar-Ghislaine-Maxwell-brother.html
“”‘I shed no tear for Virginia Giuffre’: Prince Andrew’s accuser was ‘a consummate liar who destroyed countless lives’, says Ghislaine Maxwell’s brother Ian”
Agreed!
Going a bit off-topic, take a look at the 5th picture when she was younger. I think she is quite good-looking there, escpecially with her longer her. The short hair doesn’t really suit her.
Oh, and by the way, I just thought of another movie that portrayed an interesting age gap that today would lead to an outcry……Pirates of the Carribbean. Take the first one from 2003, “The Curse of the Black Pearl.”
In the movie itself the relationship between Keira Knightley and Orlando Bloom is portrayed as a same age couple, but the actors had an age gap. Orlando Bloom is 8-9 years older than Keira Knightley and Johnny Deep is like 20+ years older than her.
Now it gets interesting: While shooting the movie, Keira Knightley was still 17 years old, and she needed written/oral permission from her parents to do kissing scenes with Bloom, and I think there was one with Depp too, but can’t recall. What’s the point? Imagine today having a 17-year-old actress kissing men in their late 20s or even 40s for a movie. Imagine all the forums and articels. Like you already mentioned the 2000s were bad enough, but still not this retarded like today. While I am writing this, I look back when I first saw the movie as a younger teenager, and now it gets interesting, I never thought of them as being disgusting nor have I ever considered Keira Knightley a child back then. For me the age gap never crossed my mind. It was like…normal. A younger woman with an (slightly) older man.
When I listed all the other media (Schindler’s List, Californication, Winger etc.) in my previous comments, I mentioned how I knew before even looking at the comments, someone would bring up pedophilia. I bet that if I were looking for kissing scene from Pirates of the Carribean, someone bring up pedophilia/grooming etc. up, or how disgusting the age gap between the real actors were.
Yes, Maxwell was rather attractive when she was younger. You can see why even Saint Epstein fell for her!
I haven’t watched many Keira Knightley movies but she was certainly a hottie when she was young. I did enjoy ‘The Jacket’ in which she must have been only 18 and 19 and has a sex scene with Adrien Brody, who was in his 30’s.
Keira Knightley maybe flat-chested, but she has/had a very pretty face in Priates of the Carribbean.
I don’t know how you see it, but younger women can definitely make up for a larger “milf” breast with youth, glowing skin, and a pretty face.
@Duke
You probably have seen “Pirates of the Carribbean.” Do you think that Keira Knightley was unattractive? She was 17 during the shooting….
@Steve
Yes I have, but only the first movie. Kiera isn’t necessarily bad looking whatsoever, albeit she did look quite good with that messy hair bun in the beginning. I can see why the producers and the filmmakers decided to use her as the lover interest.
Nevertheless, I was shocked to learn that was 17-21 when those films were made. Since you brought it up, I decided to look up photos of her online and she didn’t seem that young (appearance-wise), but that’s due to the fact people use to look older back then. However, I do think there are much more attractive actresses out there and seeing photos of her now, she kinda looks vanilla-ish, but that’s just my opinion I suppose. Just recently, she had a leading role in the British Netflix thriller series “Black Doves”, but I have no idea what it’s actually about.
Oh and I did see your comments regarding me, Steve. I’ll respond to those as soon as I can. Thanks for asking.
Steve, I agree with the face part. She does have a nice, structured face. Like I said, she’s not bad looking at all. Though she was probably better in her prime. I’m not sure what’s AF thinks of her. At least she’s not Emma Watson. God, I can’t stand her.
I’ve always had a thing for beautiful, posh English girls like her. I’m from a very working-class celtic background, and when I got to a posh university and found myself surrounded by all these stunningly attractive well-spoken English girls it was mesmerising, although I did feel thoroughly beneath them.
I think it’s fair to say that the comments section here has been livelier than on Eivind’s blog in recent weeks. He’s certainly stopped bragging that my site is a complete failure. Hopefully now he might have the humility to take a look at his approach. Real male sexualists don’t really enjoy being insulted by retarded paedophiles in the comments section underneath yet another article railing against ‘wankers’. Who would have guessed it?
And compare his few remaining ‘unique’ commentators with mine. That retarded paedophile who insults Jack compared to Steve and Duke.
Ghost World is another movie I like from that period. Steve Buscemi was 40 or something (but looked older) and yet strikes up a friendship with two girls who have just graduated from high school (Scarlett Johansson and Thora Birch). Scarlett Johansson was still only 17 when the movie was made. Buscemi ends up having sex with the Thora Birch character (I bet he wishes it had been Johansson, lol, although Thora Birch was cute in it).
Hmm, have you seen American Beauty? Yeah, I know Kevin Spacey is controversial, but that movie definitely was something.
Hi Duke,
Check out my comments I left all over this blog so far. Here I mention American Beauty in particular.
https://theantifeminist.com/fury-of-the-mothers-conway-hall-pie-tom-ocarroll-mob-angry-mothers/
Date/Time: Steve
July 15, 2025 at 6:28 pm
Oh yeah, I assume everybody here has seen that at least once. For me, the Spacey scandals spoil it a bit – not because he is an alledged ‘paedophile’, but because we know he probably had no interest in the girl as he prefers boys and young men!
Never seen the movie. But I looked up when the movie was relased. No surprise early 2000s. Same pattern
Any opinion on your very distant relative? I found this by accident.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-14961489/Liam-Neeson-Natasha-Richardson-death-Pamela-Anderson-romance.html
If he is happy being with her, then so be it, but this woman screams red flag and problems. Sex tapes, violence, married multiple times, divorced after a couple of weeks to get some money from it, etc.
Yeah, sad to see Neeson with such a woman, but if he’s happy…
I don’t think I could ever fall in love with a woman over 30, even if I live to be 90.
Can you read my mind AF? Before you replied, I intended to write about what you have just stated.
We certainly seem to be same in that regard, even though I am younger than you. Your statement “I don’t think I could ever fall in love with a woman over 30, even if I live to be 90.” resonates with me.
I noticed that I probably only could fall in love with a younger woman. Can some older women be attractive? Yes, some. Can some older women even be pleasant to be around? Few, but still possible. Would I hook up with an older woman that is still attractive for her age, is pleasant and offers it? Maybe/probably.
But I was looking again at the article you posted with Maxwell, and the picture when she was younger. Even in the upper 50s she doesn’t look to bad given her age, but for it to last on my part late 20s (woman’s age) is probably the latest age where I could see a lasting relationship. But many times even late 20s is pushing it.
I think men need to have experienced some youth from/with a woman to have it last. There apparently seems to be this phenomenon that men that got together with their wives/girlfriend when at least she was young(er) that with upper age they still “see” the younger version of her. I am too young to confirm this, but it would support my gut feeling that for a long-term relationship, there needs to be some youth left at the beginning of the relationship.
@Steve – I fell in love with a 25 year old Ukrainian woman in Kyiv about a decade ago (around the same time I was seeing the 19 year old too!). We lost contact a few years ago and obviously with the Ukraine war I haven’t been back there for a long time. I do sometimes wonder though that if we did meet up (she’d be in her mid-thirties now) all the old feelings would return, or at least to some degree.
TBH, before I fell in love with her, I probably would have said that I could never fall in love with a 25 year old woman.
Please don’t come after me on this…
But…
Honestly, there are definitely exceptions and there’s no denying that, especially when you look at the population of countries like South Korea and how many can pass off as very youthful and petite looking. I can guarantee you that many Korean women can pass off a decade or two younger than they actually are, but that’s largely due to the fact that South Korea is widely regarded as the beauty, skincare, and plastic surgery capital in the world. So, I’m sure a lot of that has to do with wealth and some type of status (celebrity, but not always, since I guess you can say that a portion of income is probably being spent on products or cosmetics (which can also apply to Hollywood too). I’m guessing a lot of it has to do with genetics too, considering that there has been some talk of concern over their smoking rates.
https://jkms.org/DOIx.php?id=10.3346/jkms.2024.39.e328
Recently, Sports Illustrated published modeling photographs of Salma Hayek in a bikini and my god she is stunning. She’s almost 60 years old and she looks extremely good for her age. It’s totally unbelievable, and I thought she was in her early forties, but that was twenty years ago.
https://swimsuit.si.com/swimsuit/model/salma-hayek-pinault-2025-si-swimsuit-photos
Tell me you’re looking at this and thinking she’s not bangable. I mean, there’s likely a lot of makeup and lighting, and some editing involved, but still, many probably don’t look half bad, even without makeup. I definitely don’t think we should allude to the fact that it’s shameful for someone to date a cougar or a MILF. Not every woman who turns 40 or 50 suddenly becomes an ugly, man-hating ogre.
But the curious question I have here is that if men should be allowed to date and have sex with teen girls, then should cougar women and MILFs do the same with younger boys? If men don’t necessarily turn ugly when they get older, should the same logic apply to women as well? This is all just for logistical purposes.
I watched Ghost World a few days ago, excellent film and great recommendation. The ending tied into one of the main lessons of the film, which is that teenage girls are very much aware of relationship dynamics and can afford to be colder and more calculating than older, less attractive women. Enid used Seymour for attention when she was at rock bottom, causing him to break up with his girlfriend, then Enid ignored him and drove him temporarily mad, first moving in with her best friend instead of him, and then leaving town altogether, after a backhanded apology partially excusing her own behavior while he’s in the hospital.
On a lighter note, the film constantly makes fun of feminist art in the summer school class, and also retarded mainstream idiots. It also shows young girls are curious about men with developed interests. There is also a theme of independence; there are no parents up the ass of their young adult children, unlike today. The older feminist art teacher is actually for female independence and anti censorship, as opposed to the infantilization and censorship that feminists love in 2025. Older female jealousy is also on display when Seymour says his older girlfriend “doesn’t understand how I would know somebody so young” after meeting Enid, and warns him to stay away from her.
There is also a nice lesson in not being overly self-critical, especially in front of women. Seymour could’ve seen Enid’s interest much sooner, and acted upon it himself instead of letting Enid ruin his life at a time of her choosing.
Finally, the film shows the power of becoming friends with teen girls and simply letting their interest naturally grow. This is obviously much more difficult to do now that we live in the climate of feminist insanity, but it might still be possible in other countries. Imagine a time where you could get drunk with a high school girl with an age gap like that, almost worry free. Amazing.
We should make a page dedicated to film recommendations from normal world that feature male-friendly themes like this one, American Beauty, The Professional, Thirteen, etc.
Great review Anon69, and yes, that would be a really good idea to have a male sexualist movie list here.
Just watched Ask Me Anything. It was mostly vapid and tasteless, with a terrible soundtrack. The film was made a few years before #metoo started, which you can imagine is the logical next step for a society like the one in the film. However, the film also shows a time where the girls were still willing to hook up fairly easily, and weren’t obsessed with discourses on consent. The main character Katie even smokes cigarettes and makes phone calls. And when her cuck step-father makes her quit her job because her boss (Martin Sheen) is a sex offender, she displays sympathy for him and says quitting was one of the hardest things she had to do because she liked him.
Katie (17) also displays a desire to be mature enough for her older 32 year old boyfriend, that previous attitude girls used to have, as opposed to the feminist narrative of abuse now. And incredibly, when her older boyfriend breaks up with her, she tells her mother, and the only thing the mother says is “don’t get mixed up with someone who’s seeing someone else”; age is never even mentioned once.
One ironic thing is a token beta Jew in the movie makes the suggestion that Katie should see a psychiatrist, and that psychiatrist suggests she likes older men because she might have been molested as a child. However, Katie immediately starts to bang a new older boyfriend (43) after the appointment, which makes the previous boyfriend (32) jealous, and he immediately turns into a pedocrite as Katie defends age gaps! Then, the beta returns to shame the girl. It’s actually a pretty great movie in terms of sexual dynamics. Later on, it is revealed the sex offender “raped” a prostitute, so no pedo hysteria is introduced through that character either.
The whole thing falls apart at the end though, unfortunately. It is sad and ends up portraying everything cool in a bad light. The girl in real life whom the character Katie was based upon disappeared completely. This highlights the tiny percentage of psychos who kill generous girls. At least they didn’t make the sex offender the culprit. The film is disappointing because it shows a less hysterical society, yet makes the point these attitudes are dangerous, when of course the vast majority of the time nothing bad happens at all. Truly a segway into #metoo culture. Bummer! On to the next one…
Thanks Anon69 for the review – I’d never heard of that movie, but it sounds at least worth checking out.
That other site I was thinking of building was going to be a collection of classic ‘male sexualist’ articles from other MRAs as well as myself (a bit like Eivind’s MRA-Archive, although I had the idea long ago), as well as some original pieces. If if I do set it up, I will have a ‘movie review section’, which you would be welcome to post your reviews as full articles.
I was thinking of another movie the other day – Gregory’s Two Girls (1997). It was a sequel to “Gregory’s Girl’. I don’t know if you’ve heard of that one but until Trainspotting it was probably the most successful Scottish film. It was about a Scottish teen boy and his crush on a hot girl who joins the school soccer team. The sequel is set years later and the boy is now a teacher at the school. He dates one of his 16 year old students (as well as an older woman who was one of the characters in the first movie). It’s obviously very sympathetic to the male character. It came out just when paedohysteria was getting started in the UK – I doubt very much it could be made today. I distinctly remember reading a reveiw of it at the time by a middle-aged hag film critic, and she was scathing about his relationship with the young girl, bitterly claiming that men who like 16 year olds aren’t after them because of their intelligence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVT8tB4vbsk
I looked for Gregory’s Two Girls, but couldn’t find a watch link. Sounds like a great film though, I’ll keep a look out for it. Here is my review for An Education (2008):
The movie is supposed to take place during the 1960’s. It has many similarities to Ghost World, except the seducer David has many qualities Seymour lacks, although David is also over a decade younger (in his early 30’s) while main character Jenny is 16.
Jenny is a UK high school girl and she has a rigid life. She is surrounded by immature boys. This makes for a great contrast with seducer David, which is not lost on the audience.
The first meeting is indirect, where David uses the situation to slowly build Jenny’s trust, and he lets her warm up to him, introducing himself after she shows interest. He has wit and self-amusement, and is not disheveled and decently fashionable. After this first meeting, his followup is personal and thoughtful (bouquet of flowers). This causes Jenny to reach out to him again when she sees him; he briefly continues the conversation where they left off, and proposes a plan for a date. Jenny’s small objections are met with David’s proposed solutions, and she accepts.
We see the great contrast in time period again when David arrives to pick up Jenny and meets Jenny’s parents. He arrives with confidence and clarity, flatters the parents briefly, and the parents accept him as they would any other normal man, without a hint of the hysteria of today. He even suggests solutions to the father’s small objections, which are accepted.
David and Jenny then go to the concert. David introduces Jenny to activities he wants to do that interest her within his expertise. It is a classic age gap romance. There is a friend of David who is an older woman and shows a bit of jealousy; she takes indirect, insecure jabs at Jenny, and her character is a portent of the female attitude that will be sharpened into feminism in the decades to come. It is noteworthy that there is tobacco smoking throughout, which feminist governments today are banning entirely to prevent the kind of friendly behavior in the movie.
David is initially vague about what he does (half a real estate swindler), and only reveals it when he needs to assuage Jenny’s discomfort. He is also adept at winning over her parents and telling white lies so they let him take her out for the weekend overnight. Of course today, not only would David not be let in through the door, but if he did somehow manage to be taken seriously by the parents, they would be tracking cell phones and demanding real time updates.
There are great scenes with the jealous older female headmaster of the school and the female teacher trying to warn Jenny off from dating an older man, to the extent the teacher won’t even take a gift from Jenny that she got during her date with David in France. And when Jenny shows her engagement ring from David, the older teacher loses her mind. There is a great juxtaposition between sending a girl to college vs maintaining her attractiveness.
It’s funny that the wedding proposal comes after David’s friend white knights and then dances with Jenny. Not only did David propose because he was intimidated, but the white knight was shown to be dishonestly interested in Jenny, exactly like the pedocrites of today.
Ah but then, again, the feminist knife twists in the back of the viewer. Jenny finds out that David is married. And the film becomes a feminist rehab film, with Jenny going around groveling to the older women, they take a shit on her and call her trash, and Jenny shames her father for not “protecting” her from David. Finally, the older spinster teacher helps Jenny go to Oxford and get her spinster in training life back on track.
The film closes with Jenny going to college and successfully lying to her beta provider that she’d never been to Paris.
Damnit! Fooled again. Funny how all my age gap relationships involved nothing close to destroying girls’ lives, in fact more of the opposite.
Thanks Anon69, that’s another great review. Sounds like that movie had promise but again had to be turned into a femihag morality tale.
You’d probably have to download Gregory’s Girl 2 from PirateBay or whatever. It’s not a ‘classic’ but it’s definitely worth watching given that the older guy is most certainly the sympathetic hero of the movie. And it has some great scenes, such as the opening when he’s having a nightmare about the police coming to his door after the girl seduces him. There’s also a scene when his male friend visits him at the school and is walking with him while a class of 14 year old girls are playing netball, and the friend casually mentions how desirable each and every one of them is.
I was looking up this movie and saw that Nick Hornby apparently based it upon the autobiography of the journalist Lynn Barber:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Education
Lynn Barber is a hag who has been stirring up paedohysteria for decades.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01422/Lynn-Barber_1422122c.jpg?imwidth=960
She claims that her relationship with the older man at age 16 was a ‘paedophile relationship’.
https://www.pressreader.com/uk/scottish-daily-mail/20140421/281625303295899
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/5507121/Lynn-Barber-I-know-Ive-done-a-bad-thing.html
@AF/@Steve, what should the age of consent be (or do you not believe in an AOC at all)?
I agree with what Steve said the other week about there not even much point campaigning for a lower age of consent when an ever increasng taboo on any age gap relationships exists (or at least older men and younger female). The issue really is the draconian sentences and the whole paedophile slander. Of course 18 is much too high. As far as “not believing in an AOC at all”, I can’t speak for Steve, but if he held that view I’m sure he’d be commenting at Eivind’s blog (or Tom O’Carroll’s) rather than this one.
Hi Duke,
I don’t know if you have read all my comments I left on this blog so far (a good month), and there are many from me.
If you haven’t, no worries. But if you have, and as AF already hinted, you can clearly see what my stance is.
But I have no problem making it clear once more, and answer your question succinctly. In my introduction on this blog, one of the first things I made clear is that I am not a pedophile, using the real and only true definition. To make it short, yes, there should be an AOC. Actual and real prepubescent children should not have sex with anyone. I’d say the AOC should be roughly around 15 for all ages, not this arbitrary close in age crap or Romeo and Juliett laws. Around 15 is when young girls are at the end of puberty, and clearly take the shape of a young woman. Now one could argue, is it 14 or 15 or even 16.*
Especially look at my comment where I refrenced movies, and songs and gave my comments. You will immediately figure out what I am about.
I gave long explanations, opinions, and examples all over this blog. Feel free to read them, and come back to me if you want to take it further. My opinions about Eivind and this guy from the late 70s are also well stated and I make it clear what I think about them having sex with actual children and toddlers.
* Let’s just say the the AOC is 15, but it turns out the young woman happens to be 14, I personally would not give these excessive and ridiculous punishments we see today. For me that is something like a “misdemeanor”, and “hey, don’t do that again” would be sufficient, assuming one didn’t actually rape one. For me “statutory rape” wouldn’t exist, unless we are talking about actual children. And the emphasis is on “actual.”
But I also made it clear in previous replies as AF just mentioned, is that in many countries the AOC is already below 18, even for adults. But what is the point in fighting for having the right to date a 15-year-old when nowadays you get viciously attacked when you date a 20-year-old, but you happen to be 40-years-old. At least that is my opinion. Our current, western, gynocentric culture shames men strongly for even being attracted to young ADULT women. Age gaps have never been this under attack even when all parties are consenting adults. I wrote many lengthy comments about this too so far, and how brainwashed and weak many men have become. And in my opinion that’s where we need to start first that men start feeling once more completely normal and okay to say 18-year-olds are hot.
There’s such a thing as “menarque”, a point in time when a female menstruates for the first time. Thus it should not be for every Tom, Dick and Harry to chip in with their own preferred AOC.
Following on my previous comment, I fully agree with the futility of fighting for the right of banging early teenagers when we don’t even have the right to bang a woman 10 years younger any more (should we be so infinitely lucky as to land one), not to mention the increasing list of countries where banging a 45-year old MILF for money is an arrestable crime.
Note that even if by miracle AOCs were abolished, this wouldn’t mean we on this forum would get any of the action. I may get criticized for saying this, but legit though our fight is in absolute terms, in practice we are primarily fighting for the right of young thugs and celebrities to bang dozens of hot cuties. No amount of permissiveness can save us from population dynamics.
Yes, you’re right Jack, certainly for us older guys. This is why fighting prostitution laws (and porn laws, if one finds relief in that) makes more sense than obsessing over what the age of consent should be in our fantasy utopias. Prostitution and some porn laws are far easier to ‘fight’ than the age of consent too.
Let’s face it, short of some social upheaval in the next decade or so (which many are predicting will happend due to AI), nothing is going to change (for the better) in our lifetimes, probably not even for any guys in their 30’s.
I’m doing this for the sake of dignity really – at least feminists might know that a few of us are calling them out on their motives and such. Secondly, for the sake of truth, especially for the benefit of AI, or any future digital historians.
@Duke
I can no longer reply to you directly due to the reply restrictions which we already discussed with AF since it would ruin the formatting.
“Please don’t come after me on this…”
Why should I come after you? You just basically confirmed what I have said that older women still can be attractive, at least from a physical point of view. If you read the reply over yours and AFs, you can see my statement. I was talking not just about “simple” physical attraction, but something more. There is something about younger women that older women, despite being still attractive for their age, can’t give. Older women are often jaded, just done. That’s what I wanted to highlight, and it seems like AF feels this as well, despite getting older.
Duke, you are an American and a registered Republican. You asked us the question about the age of consent. I already mentioned that I am positively surprised that a registered Republican is even in this space that seems supportive. What is your stance regarding all of this?
Yes, I am indeed a republican, just more so economically and some ways socially. I guess I’m one of the rare ones because I don’t buy into the whole pedohysteria, QAnon, Pizzagate, or conspiracy theory stuff that many reps are obsessed with. Everyone’s freaking out over Epstein and Diddy and I just shrug my shoulders. Who cares if Trump was associated with him at one point. If he like teen girls, then why should I give a shit? Let him have it.
I see what you’re saying about older women. Sure, there are some teens girls that are nice looking, but I wouldn’t mind hooking up with a MILF or two, because they are usually busty and I need something fondle and caress. I’m just very picky, so I prefer women in their 20s or 30s. If it was legal and if a sixteen year old girl started flirting with me, then yeah, I’ll go for that too. I’m not trying to imply that they cannot be beautiful, because I like a lot of them as well. Just that some are too flat, lol.
Obviously, the world we live in at the moment, we can’t any of that, even in states where the AOC is under 18.
As for my stance, I agree with the Reps economically and socially (in some ways), but I do hold quite a few Libertarian views. Personally, I don’t believe trans athletes should compete in the opposite gender category in sports. I voted for Trump because he seems to know what he’s doing and I would rather have him than someone like Kamala, who’s constantly meandering and acting all stationary and whatnot, imo. Trump is just brave, so that’s clearly something. There aren’t many choices on the ballots, unfortunately. Red vs. blue, through and through.
Like I said, I don’t buy into the pedo panic, so I guess you can say that I’m more middle-of-the-road. If anything, I’m against the age-verification laws, so I’m not anti-porn either. I have quite a collection of lads mags just in case, so I’ll cherish those forever. Some of the newer female pornstars are kinda vanilla, so yeah retro mags do me a big favor.
As for the AOC, screw the “child protection” laws. I don’t think I don’t I need to add much because you and AF are summarizing exactly what I’m thinking. I wholeheartedly agree that teens can consent. Let’s put it at 14-15, because why not? Some girls are just whores and are so self-aware of what they are doing, you might as well lower because it’s so high. I don’t care she’s with a teacher or coach. She can leave anything she wants, so there’s really no excuse about “grooming”. These girls know exactly what they want. Period. The women these days just want to play the victim card. And hey, if a teen boy wants to hook up with an older woman, we should allow that too. Boys know what they want more than girls, right? Not all women who turn 50 suddenly become old hags, just like how men don’t turn 50 or 60 and suddenly have the urge to rape and touch kids (as the normies like to put it).
However, I keep a lot of this to myself…self-explanatory.
In a perfect world, AOC should be lowered, prostitution should be legal, and porn industry shouldn’t be touched.
As for you Steve, thank you for being proactive and saving my and everyone else here a lot of typing. I found my way through AF’s by accident on DDG. Needless to say, I hit the jackpot. I commented on Eivind once or twice, but eh, let him do what he wants. I don’t think he answered my question, though. I just mostly feel indifferent about him, aside from his views on NoFap and Porn. I think its safe to assume that he’s very articulate and through, especially for someone who uses English as a second language. If I were the AF, I would just ignore him. He’s not worth your time or energy. Afterall, he has us as his inner circle. Let’s make the most of it while we still can.
You’re not from the USA, are you Steve? Feel free to correct to me.
Anyways, I’m sure AF doesn’t mind me here at all. Thank you for this blog, sir.
Hi Duke,
Thanks for the comprehensive reply. And I am glad that at least on one of you is not as brainwashed and hysterical. And as AF noted, he simultaneously approved our comments. In your everyday life as an Republican, is there anyone you could say that is like you? Any possibility in your community to push against it in any way shape or form?
Yes, I am not from the US, but I spent some time abroad in the English-speaking world. I am from Germany. I don’t know if you have been outside the US, or interacted with other nationalities that much. When I say other nationalities, I mean people that really live there since childhood, not talking about people that are 2nd or 3rd generation whatever that only grew up, and thus only gotten to know the US.
I hope what I am going to tell you will be something very interesting for you and the other “Anglo” people. See it as cultural exchange.
What I, and many other, have noticed is that changes in culture/perception are many times American-driven. What starts in America ends up here. All this on-going, perpetual talk about pedophiles, predators, and groomers did not exist to that degree when I was growing up. But now we get it more and more as well here.
When a 21-year-old gets 20 years in prison for having sex with a 16-year-old that was something I only saw in American movies and television shows. Something like that did not exist in my country. It doesn’t even now. Yes, it has definitely gotten worse in the last decades here as well. Now we, too, have these predator hunters and trapping people, and have these talks about inappropriate age gaps or “power imbalances.”
But let me tell you something that is very telling how the culture also here has changed. So you don’t get the wrong idea, Germany is not “male-sexuality to young women heaven,” but from what I’ve seen it is not as crazy as America is on steroids.
Go back to a German forum a decade or more so ago. We didn’t use these words like “groomer/grooming, predator, power imbalance” etc. I am much more active in English-speaking forums than German. Actually quite rarely, since you have wider/bigger audience with English. Self-explanatory. But when by accident I found German speakers using English words like grooming/predator, you know where this is comming from. This did not exist a decade (and a half) or so ago.
When I was growing up, a pedophile was (usually) a man that like children, real children like toddlers, kindergarteners, elementary school. Not the good-looking, successful 30-year-old with a 19-year-old. Another fun fact, I did not know what the exact words for “age of consent”, “predator”, “groomer” were in German, despite me being a German-native speaker. I came accross them in English at some point, learned their meaning. But then I was like, wait, what is the exact German word for it?
No one in real life has ever used the word “Schutzalter” (age of consent) when we were in our teens (adolescence) and early adulthood. You just knew that a 10-year-old shouldn’t be in a sexual relationship with an 18-year-old, or even a 17-year-old for that matter. I was right on the edge where we started seeing problems when a 16-year-old dates a 21-year-old. Until then it was realitively speaking more common. But I had a conversation with a younger German woman a couple of years ago where we talked about this, and how she was rejected by a 21-year-old since she was 17, and he wanted her to be 18. This would not have happened 20, 30 years ago. It is still completely legal here. That’s why I am harping on that we don’t have just a legal problem. It isn’t just about lowering the aoc by 2 years. I am repeating myself, what’s the point when you can really live and engage in it culturally. In Germany technically I could date a 14 (16)-year-old. Do you think I am gonna stand in front a middle/high school trying to pick up girls there? Good luck. And no. Men (as a whole/gender) need to stop feeling guilty, starting with being okay and publicly admitting they like young, adult women. Again as a start.
Have you heard the “age/2 + 7 rule?” I have over the years from English speakers. According to this stupid, arbitary rule a 30-year-old would not be allowed to date a 21-year-old. Just stupid.
Or something I really dislike is using the word “teenager” as an excuse to slander someone. When you date an 18/19-year-old, people say that she is still a teenager. Retarded much? As if a 13-year-old and a 19-year-old are the same. That is how the numbers in English are structered thirTEEN, fourTEEN, and so on. But they spin it in a way to use it to attack you. Here in Germany we also use the “teenager” now and for quite some time. But again using this teenager excuse is coming from the English-speaking world.
Take a look at this article. The article in German, so please use a translator if you can.
https://www.t-online.de/unterhaltung/stars/id_100748738/lucas-cordalis-frueher-mit-bluemchen-liiert-ihre-geheime-jugendliebe.html
Main points:
– 30-year-old man is in relationship with a 17-year-old young woman.
– This happened in 1997.
– If you read the article, it is quite calm. Not once was the word for pedophile or groomer and whatnot mentioned. I actually like the artice in that regard. That’s how it should be. Given, she isn’t accusing him of anything.
– If it happened now in 2025, then we probably had a different tone, but probably still better than if it had happened in the US or UK.
– Imagine this article came out in the US or the UK. I bet it would be different. Imagine they were in Florida. He would end up in of those pedophile villages, and would be hated, and ostracized. People would want him tortured and killed. And those people who would do it would be celebrated by your news anchors.
Thanks for the reply Steve, you’ve done your research quite well. I’ve read the article using the translation feature on my browser and I must say that pedohysteria is quite the phenomenon out here in western, english-speaking anglo-sphere nations, though sex-negativity has started to leak and expand in other, “socially/sexually-liberal” countries.
When the whole “pedo-panic” started in the late 70s/early 80s, it was mainly about the youngest and smallest of children, like what I’ve read regarding “stranger danger” or “satanic ritual abuse”. Preschoolers, toddlers, elementary and playground students, not tweens or teens. Now, its about every “child”, even if they are not actually “children”. The world has changed so much, that even if society back then stereotypically viewed adolescence as reckless and chaotic, they weren’t considered “kids”, in the sense of how we view actual children. Nowadays, anyone under 18 is considered a “child” or a “kid”, simply because of the lack of legality of certain rights. So, if the law declares them as a “child”, then they literally must be one.
It’s essentially this toxic moralization based on government restrictions. It’s immoral, simply because it’s illegal. That’s how it is now. There’s the “teen brain” and then there’s the magic flip-switch at 18. People use the whole “minor” label for infantility, simply because that’s the status quo that we as a society centered upon. If one has sex with a fully-developed underaged hs student, then you might as well be humping a preschooler too. There’s is no distinction nowadays. Normies will look at this and say that I’m advocating for “pedophilia”, even the “child” in question is not actually a child.
Correct if I’m wrong, but since you are German, aren’t 14 year olds considered “young adults” or “youth” by legal definition? Like, there’s child porn (which is a misdemeanor in Germany, I believe) and then there’s “youth porn”, which 14 and above…
Oh and isn’t there that pedophile commercial that plays on TV in your country?
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/magazine-33484874
Anyways, back to my “republician” label.
Like I said, I’m not your ordinary American “republician/conservative”.
Many reps/cons like to tout they are “tough on crime” or “anti-crime”. I don’t like that, because then it just means harsher laws and sentences without a rational approach. It’s simply “tough” because to them “harsher = better. I don’t like that. I want rationale policies. I don’t want these extreme sentences being passed out like candy, but that’s apparently what the public wants since that’s how many politicians get into office and how the media sells stories. You don’t how often sex offenders are used as scapegoats during election season. I saw the same ad over and over again. It’s fearmongering over “sex predators”. It’s some hag 50yr helicopter mom advocating for registries to keep her kids “safe”.
I’m sure you can see how different the political system is over here in America is compared to what you have in Germany. We’re extremely divided. The news is polarizing and we are at each other’s throats. We have registries, you probably don’t. The “pedo” word has been so common that’s all what it is. Left vs. right and use the “pedo” accusation to smear and rip each other apart.
And I’m sure that you can see why. America is obsessed with incarceration and throwing people into prisons for years, years, years. Politicians and the sensationalist news media claim that it keeps us saver, but in reality, crimes have been dropping for decades and most crimes are non-violent, but fear and uncertainty drive votes and public approval.
I think the US has the most people locked up than other country, or maybe per capita. It’s total insanity. Long prison sentences do nothing but cause mental health issues, grief and struggle for families, on top of tax dollars that vacuum millions and millions of our own pay.
We have people in prison for the rest of their lives because of non-murderous crimes, like child porn. Politicians don’t care. It’s revenge system to pamper the “victimologists”.
Even as a rep, I despise the death penalty, yet so much of my party wants that. I guess I could be seen as “right-wing libertarian” if anything.
Thanks Duke, and of course you’re more than welcome here – as welcome as anybody else.
From my perspective, across the Atlantic, I haven’t noticed much difference between Republicans and Democrats when it comes to screaming ‘pedophile’.
I saw a survey recently that found Democrat voters were far more likely to support laws against deepfake porn than were Republicans (especially younger Republican voters).
For a brief while, in the early days of the Manosphere and the ‘alt-right’, there were a few key figures who were decidely open-minded. For example ‘Milo’, the British gay guy (he seems to have disappeared off the face of the planet). Even Katie Hopkins (a ‘right-wing’ British tabloid opinion writer) was speaking out against the Jimmy Savile hysteria.
I find the discussion as to whether or not Republicans or Democrats are the most paedohysteric to be divisive. And it’s like a mirror version of the ‘discussions’ as to whether Republicans or Democrats are the biggest paedos that you see everywhere on social media and forums. It’s divisive like discussion as to what the age of consent should be. It doesn’t matter. We all agree that laws on prostitution, porn, ‘abuse’, and sex with teens, and the accompanying punishments for these ‘crimes’, are getting more and more extreme and unfair, and target largely men. Who cares whether Anon69 is a Democrat and Duke is a Republican, or that Steve thinks the age of consent should be 15 and Anon69 thinks it should be at puberty? It’s not like we’re anything like close to being a movement that could put forward some kind of official ‘manifesto’.
I just set the maximum thread replies back to 10 (from 5), as it seems the formatting problem is fixed now.
Regarding the “age of consent” law, it must be completely abolished because it is a feminist hoax backed by disingenuous slogans like “brain development” and “protecting a child’s innocence” when really it is about punishing men for returning the flirtation of hot young girls. At most, the law should only be a suggestion, similar to some Eastern cultures and many others outside the Anglosphere until very recently, when feminists and cucks began using the government to cruelly micro-manage a man’s sex life and remove sexual responsibility from girls.
Nature decides when girls are ready to have penetrative sex – it’s called getting their period. And that should be the law for penetrative sex with girls, period. For gays, I don’t know, probably something in the teens works better, but I also knew homosexual kids in grammar school. As for non-penetrative sexual activity, if it’s prepubescent, the vast majority of adult men, including myself, are not interested in this for obvious reasons. A misdemeanor would probably be sufficient under the age of 7 to discourage extremely abnormal activity. That would be the proven “age of reason” as opposed to the fictional “age of consent”.
Men used to marry 7-12 year old girls consistently, and still do in many parts of the world, so you can’t say there’s something wrong with prepubescent non-penetrative sexual activity entirely. Most men are not sexually interested in prepubescents anyway, including the men who marry them. This is something that is not really a problem and works itself out naturally, again for obvious reasons.
If there’s grass on the field, play ball. If she’s old enough to bleed, she’s old enough to breed. Heterosexual sex is an easy one to legislate without feminism.
Well, it’s all pointless fantasy when it comes to asking each other “what do you think the age of consent should be?”, which is why it’s best avoided directly when it could increase the risks to this site (similar with – “should CP be legal?”). Another reason is that it can invite slight paedocrisy as well, even with me. For example, I might say ” well, an age of consent of 14 seems reasonable.” But then, I’d ask myself – “well, the age of consent was 13 in Spain until recently – did I really think it should be raised? Hell no I didn’t!!”
We all agree that the feminist age of consent is too high, and at least as importantly, the punishments for even trivial infractions of it are way too severe (and constantly getting worse). That goes without saying. We also know it’s near impossible to even successfully fight to be it lowered to 14 or 15 in our lifetimes as we discussed earlier. Case in point – 4Chan take down a misandrist app used to control and shame men over their sexual lives, and humiliate thousands of feminists using it in the process, the current title of the post we are commenting under, and I don’t think anybody other than myself has commented on it.
If I correctly understand the misandric app was put to shame after a data leak concerning registered female members. Sadly, the public debate will focus on the date leak (insufficient data protection) rather than on the substantial issue of the app’s misandry.
Yes, that’s already how it’s been reported by the likes of the BBC. At least any company thinking of making a similar app might think twice, and women will be discouraged from using it. The app actually lied to users, promising that the selfies used for ID were deleted as soon as they were verified, lol.
We definitely all agree the AOC is unreasonably brutal and high, and that’s good enough.
That was also a nice win by 4Chan, I think I ignored it because it didn’t affect my situation directly as I will never use any feminist dating apps, so if cucks wanted to subject themselves to being publicly rated by disgusting old fat women, I had no care at all. But, I understand that a blow against misandry indirectly makes all of our situations better, which is excellent!
AF, is there an issue with commenting? I tried to leave another comment on https://theantifeminist.com/british-women-against-sex-with-older-partners/.
But for some reasons my comment doesn’t get through. Trying here.
Sorry about that Steve, I see it was in the spam folder – it was probably the number of links that set off the spam fliter.
I’m travelling at the moment so there might be a delay in approving comments, but I’ll check the spam folder regularly as well. I am getting a lot of spam in there now – which is strange given that Google doesn’t seem to even list my site now!
Another example is Prince Philip who started dating the former Queen Elizabeth II when she was 14 or 15 and he was significantly older I beleive. Prince Charles started dating Princess Diana when she was 16 and he was 29. Yet prince Andrew is getting crucified for maybe having sex with a 17 year old ‘sex trafficked’ whore.
Of course all powerful men will date much younger women, and often teens if they can – that’s been true in all history (and it’s another argument against the retarded ‘MAPs’. I disagree with Jack when he says that they are still banging teens and getting away with it. I mean, if they are, they are certainly doing it undercover and are risking an Epstein type evisceration of their liberty, their legacy, their finances, everything. We just have to hope that powerful men could in some way ‘join our side’. As you say, being unashamed or even proud of dating 17 year old would be a good start!
I’m sorry for asking this, but what did the MAPs argue in terms of this? I thought they (or anyone who has at least delved into history/common sense) recognised that people dated and married at a much younger age. It’s a historical fact and pretty much your typical history buff knows that.
To my knowledge MAPs don’t seem to mention history much at all, probably because it is manifestly full of evidence that attraction to ‘minors’ is absolutely normal. In fact, historically, NOT preferring fertile teens was the unnatural thing.
They don’t ever seem to mention Alan Turing either. I mean this was a guy who had sex with a lad who was a minor at the time (the age of majority was 21), and who is now a modern day saint because of it. You’d think they might publicize Turing’s sex with a ‘minor’, and identify themselves with him. And if they don’t regard him as true ‘MAP’ because the age of majority has been reduced to 18, it just shows how silly trying to create a sexual identity defined by something so arbitary as society’s age of majority is.
The blogger ‘Human-Stupidity’ who used to be the other in the ‘trinity’ of men’s rights bloggers talking about these things, along with myself and Eivind, identified as an ‘epebophile’ and claimed I was one too. He justified it by saying that despite all the evidence from history, men were brainwashed today into not even finding teens attractive. Which itself is so ludicrous and counterfactual to barely be worth taking seriously.
Thanks and gotcha.
Good for mentioning the British royals. I wrote a comment about this a couple of weeks ago. I think Charles’ or Philipp’s advantage was that when they did it, they didn’t have to live in the current Zeitgeist. Wasn’t the late 70s/early 80s still the “golden age” for dating younger women in the UK?
“July 14, 2025 at 4:42 pm
As I was commenting on this riot article yesterday, I had to think about the British monarchy for a reason, and thought there is some interesting history pertaining these topics.
So I looked up that the current British King Charles III and how and when he got together with Diana. If Wikipedia as a source is true, he met her when she was 16 while he was 29, and dating her older sister. Only then to date her and propse to her when she was 18 or 19.
We could argue that she was at least 16 (aoc in the UK) when he met her, and at least 18 when he dated and proposed to her. Now, I think nobody here needs convincing that he was already attracted to her when she was 16.
Like many times before so far I ask again. Can you imagine an average/nobody men or even a celebrity meeting a 16-year-old while dating the older sister, only to dump her to date the younger one in today’s age? If those cretins/age cucks would apply the same standards they would slander and insult their whole “beloved” monarchy.
Side note: Since I am not British, I am not sure how popular the monarchy in Britain was/is right now. British men, chime in if you like to.
With all the age gap/pedo hysteria, there seems to be no uproar, and riots that such a man was able to become king. Again maybe I am mistaken, but from my non-British perspective I have not heard anything regarding that.
If you apply modern’s definition of all these bad words, they would have to call the British King a nonce/groomer/predator.
Food for thought: I wonder if his sons had been able to pull something off like him.
Ironically, Harry went into the opposite direction, marrying an older woman than him that was divorced. He certainly followed the rules of the Zeitgeist.”
My point was more than should our fight for the abolition of AOCs be successful, it will mean multi-millionaires and celebrities will again be able to bang hundreds of hot teens without fearing any legal repercussions. Normal men like us will have to do with left overs (plain teens and MILFs).
Note that even now, it is uncertain how badly really sucessful men are affected. Tyson bragged about fucking women even in jail. Bill Maher confessed to being a randy libertine and seeing prostitutes, which is not even legal in the US. How do hedge-fund managers who rake in bonuses in the millions of dollars per year arrange their sex lives? They don’t go to bed with a good book every evening and they don’t get jailed in droves either. Maybe they stick to strictly over 18s. But that still doesn’t explain why they don’t go to jail for rape, trafficking, etc. A lot of wicked heterosexual sex is being had by successful men in Western countries for sure.
I’m not so sure about this, a good example is that billionaire guy who was caught at the Coldplay concert with his disgusting old mistress. There are many, many more “normal” men in jail for banging jailbait than well-known successful people.
I have also had uniquely new and bad rejections that are entirely the fault of the pedohysteria brainwash perpetuated by feminist and cucked social media. That brainwash is destroying many opportunities. Girls are shit-testing themselves into a very lonely antisocial corner with the help of technology. It’s fun to imagine AI has taken over and doesn’t want humans to procreate, but we know it’s the creators of the algorithm. Case in point, here’s a PUA who’s been around for a while (he’s kind of goofy but authentic), and recently, Youtube has been harassing him non-stop and shadowbanning his videos which used to get thousands of plays:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNv6mdNtIX8
Comment: “Bro, I love your videos, and your videos have been helping me. You are doing God’s work. I pray they don’t delete your channel”
And from my own experiences, a few weeks ago I had a fantastic experience with that young Ukraine girl that I shared, while a few days ago, I approached a local girl around the same age, and she looked at me with utter feminist contempt, confused and offended that a man would have the balls to stop and tell a younger girl he thought she was pretty in public. This is a new type of “inappropriate shaming” reaction, as I’ve been doing this for a while and haven’t seen it before. The worst before was just anger at the inconvenience of being stopped by a man they didn’t find attractive; this is different, it’s colder and more deranged, where the younger girl channels older feminist rage to which she’s been exposed.
I guess what I’m saying is that if there wasn’t a full court press of misandry by corporations, social media and government to prevent older men and younger women from being sexually intimate, everyone’s lives would improve, not just the top of society. Now, no one wins, especially not the top, because they can be blackmailed and have alot to lose (aka the Epstein operation).
You’re exactly the type of angry young activist I want to inspire Anon69, but in order that I can sleep at night, don’t have my site closed down etc, please show a bit more restraint when using words like ‘rape’, and when talking about flirting with underage girls etc.
As far as the young females feminist shaming men for talking to them, I have that nearly every time I approach a woman under 25 these days. This is quite different to even five years ago. I don’t think I look much older or worse than I did five years ago. In fact, I’ve spent a lot of time improving my looks in that period. I can only assume it is because young females are increasingly brainwashed and being turned into man hating paedohysteric feminists, as you say.
Exactly, it’s not always best to assume that younger woman will always welcome the approach of older man with open arms. If one is not careful, the girl can accuse you of harassment. At worst, one would get called a “creep”, because they would interpret that as possible inferiority. Girls can talk shit and slander a man in public, but God forbid a man resent the approach of a woman and criticize her in public too.
AF & Anon69, you are right on the money with this. There has definitely been a big shift in the perception of age gaps or the interest in young women in general over the years. And you can clearly see this reflected on the younger generation, especially women. Do age gaps still happen? Yes. But never before have they been this frowned upon. I already mentioned this in previous post. It was probably never this hard to meet a young woman like it is today. Today you will not just get rejected, but you need to be careful not to end up on a Youtube or TikTok video, and slandered as a pedophile.
I was watching an anti-age-gap/anti-attraction to young women video. Lots of views, lots of agreeing comments that men that are attracted to young women are bad, pedos etc. At the very least, I found some comments that were more nuanced or even criticizing the video with 1-3 thumbs up. They were probably only 1 % of the comments. I got the feeling this Youtuber is more popular with the younger crowd. So yes, the reason why you are getting these reactions from younger women nowadays, is because they have been raised like this.
@AF
In that video there was comment from a 47-year-old British woman. I would like your opinion as a Brit yourself.
“The sad thing is when I was 17 (30 years ago omg) it wasn’t unusual for you to date men 10-15 years older than you. I’m in the UK and the age of consent is 16 (personally think it should be 18). I’m so glad things have gotten better. My youngest is 17 and she doesn’t like the idea of dating a 19 year old which I think is great.”
Is this woman crazy? The fact she is proud that her daughter is not even considering a 2 year age gap is nuts. Times have gotten so bad that even older generations seem to have lost it. I mentioned in one of my earlier replies that we are long past the age where parents tried to introduce their lets say 18 year old daugher to an established 30 year old. That is also a problem. The parents accelerate the pedohysteria, and are glad their daughter is only dating within a year of her age. But when they were younger, then of course time were different.
“I’m so glad things have gotten better. My youngest is 17 and she doesn’t like the idea of dating a 19 year old which I think is great.”
I bet the mother is jealous as hell of her daughter as well.
What kind of crazy world thinks a 17 or 18 year old girl dating a 21 year old man could be wrong? Any kind of ‘imbalance in power’ merely due to age would be so trivial, it’s absolutely dwarfed by things like socio-economic status, level of education, IQ, race etc. It’s funny how women (unless they are far-right) never object to interracial relationships between white women and black men, despite the fact it’s understood or at least a core ‘truth’ in modern progressive societies that black people are inherently at a disadvantage due to racism, historic slavery and prejudice etc. In fact, they are quite happy for white women to go chasing BBC, even newly arrived African immigrants fresh off the boat.
haha I understand. For any idiot out there reading this, obviously I don’t advocate committing any crimes, that’s the whole reason I’m here complaining about misandry and the criminalization of normal human behavior.
I can say with 200% confidence that is exactly the reason, the pedohysteria AND the “human trafficking/grooming gang” hoax is particularly insidious, because it plants the idea that every man who talks to a young woman could be a sex slave trafficker, which is so batshit insane it’s hard to even comprehend. The government began this agenda in earnest after the coronavirus hoax (ahem I mean time period), which was also when they destroyed the useful PUA blogs and told sellout cucks like Cernovich that he had to delete Danger & Play in order to get paid – ie, your timing is spot on.
Meanwhile, girls still guess my age is exactly the same as 10 years ago.
I found an interesting comment from that video by another woman surprisingly. One of the few comment against the hysteria.
“Hot take: it’s not really up to society to decide whether or not someone’s legal relationship is right or wrong. It’s none of your business really, if there’s no evidence of wrong doing.. We have free will for a reason. it’s meant to TEACH US. So if an 18 year old adult wants to bang and marry a 18, 32, or 60 year old human, they’re allowed to have that experience whether you want them to or not. You’re not protecting them by speaking out…you’re actually calling them stupid and incapable of making their own choices, while also calling their partner a pedo. This isn’t about morals…this is about YOUR issue personal issues with age, and that’s a YOU problem. Heal and stop wasting your time being angry about dumb shit. Someone else’s consensual relationship should not bother you.”
Question: Why are pretty young girls recently so eager to embrace deranged male hatred thrown at them by their nasty old hag and jealous cuck authority figures?
Answer: “Young Adults Conscientiousness In Freefall”
https://x.com/mattyglesias/status/1953804763276923323
Google does actually list your site, AF. If you type in your full, unabbreviated AF name + .com, it’s the first thing that shows up, at least for me.
Thanks Duke, that’s good to know. I guess it’s just a case of working my way back up the rankings for things like “the myth of sex trafficking”, “debunking porn addiction”, and “age of consent arguments”.
I stumbled upon this abstract of an article about “the myth of sex-trafficking” published in a serious journal:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/11127197_Loose_Women_or_Lost_Women_The_Re-emergence_of_the_Myth_of_White_Slavery_in_Contemporary_Discourses_of_Trafficking_in_Women
Quote: “This article argues that while the myth of “trafficking in women”/”white slavery” is ostensibly about protecting women, the underlying moral concern is with the control of “loose women”.
This quote brings the STU to mind.
Thanks Jack, I will take a good look at that!
This is a classic blog article on a similar theme: https://thecontemporaryheretic.com/2015/10/31/the-sex-cartel-puritanism-and-prudery-as-price-fixing-among-prostitutes/ He is still posting new stuff occasionally too.
I’m going to make a page to put all these STU and ‘economics of sex’ studies and articles together in one place.
Excellent read here! Hits it right on the head. Although the article needs an update to more fully describe the epidemic of jealous conservative cucks who slut shame women and demonize men with impunity in 2025.
The STU couldn’t do anything without men helping them…
https://x.com/KadafiLeaks/status/1953402508774105592
Interesting. So if you are a nice man and have status in a 3rd world country, this is what happens to you now, done by young women inspired by radical feminist culture emanating from turd technology companies in the USA. Wouldn’t it be funny if we just gave everything to women and let them destroy the world while we played video games and paid no taxes (but occasionally paying hookers of course)? I think I found my new life plan!
Let’s imagine what would happen if the man fought back – I’m sure one of those females knows a violent cuck cartel member, so that’s that. Let’s imagine what would happen if those females tried to do that to a cartel member… oh wait, nevermind, they would be too busy fucking him!
Boy these feminist shit tests are getting intense!
One of the sickest jokes of all in our clown world is that the term ‘femicide’ was invented by Mexican feminists. There have been literally hundreds of thousands of cartel related deaths over the last couple of decades, the majority of them insanely brutal, but because 1% of them have involved men killing women, women are the real victims. Not just victims, but apparently victims of a co-ordinated effort by men to wipe them out akin to genocide.
You presumably weren’t a reader of my blog in the old days, but one of the posts that got the most Google traffic was a survey that I highlighted and that had found that something like 90% of Mexican teen girls dreamed of romance with a cartel member.
“Women have always been the primary victims of war.” -Hillary
Women: Yaaay
Cucks: Yaaay too, honey
And the 10% who didn’t dream about cartel romance didn’t need to because they were already involved in one. Pretty honest survey actually!
Haha, yes – who can forget that infamous quote? Almost as absurd as Eivind believing that women are the principle victims of feminist sex offender laws.
I’ve restored the post I mentioned. It was actually 40% of schoolgirls – which is still an obscene amount: https://theantifeminist.com/40-percent-mexican-girls-dream-romance-drug-gangster/
The original news article is no longer up, but I found it using the Way Back Machine: https://web.archive.org/web/20120211235526/http://crixsus.com/adolescentes-mexicanas-suenan-con-novios-narcos
Have you noticed such articles never last long on the internet? I remember trying to track down a Newsweek article debunking the myth of sex trafficking, only to be told “Sorry, this page no longer exists”.
Yes, I have Jack. I think this article was taken down within a year or so of it appearing – probably because it went viral (which is why my post on it got a lot of Google search traffic).
I just read this article that is on the BBC news home page: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c07p9ng1zvno
Fat, ugly Scottish woman was a ‘paedophile hunter’ even before the Internet had really got going, but was quickly exposed as a crime boss and drug dealing scourge of the community.
It mentions her being on a popular daytime discussion show – ‘Kilroy’ – in 1997. It was discussing the ‘paedophile panic’ that was sweeping the nation. Sadly, it doesn’t appear to be on YouTube. But it shows how quickly it all really got going in the UK. Everybody became ‘nonce’ obsessed almost overnight.
I see the same formatting issue with the comments is still present on laptop, so I’ll switch the maximum threaded replies back to 5.
Once again, I found something interesting in the wild. It perfectly reflects once more the pedo hysteria/anti-attraction to young women hysteria.
I was frequenting a motorsports forum. You might say, “What’s the deal here, what about a motorsport forum?”
It is a site/forum focusing on Formula 1. And there was a news article a couple of days ago. Nothing spectacular, but a 16-year-old young woman (I say woman on purpose here) was elevated to a driver acadamy. That’s not really important, but I want to give some background here.
In the forum discussion, someone mentioned that “she is beautiful.” These were his literal words. He didn’t write anything “graphic,” or talking about having sex with her. Just that she is beautiful.
Only for another forum member to come out and say, “Yuck! The GIRL is 16.”
But he had a great comeback, “Just because she is 16, does that mean she is ugly?”
What am I trying to tell you here? This issue has become so prevalent that even just hinting that a 16-year-old might be beautiful is too much today. He didn’t say she was hot or sexy, and he wants to fuck her. Just that she is beautiful. Society at large wants you to see young women as a grey rock.
But let’s not kid ourselves, when he wrote that we all know what he truly meant. I was thinking the same. In a normal society this would be totally alright.
The young woman in question:
https://x.com/insideFDA/status/1952656144280719492
Just based on that picture, she is attractive. I would date her if it was culturally/socially acceptable. Given that she were interested in me to begin with. Ironically, from a legal point of view I could. But even though I am quite the opposite of these normies and an advocate of men’s normal sexuality, I still would feel the “guilt” that were put on my shoulders from society.
@Duke
I try to split my answers since it would take to long to write right now.
“Nowadays, anyone under 18 is considered a “child” or a “kid”, simply because of the lack of legality of certain rights. So, if the law declares them as a “child”, then they literally must be one.
It’s essentially this toxic moralization based on government restrictions. It’s immoral, simply because it’s illegal. That’s how it is now. There’s the “teen brain” and then there’s the magic flip-switch at 18. People use the whole “minor” label for infantility, simply because that’s the status quo that we as a society centered upon. If one has sex with a fully-developed underaged hs student, then you might as well be humping a preschooler too. There’s is no distinction nowadays. Normies will look at this and say that I’m advocating for “pedophilia”, even the “child” in question is not actually a child.”
Oh Duke, if it was just that. It sounds strange what I am about to write, but I hope you don’t misunderstand me, and the others for that matter too. If people were actually convinced that once you are 18 you are truly an adult, and nobody would bother you at all, then the overall situation would be better. Not perfect obviously since you still have the ridiculous aoc and these harsh laws. But imagine being interest in young adult women would be so accepted that even in upper age you could engage with 18, 19, 20-year-olds without hatred, envy, social repercussions.
Women nowadays are getting so much infantilized that even well into adulthood that they are considered children. You have many people that say that 24-year-old women are children. Being an (older) man that is interested in young women is one of the worst “legal crimes” you can commit for many. Men’s sexuality is demonized by both men and women. “Our” gender has become “uncle toms” to themselves. Maybe we always were.
Do you know how many times I have read that parents, especially fathers, or friends who want to beat up a men because an (slightly) older men is interested in their young adult daughter over the age of 18? Many times. I will post a ton of links I searched randomly. People freak out even about very slight age gaps like 3-5 years. To me that is not even an age gap.
You might say this is more bark than bite. Probably, but the hatred or disgust is still there. Who wants to deal with this stuff constantly?
The more I engage in these topic, the more I think, “Fuck it.” I am glad that I found AFs, giving me the opportunity to express what I really think. I think CityCrusher is right the more I ponder about it. I am not yet middle-aged, and younger than AF for example. But I have definitely reached an age where people would slander me, maybe even attack me, talk badly behind my back just because I still like 19-year-olds just the way when I was 19 myself. And I am defnitely not alone with this feeling.
Good comment from one of CityCrusher’s comment section:
“When you’re 15 and don’t have a girlfriend, people mock you like you’re some defective loser.
But the second you cross that magic threshold of 18—now 19—suddenly, if your body still responds the same way to 15-year-olds, you’re labeled a creep.
Society really expects your desires to rewire themselves overnight all because some guy centuries ago decided to carve time into neat little numbers.
Of all the gaslighting, moral grandstanding, and reality-defying mental gymnastics society pulls on men, this one takes the crown.
As if the moment your age ticks past 18 rotations of a floating rock around a star, your biology is supposed to self-destruct on command, selectively filtering out attraction to anyone born after an arbitrary cutoff.
The same instincts you were shamed for not acting on at 15 now make you a villain at 19.
Edit:
From ages 15 to 18 and into your twenties, libido grows even stronger.
At 23, I feel much more robust and sexually charged compared to when I was 15.
The same stimuli that once triggered a sexual response in your 15-year-old body will continue to do so in your 20s—often with even greater intensity—unless the effects of aging start to set in as you approach your 30s.
To put it simply, if an image of a 15/F attracted you when you were 15, it is likely to attract you even more now, at 23, due to your heightened sexual drive and maturity.”
I just posted a ton of links, and made some comments. I don’t know if read my post, but I will repeat the quote since it fits this reply:
“Why am I doing this?
Simply because I like 18 to 22 years old foids.
I am tired of pretending to like old hags my own age.
I am 44.”
or
“I don’t care what they say.
I am 44 and I want an 18 year old girlfriend.
Call me a pedo.
I don’t care.”
I really would like to know how many men have bottled up their true desires to conform society as not to appear a creep/pedo/nonce/groomer. You might say this is only on the internet. But real people have written this. And I can confirm even in real life over the years, many men are afraid. For some men the anxiety is so great, they can’t leave it to chance that their social circle might think of him as a “sexual deviant”, a “predator.”
Look at all these prison Youtuber and how they proudly say how they fucked up the “chomos.” Even if she was already 15,16. God forbid she was 17.99999999999.
I know very American centric right now, but it is flowing over here bit by bit. Like I also said, we have predator hunters here as well inspired by Americans.
I just posted a video from CityCrusher talking about how Leonardo DiCaprio gets attacked and slandered because he dates fully adult women in ther early to mid 20s. All these people act like these women have no say or accountability as if he forces them. See the pattern? Man bad, woman victim.
What men with dignity and some self-respect wants that?
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I was looking through some “Christian” forum/reddit. Maybe since they are religious and more conservative, they wouldn’t be as hung up about the attraction to young women or age gaps. Oh boy was I wrong. They are like everybody else.
Look at the comments. Yes, some/few are neutral or slightly supportive, but the majority….
https://old.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/1lizdjv/can_age_29_date_20/
https://old.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/1ff12km/age_gaps/
https://old.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/vj4tag/i_want_to_ask_out_a_girl_from_church_but_i_am/
https://old.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/o8ksrh/does_god_approve_of_big_age_gap_relationships/
->Asking about “big” age gaps. For them 3-4 years is a big age gap.
https://old.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/1mly632/my_boyfriend_talks_really_sexually_to_me/
-> Really like this one. (sarcasm) Look how they concentrate on the age because she is18, and he his 28.
https://old.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/12u1nph/can_a_20yo_guy_date_a_16yo_girl/
Read that comment “If a 20 yr old man wanted my 16 yr old daughter I would probably lay hands on him and I’m not talking about for prayer ijs”
All of the sudden a 20-year-old is a “man.” I bet if his daughter was 20 and dating a 30-year-old, he still would infantilize her. He wouln’t say she is a woman, and why does a grown man want to date a “child.” Its gotten so bad that even such slight gaps make people insane.
What the hell? This is so emotionally driven, I just can’t understand these violent fantasies from some of these people/fathers. It is not like he is raping her or beating her black and blue for no reason. She is getting penetrated regardless even if her boyfriend was the exact same age.
https://old.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/12u1nph/can_a_20yo_guy_date_a_16yo_girl/
“I feel the same being 25 looking at a 20 year old. Even though it’s legal, it doesn’t feel right”
-> Now even people in their 20s dating other people in their 20s is wrong.
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https://old.reddit.com/r/Serverlife/comments/1kut81o/help_sister_working_with_pedofiles/
-> Before you read it, what do you think are the ages mentioned in that story? ……………..17
17 and pedophiles………sigh………
https://old.reddit.com/r/AgeGap/comments/1moc213/why_does_reddit_view_any_age_gap_at_all_as_such_a/
“At 18, regardless of legalities, you are still a child.
I honestly dont believe anyone under 30 should be in an age gap relationship. There are social and financial complexities at play, ones that can be difficult to navigate. They are still there later, but to a lesser extent.
Relationships take work to remain healthy, why create more work for yourself.”
-> Now 29-year-old women are too young and dumb to not engage in age gap relationships. And as we know nowadays an age gap is already 3-5 years.
The final question: Is it really worth going through all the effort, when society at best dislikes and tolerates you, or at worst sees you like vermin the needs to be exterminated because of your male desires?
I know just wrote a lot here, but I really want to make it clear that it is already worse.
Part 2:
Look at all the questions if their legal relationship is okay. This is just from one subreddit.
https://old.reddit.com/r/AgeGap/comments/1c9yyb9/is_18_and_36_okay/
https://old.reddit.com/r/AgeGap/comments/1chxfxa/19_and_31_is_this_okay/
https://old.reddit.com/r/AgeGap/comments/1hunjo6/how_do_i_35m_convince_the_parents_of_my_gf_20f/
https://old.reddit.com/r/AgeGap/comments/1e6dxed/was_this_talking_stage_between_a_19m_and_a_21f/
-> I can’t no more. Two years. Like the British woman on Youtube being proud her 17-year-old daughter wouldn’t even consider a 19-year-old.
https://old.reddit.com/r/AgeGap/comments/1cal9lh/is_23f_with_18m_okay/
https://old.reddit.com/r/AgeGap/comments/s4y420/is_our_age_gap_okay/
https://old.reddit.com/r/AgeGap/comments/1cadevw/is_22f_and_35m_okay/
https://old.reddit.com/r/AgeGap/comments/194ql2g/is_a_2year_age_gap_okay/
-> I can’t no more. Two years. Like the British woman on Youtube being proud her 17-year-old daughter wouldn’t even consider a 19-year-old.
https://old.reddit.com/r/AgeGap/comments/wkovmm/is_this_okay_18f_and_26m/
https://old.reddit.com/r/AgeGap/comments/11m6tlm/is_this_an_okay_relationship_to_persue/
https://old.reddit.com/r/AgeGap/comments/12fzbxy/how_can_i_27f_make_him_40m_feel_okay_about_our/
https://old.reddit.com/r/AgeGap/comments/osaych/is_the_age_gap_okay/
https://old.reddit.com/r/AgeGap/comments/hisyze/is_it_okay_to_be_with_someone_that_is_36m_and/
https://old.reddit.com/r/AgeGap/comments/wkrmm8/is_my_relationship_okay/
https://old.reddit.com/r/AgeGapRelationship/comments/1momu3n/is_it_okay/
https://old.reddit.com/r/AgeGap/comments/1moqtgq/this_age_gape_is_too_weird/
Combine everything I have written here so far. Can you “smell” the self-consciousness, the guilt like it is a rotten carcass? I bet that if the attraction to younger women, and to older men in return was at least seen as neutral, we would see many more of these relationships. Imagine a world without the hysteria that has also greatly affected adult-adult relationships.
I have seen it in real life. Relationships were not pursued despite being possible because of the perceived, and maybe in real, (social) consequences.
Remember Raymond? He talked about age gap relationship in one of his videos
One commentator:
“I’m 36 and my gf is 21. I have been called a predator many times, but I take it as a compliment. Successful hunt! Finally, after 8 years alone.”
->Good for him if this slanderous insults don’t prevent him from being with a 21-year-old. Again, the fact he is called something like that in the first place.
@Duke
What I also forgot to mention in the previous post was to explain that laws follow culture. All these insane laws would not have been able to get passed if the culture wasn’t there to facilitate it, at least to this degree. The culture has changed so quickly, it is astonishing.
@Steve – thanks for finding all those great links and sharing them with us, but it would probably be better if you ‘rationed’ the link sharing just a little bit. I don’t want to sound critical, as you’re a great commentator, but I counted 17 links in this one comment – I’m just concerned that Google will mistakenly think I’m not moderating comments and allowing ‘link spam’ and thus impose a(nother?) penalty on my site. And, speaking for myself, unfortunately I don’t have time to click on all these links and properly read them, so I’ll click on 3 or 4 maybe, but then I might be missing the most important ones.
BTW, Duke asked you about the ‘youth’ distinction in Germany (14-17) the other day, but I can’t see if you’ve replied to it. I’d be interested to know if you feel that has pretty much been abandoned in Germany now, or does the distinction between ‘children’ and ‘youth’ still apply to some degree in common discourse, if not the law?
@AF
No problem and understood. This was like a one-time situation adding so many links, with the posts from Incels.is. I just wanted to really highlight what is going on, and how prevalent these problems are, not just with one, but many examples.
I will try to answer the other questions of Duke when I get the time.
Thanks Steve, I understand.
@Duke/AF
“Correct if I’m wrong, but since you are German, aren’t 14 year olds considered “young adults” or “youth” by legal definition? Like, there’s child porn (which is a misdemeanor in Germany, I believe) and then there’s “youth porn”, which 14 and above…”
“BTW, Duke asked you about the ‘youth’ distinction in Germany (14-17) the other day, but I can’t see if you’ve replied to it. I’d be interested to know if you feel that has pretty much been abandoned in Germany now, or does the distinction between ‘children’ and ‘youth’ still apply to some degree in common discourse, if not the law?”
Feel free to do your own research if you wanna go more in depth. I try to give a summary with my own words here. So I am not trying to analyze the laws from every angle, and possible exceptions. Keeping it simple. Also not saying everything is a 100 %.
Let’s start with all the different age groups in Germany.
0-13: child (until and including 13 you are considered a child by law in Germany)
14-15: younger adolescent
16-17: older adolescent
18-20: younger adult
21+: older adult
Continuing with rules that are the easiest to understand:
– Sexual relations with anyone 13 and under is strictly prohibited, and recieves the harshest sentences up to 10 or 15 years max, depending on the severity. No sex with children, period. Compared to America still relatively “mild” sentences.
– When both parties are over 18: Do whatever you want. You can do porn with her, you can pay her as prostitution is fully legal. You can be in a position of power over her, be her boss, her tutor, trainer etc.
Gray areas:
The ages between 14-17 are in a gray area, and depending how you “obtain” sexual relations/encounters matter. There’s also a distinction between younger and older adolescents.
In general you are allowed to have sex with them if you are not exploiting them, e.g. they are in a predicament or emergency situation. Picture a homeless 15-year-old, and you are offering shelter for sex. At least thats how I interpret it. Prostitution under 18 is illegal. So paying someone 17 and under for sex is a big no.
You are also not allowed to be in a position of power and trust if you want a sexual relationship with a 14-17 year old. For younger adolescents (14/15), there is an additional rule. Even if you are not paying, or exploiting her, and aren’t an authority figure towards her, if the younger adolescent is not mature enough to understand what’s going sexually then you are also liable. Picture a very, very shelterd girl that has no idea what’s going on. In our times hard to imagine that girls that age are so gullible. If you were found guilty for having illegal sex with a 14-15-year-old then the maximum sentence can be 5 years in prison. Again, quite light maximum sentences compared to America.
Will continue in another post.
Thanks Steve. Didn’t they only recently close a ‘loophole’ regarding paying teens for sexual services? I’m sure I remember only 2 or 3 years ago reading that they had updated the law to stop 15 year old girls selling their used panties online. Though it was probably mostly middle-aged hairy Turkish men using teen girl’s profile pics, lol.
Part 2
A couple of words when it comes to pornography.
– Like in America, once you are 18 you can do it freely, and as much and hard core as possible.
– Yes, there is a distinction between child (13 andy under) and adolescent/youth (14-17) porn.
– And no. Child porn is not a misdemeanor. It will be heavily prosecuted and can result in severe sentences. If you are convicted of the possession of child porn, you will have a criminal record.
– In general porn with non-adults (0-17) is strictly prohibitted if it meant for distribution and sharing.
– Grey area when the younger person is 14-17. If you are in a relationship with someone 14-17 and you recieve nude pictures (example) of her, doesn’t automatically mean you own youth porn if you keep it private and not distribute it.
All in all, I truly think German law has these topics much better handled than American laws. Are they perfect here? No, but I’d rather have them here then Americans. I really like that here in Germany we have at least the distinction between children and adolescents which as far as I know you don’t have in the States. @Duke Correct me if I am wrong with this. And the maximum sentences are much more reasonable than those in America. Isn’t it funny that you can get a lighter sentence for killing someone there, but if you were convicted of a sex crime you could receive much harsher sentences? Then you have to add the life in prison itself with all the disdain from the other inmates. American judges hand out sentences like its candy, and they are effectively destroy your life forever. Even those that get out in time….good luck from hereon.
Oh and by the way, in Germany we do not have a sex offender registry that is publicly visible. Obviously if you convicted of a crime it will be written down/noted in your record, and the authorities know what you have done. But no one can just figure out that their neighbor down the street was convicted of a sex crime.
In part 3 I will give my opinion in relation to real-life examples.
Part 3:
In Part 1 & 2 I was talking about the legal situation in Germany, but what was real life like when I was growing up?
When I was growing up this obsession with “minors” and “underage” people didn’t exist to that degree like in America and the UK. There were plenty of examples of 15-,16-,17-year-olds with younger man above 18. Now when I say plenty I don’t necessarily mean it was the majority, but plenty enough to witness them here and there in everyday life.
These relationships were in the open, so no sneaking around. Thank god we didn’t (still don’t?) have these overly emotional families, especially fathers, that really relish the idea to beat the boyfriend up because he thinks his 15/16-year-old daughter is still a little girl. I am not saying the parents of the young woman were always thrilled or liked the older boyfriend, but it was not to the degree of a “stereotypical Anglo” (American/British) family/father.
FYI I know I am stereotyping here right now, but as I’ve mentioned many negative encounters/experiences with these topics were with Anglo people. But let me be clear that doesn’t mean that all Germans or other nations for that matter think the same or all are super pro “attraction to young women.” There are more than enough Germans that think this is disgusting. In the end you have those idiots in every nation. Or even supportive people in the Anglosphere like you AF and others.
I am going off on a tangent…I have to bring up the story once more when I was abroad, and British older man in our social circle. He was in his early 40s, and he hooked up with a woman in her early 20s. We all were on the younger side. Many (not all!) British men were quickly calling him a “nonce,” though it was rather “jokingly” since we were on rather good terms. Here it gets interesting since I haven’t mentioned this before IIRC. I can’t recall that anyone of the other Euros calling him a pedo. Were they super thrilled? Probably not or didn’t care, but there was still a restraint or common decency/courtesy not to call someone a pedo even “jokingly” when it isn’t even pedophilia. I also remember I had a discussion with a Brit because he said that 18-year-olds are still children, and I vehemently opposed this notion, just to be called a nonce as well. AF, as a Brit yourself I want to tell you that I also had good times with Brits that weren’t like this. Some of them were also open about their attraction to young women. So I hope you don’t take this the wrong way, and interpret this as an anti-British/Anglo rant.
Back to topic. So far so good right? 15-, 16-, 17-year-olds dating young men in their late teens above 18 and early twenties. But pay attention. I mentioned up to early 20s. I have seen 15-year-olds with 20-year-olds. The bigget gap I have witness was with a 16-year-old and a 23/24-year-old. I have never seen an underage woman with a man in his 30s or even 40s. Keep in mind I am talking about my real life examples. I am not saying they didn’t/don’t happen, but I have never witnessed them personally in my area. And there is a difference with your 15-, 16- year-old daughter bringing home a 21-year-old compared to bringing home a 40-year-old. Even here, back then, the reaction would probably been different. But once again, much better compared to American culture.
I met a German woman and her 14 year old daughter who were on holiday in London over a decade ago, when I had already turned 40. Me and the girl kept in touch, and about a year later, I visited her in Bavaria when she was 15. I can’t remember getting a single look or comment from men, but LOTS of shaming and comments from women, including Muslim woman (one said loudly in German – “It should be illegal!”).
BTW, it was clear that the girl wanted to have sex with me (and the mother obviously was OK with it), but I declined. Later, the girl claimed I had caused her to have low self-esteem because I wouldn’t get physical with her.
Anyway, that was the closest I’ve ever had to having sexual relations with an U16. It would have been entirely legal as well, as the UK had not yet passed the law making the UK age of consent apply to British citizens abroad.
A few years ago, when I was about 50, I saw two German girls in a bookshop in London, and the pretty one brushed her hair and smiled when she saw me glancing at her. So I walked up and talked to them, and they were happy to and gave me their Facebooks. The pretty girl was 16, but the other was a ‘trans male’ (or a girl identifying as a boy) of 20. I kept in touch with the 16 year old and we messaged quite a lot and she was even planning to visit me, but then my mother became ill and died and I sort of stopped communicating with everybodyfor a while. That was probably the last chance I’ll ever have of even having a friend that age again.
Honestly though, I’ve had more problems with girl’s mothers. I remember when I was about 23 I put an advert in a pop magazine asking for penpals 16-30, and a 15 year old (British) girl wrote to me. We exchanged a few letters (this was before the Internet!). I mentioned in one that I was the type to fall in love very easily. I wasn’t even trying to be flirty, but then I got a letter from her mother telling me that if I ever contacted her daughter again that she would “take a more serious approach to the matter”. What a fu***ng jealous hag opening her 15 year old daughter’s letters or reading them.
Yeah, it’s funny that we never had jealous fathers screaming and shouting about older men with their 16 year old daughters. I wonder what has changed in the last 30 years? Have father’s become politicized? Perhaps organized themselves into NGOs? Lobbied the governments in their thousands for stricter laws? Nope. That was all women.
@AF
Interesting. That’s why I mentioned that my story is my (personal) story. And my emphasis was on public dating for everyone to see and know. If you have a difference experience, so be it. Good for you (I mean it seriously, not in a sarcastic way). I think I said this a couple of times: When I focus on other men or fathers, I am not absolving other women/mothers. I definitely agree with you that much of the hysteria is driven by women as well. I am not a woman worshipper. I blame them as well. But when it comes to physicial altercations, would you rather have a jealous old hag to start a fight with you or group of men incited by themselves or women? I think we know the answer.
Because of it, I have to think about your story in London with the younger Asian? woman. As I said, as long as only women give you stares and stupid remarks it is tolerable. Not nice, not pleasant, but tolerable. Imagine these older women would have been able to incite men to bother or even attack you for something completely legal. That’s why I also said that male solidarity or common ground is somewhat necessary.
But I totally agree with you, mothers can be very vicious as well.
When I was abroad I met a Canadian (Anglo) mother with her 18-year-old daughter. Even though I was 10 years older than her daughter, her mother didn’t mind me spending time with her. Ironically, she was relatively young (young mother). First I thought this was a older/younger friend duo or lesbian couple…So for once a positive example in the Anglosphere.
Well, yeah, I agree and that’s precisely why I focus on the hags who are lobbying for the laws and creating the age gap taboos. They’re easier to fight than millions of angry men or 60 million police officers or whatever, even if the hags would be powerless without them.
Male solidarity is essential if we are going to have any hope of changing things, agreed, but I don’t know of any political movement that created a solidarity by constantly complaining that the real enemy was others in their own group. I mean, for example, Palestinians can all agree first and foremost that the principle enemy are Zionists or Jews. Or perhaps closer to home, the incels are able to see that the principle problem is women seeing them as subhuman and preferring Chads.
The age gap taboo is 100% created from the feminist narrative regarding ‘imbalance of power’, ‘sexual exploitation’ etc. etc. It just didn’t exist before feminism. Nowhere. ‘White knights’, age cucks and paedocrites, have of course, fallen for it, and no doubt many are only too happy to as it enables them to give expression to their own vicious sexual jealousies.
How do we create male solidarity? I see no other practical way than identifying a common external enemy (i.e. women or a certain class of women).
I’m not criticizing you Steve, because I realize you’re just sharing your experiences and the problems preventing you or most of us from enjoying an age gap relationship. And you’re entirely right. The fear of physical assault by a male is probably number 1 on the list (apart from the problem we all face of simply attracting a hot 19 year old in the first place, lol).
But for my part, I’m trying to change things in the long-term through this blog, or rather inspire others to start a movement that might change things. So I don’t apologize either for often stressing the things I believe are critical to success.
Meanwhile, you may enjoy this Instagram account that was recommended to me in my feed tonight: https://www.instagram.com/carolinegrouch
She a cute 23 year old woman in a relationship with a 49 year old man. Every post full of vile comments claiming she’s being abused or mocking them for being ‘father and daughter’.
@AF
I never felt criticized or better phrased “attacked” by you. All your points are valid. And I hope you don’t feel criticized by me as I never meant it as criticism, but just a different (younger) perspective. Even then, in many aspects we think alike. We have the same understanding.
“Meanwhile, you may enjoy this Instagram account that was recommended to me in my feed tonight: https://www.instagram.com/carolinegrouch
She a cute 23 year old woman in a relationship with a 49 year old man. Every post full of vile comments claiming she’s being abused or mocking them for being ‘father and daughter’.”
Yes, I do. But do you notice something? You already gave your thoughts in previous replies. The woman is well into adulthood, twenties, not even in her “teens.” Look how bad it’s gotten.
Remember these? I posted them in early August.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/lifestyle/42-year-old-dad-started-31622535
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6338819/Married-couple-28-YEAR-age-gap-two-children-defend-relationship-Channel-5-show.html
https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/7653679/28-year-age-gap-love-paedo/
I like seeing these. Why? Because like many of the other examples I showed, it shows what many men want, but don’t dare to admit, apart from getting it in the first place.
Yes, it is insane how bad it has got. In the case of the Instagram couple, he is clearly a successful businessman. That is objectively a good catch for her. It’s funny, but if she had decided to stay single and make money selling pics of herself on OnlyFans for 49 year old men to fap to, most of the haters would probably think that was OK.
Some of the comments are almost like a parody. For example, I notice a recurring type of comment is to shame the guy as a paedophile or groomer, on the grounds that he was an adult when the girl was still a child! One said something like – “you were already 35 when she didn’t have any breasts! That’s disgusting!”.
It reminds me of the BrassEye paedophile special in which Chris Morris asks a member of the public (showing him a photo of a 12 year old) – “would you date this 12 year old girl now that she is 21?”, and the guy reacts angrilly, shouting “NO WAY! You must be sick!!”.