The men’s rights movement support of feminist age of consent laws can be compared to the black civil rights movement of the 50’s and 60s’s supporting the laws against interracial marriage made by white men.
Of course, the black civil rights movement did no such thing, and under no conceivable circumstance could they ever have been so immoral and stupid to do so.
Yet…we here at this site (and a handful of others) are in a minority when we say that men’s rights activists should not support the jailing of men for having sex with teen girls under the feminist age of consent, just as a supporter of black civil rights should not support the jailing of black men for having interracial sex with a white female.
I would urge again all my readers to spread the knowledge that present day age of consent laws are almost entirely the work of feminists – from their origin in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, to their present day ever more draconian application and accompanying hysteria.
Here are a few useful facts to spread as far and wide as possible in 2014, both within the manosphere and without :
The age of consent in the UK was raised from 13 to 16 in a backward Victorian Criminal Law Act passed in 1885 – lobbied for largely by feminists.
That same backward Victorian feminist bill criminalized not only prostitution as well, but also homosexuality. In fact anything that appeared to threaten or lower the sexual market value of the average woman.
It was a similar story in the USA and other Anglo-Saxon and European countries – with puritanical suffragettes campaigning furiously for the age of consent to be raised, alongside laws against prostitution and homosexuality..
Alan Turing was convicted under the same act of parliament that raised the age of consent from 13 to 16. The feminists who lobbied for that bill had actually sought an age of consent of 21. We recently pardoned Alan Turing for having sex with a 19 year old (when he was 42), and now regard his persecution as a shameful episode in our moral history.
Antifeminists of the Victorian/Edwardian era, including the first men’s rights activist Ernest Belfort Bax, opposed the raising of the age of consent on the grounds that it would criminalize ordinary male sexuality.
These early men’s rights supporters also pointed out the absurdity of feminists demanding that 18 year old women be given the vote and yet claiming that teenage girls and young women were incapable of making their mind up about sex, requiring state protection from men. Increasingly today, feminist dominated left-wing parties are lowering the voting age to 16 and yet at the same time effectively raising the age of consent to 18 or even beyond.
It is not possible to be neutral regarding what the correct age of consent should be. The age of consent is not a ‘speeding test’, as feMRA apologists in the MHRM have claimed. It involves forcing the traumatic and damaging ‘abuse victim label’ upon boys and girls below that age, even if they had sex willingly. MRAs who support the forcing of the ‘abuse victim label’ upon teenage boys and girls are doing so on the basis of feminist laws, arguments, and junk science. In other words, unless you believe that somehow feminists have ‘got it right’ on just this one issue, then MRAs who support the feminist age of consent are child abusers who damage and victimise children.
At the very least, ALL men’s rights supporters should accept that certain issues involved with the age of consent are undoubtedly men’s rights issues. These include the ‘strict liability’ that feminists fought so long and hard to achieve and which has jailed so many men for having sex with girls who lied about their age, and also the continuing feminist campaign to raise still further the age of consent to 18 or even 21 and older.
And to briefly answer the simple-minded objection that the age of consent is not a men’s rights issue so long as it applies equally to both men and women – this is equality of injustice at its most backward (and hurtful to men, and boys)! Interracial sex laws often applied to both black AND white men (for example, in apartheid South Africa), but it was manifestly apparent that the laws were aimed at black men, because it was (and is) more natural and more common for a black man to pursue a white woman than it is for a white man to pursue a black woman. In the same way, it is more natural and common, for basic reasons of evolutionary psychology, for men to pursue teenage girls than it is for women to pursue teenage boys. Furthermore, black civil rights leaders would not be so stupid to accept that interracial sex laws were fair, so long as they applied equally to both black men and white men.
This is why, when feminists restrict and punish normal male sexuality, it is and always will be a men’s rights issue, and those who deny this are either stupid, fraudulent, or simply cowards.
Or, more likely: d) ALL of the above.
Thanks, this is a truly excellent post – I already do argue some of the facts you’ve listed and will continue to do so.
Thank you Alan.
Antifeminist:
“It’s more natural for a black man to pursue a white woman.”
I think it’s the other way around. From my own observations, the black men don’t have to put too much effort into pursuing!
“…than it is for white men to pursue black women.”
To be fair, that may be an untested hypothesis. I’m not sure what the situation is in Britain, but over here the black women are typically quite repulsive: fat, ugly, loud, rude, domineering—Oprah’s pretty much the standard by which they mostly conform. However, I have noticed African girls get pursued by white guys over here, though not as often as other immigrants.
Antifeminist:
“It’s odd that white men who deny that white women find black men attractive usually have no problem accepting that white women do not find Asian men attractive.”
That’s because they overlook another ‘elephant in the room’:
http://www.no-maam.blogspot.com/2004/04/bonecrcker-120-women-pairing-up-with.html
It has less to do with the race of the man and more to do with how big a thug she thinks he is. The observations Bonecracker makes here pretty much square with my own observations. Some of the most racist white girls I know never date anybody but black men: and black thugs at that. I’ve also observed another thing he mentions: educated, professional black guys don’t seem to fare any better with white women than most white guys do. Asians of course are also invisible to them because they are not generally thugs.
I’ve run into that line of reasoning with white nationalist trolls in the Manosphere all the time. They seem to be under the general delusion that all white women are really earthly goddesses who long for the ‘Blond Aryan Beast’. Nothing could be further from the truth. The White Nationalists argue very much like some the femiservative white knights that Rookh’s written about.
Femiservative white knight Thomas Fleming argues exactly like the White Nationalists:
http://www.kshatriya-anglobitch.blogspot.com/2010/09/response-to-thomas-fleming.html
Oogenhand:
http://www.mrafront.blogspot.com/2013/04/how-do-women-from-feminists-countries.html
@Eric
Exactly and that’s what really burns them up – with jealous rage! Those white nationalists and other bigots like them just cannot accept the truth, that their own women DON’T hate blacks or other ‘non Aryan’ types and they, as you say: live under a delusion that they are like themselves. They all WISH they were (racist bigots) but they’re not, so try to kid themselves that they are.
They will probably deny the truth about this to their graves, but it must be even more humiliating for them to even consider the possibility, that their women prefer the ‘model’ (black alpha) male that theantifeminst often describes in various posts throughout his blog here. I.e. 12 inch dicks, high testosterone, fast twitch muscle fiber, dominating popular music and sports, gangs,… The very sub-humans they despise more than anything else! [GRRRRrrrrrrr!!!!]
A bit of a no-brainer to me…
In fact take it a step further, this could well be the whole basis of their racist hate, (good ol’ fashioned sexual jealousy again)…
Alan;
LOL—and what infuriates the jealous white knight-white nationalists even more is pointing out to them that the kinds of women who typically like blond Aryan types are Asians and Latinas—but those women will have nothing to do with racists (and vice-versa). The White Nationalists are like those dumbass MHRM guys who oppose AOC laws because they can’t get younger women themselves and don’t want to see anybody else doing it either!