Anti-Feminist Theory of Feminism

–Before you read this page, check out David Futrelle – patriarch of the AgainstMensRights crowd – and his and their views on gay sex shops selling videos depicting naked 14 year olds being anally raped, made to eat shit, disembowelled, and slowly tortured to death. Even the fucking Taliban would disown these sick fucks :

http://theantifeminist.com/monsterboobz-david-futrelle-disturbing-defence-film-sexual-abuse-torture-children/

Note also the female paedophile Sam Fredericks, who seems to be a typical disciple of Futrelle (WARNING – Be very wary about clicking on hashtags and links on the paedophile Sam Frederick’s Twitter feed) : https://twitter.com/Wyldawen

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Feminism does not represent the final flowering of Western liberalism or of Enlightenment values. Rather, it is an aggressive counter-reaction intended to protect the threatened reproductive and sexual interests of middle-class, middle-aged women in a free sexual marketplace.

Women have completely overturned a 10,000 year + ‘patriarchal’ system in the space of a generation, and they have done so (in my opinion and the opinion of respected authors such as the anthropologist Lionel Tiger) as soon as they needed to. That is, when the introduction of the contraceptive pill in the 1960’s revolutionised the dynamics of the sexual marketplace and impelled women to take on an independent political and economic role to secure their reproductive needs.

Yet, having a society base its morals and social structure upon the primitive reproductive urgings of one sex alone degrades women, degrades men, degrades civilization and, in fact, turns the western humanist world into nothing more than a ‘secular’ and feminised version of an Islamic fundamentalist state under Sharia law.

Actually, men in the west are far worse off than women under Sharia, as at least Islamic law does cater for the basic needs of women (which are largely reproductive). This is why feminists are so reluctant to criticise ‘the oppression of women’ under Islam and often appear to even support it.

http://historyoffeminism.com/a-history-of-feminism/

98 Comments on "Anti-Feminist Theory of Feminism"


  1. Hi there

    I’m writing an article about men and feminism for Standpoint magazine and wondered if someone from this blog would be interested in contributing. It would be looking at why men have never felt it was in their interests to support the women’s movement , with a look at how feminism has disenfranchised men over the years, and an assessment of the current state of play.

    If anybody is interested in contributing, do please just drop me a line on the above email, or call me on +44 779 2141827.

    Best wishes,

    Nichi


  2. I just discovered that your WHOLE youtube’s channel was deleted, what a great proof of liberty of speech !

    Could you repost most of the videos on dailymotion? I am particularly looking for the introductory clip about Schopenhauer.


  3. Yep, and not just deleted – TERMINATED! Lol! I’ve also been banned by the feminist moderators at Reddit/r/mensrights, as well as having a book review removed from Amazon at the request of feminists.

    I still have all my videos on hard disk, so I’ll try to upload them at dailymotion sometime soon. That Schopenhauer clip was part of a documentary series on Western Philosophy. You can download the whole thing from Pirate Bay.


  4. “I just discovered that your WHOLE youtube’s channel was deleted, what a great proof of liberty of speech !”

    What a great proof that he’s definitely hitting the freakin’ mark!
    When you get them up on Dailymotion you’ll be sure to let everyone know they were banned from Youtube right?


  5. These feminists don’t know who there fucking with. They are really trying to push censorship, on informative MRA videos. There will come a time when us men will be fed up with this bullshit. They will know what equality is all about, and I for one am tired of living in world were men are subjugated just for being men. Believe you me these women will pay for their crimes. Censoring us is the last thing they want to do because it will give us more of an incentive to exposure them further more. They will pay for all the murdered babies aborted against their will, all the children being abused and killed consequently, and all the pain men have to endure through unjust laws and the losses of many men fighting phony wars for a misandric government that enslaves men collectively.


  6. “They are really trying to push censorship, on informative MRA videos.”

    Thing is there are still loads of anti-feminist videos on Youtube which are far more (blatantly) ‘sexist’ or ‘misogynistic’.
    So why have his been singled out unless he’s really struck a nerve?
    THEY have obviously been paying attention to this guy even if 95% of the manosphere has not been.
    Any doubts I may have had about this sexual trade union theory have now been completely laid to rest.

    It is now just a matter of extrapolation….

    Why did Christianity dominated the western world for two thousand years?
    Because it served it’s purpose very well. And it’s purpose? To wage war upon the sexuality of men and the ‘upper crust’ of womanhood. Why? To protect the pussy cartel.
    But when religious authority started to erode due to the discoveries of science (especially after Darwin’s publication) it became more difficult to ‘slut shame’ beautiful young women from using their sexuality to their advantage. So in urban areas prostitution began to boom.
    So the not so cute majority of women had to come up with a NEW religion. And that religion was feminism. At first little different from Christianity but with the exaption of cultural marxism it has come into it’s own.


  7. It’s starting to develop into a great theory EWM. You should write an extended essay and post it online, put it on p2p networks etc.

    I think it would be extremely worthwhile and interesting to research the role that female support and conversion played in the early Christian movement and why it quickly took hold of the Roman Empire.


  8. What’s it like, being a chromosomal defect?

    Aside from making you extremely nasty, angry and generally fucked-up?


  9. I came across a comment about the article on the 14 year old promiscuous Muslim girl that was murdered by her mother, and you pretty much said she deserved it for being a “slut”.

    Our children are representations of ourselves. The mother was obviously a nutjob that couldn’t raise her daughter correctly. Her insanity is exacerbated by the fact she murdered her own child.

    No child deserves to be murdered. And I personally think it’s disgusting for you to say so.


  10. What the hell are you talking about it you idiot? In no way would I ever say she deserved it. I’m the last person in the men’s rights movement who would see sexually active 14 year old girls as ‘sluts’ (in a moral way), let alone say ‘she deserved to be killed’ and if there are such puritan psychopaths in our movement then I’ll piss on them in hell. I was pointing out that it was a feminist judge who more or less was saying that in letting the bitch of a mother go free.

    You stupid fucking bitch, learn to read.


  11. Hi theantifeminist,
    I stumbled across your site whilst researching for my current college project. I’m looking into the social effect of feminism on men and your site has some interesting points on men’s rights. I wondered if you would mind clarifying for me the overall aim of anti-feminism and what precisely you feel you are fighting against. Would you say that the whole of the feminist movement has been a disaster or are you just trying to defend men’s rights against feminist extremists?


  12. Gala,
    follow the links on the right side. The blogroll.

    Dozens of sites writing about these subjects. Including my http://human-stupidity.com

    Feminism has conquered the United Nations, most governments:

    Men in Britain go to jail if they do DNA test on their (alleged) children
    Men in the USA have to pay child support for children they PROVED are not theirs

    Men everywhere go to jail for possessing nude photos of 17 year olds (while distribution of beheading-islamic-hostage-videos or gang-clubbing-teen-to-death videos is ok.

    It is not the fringe.


  13. I was going to suggest you to burn them into DVDs. But you putting them up on PirateBay seems to be most ingenious.

    How about putting them on Megaupload or Rapidshare, as I would have to seed back using the torrents and that would increase my Transfer Cap.


  14. “Men in Britain go to jail if they do DNA test on their (alleged) children
    Men in the USA have to pay child support for children they PROVED are not theirs

    Men everywhere go to jail for possessing nude photos of 17 year olds (while distribution of beheading-islamic-hostage-videos or gang-clubbing-teen-to-death videos is ok).”

    Fucking Hell. We’ve been ostricised!!!!!

    Please don’t tell me those first two sentences of yours are true!


  15. What should I be looking for on Pirate Bay (or from any other websites)?


  16. Hi there,
    I wonder if you could point out any feminists who support Muslim women’s subjugation? Because there are many feminists who have the opposite view.

    Also, you seem to have a very muddled cause-and-effect argument about contraception and the rise of feminism. Could you clarify? Women started using the Pill and…what? Started subjugating men? Your argument is so muddled it hardly makes sense.

    Cheers.


  17. Also, you seem to have a very muddled cause-and-effect argument about contraception and the rise of feminism. Could you clarify? Women started using the Pill and…what? Started subjugating men? Your argument is so muddled it hardly makes sense.

    No. I make three assumptions about my readers when writing this blog 1/ they are above average iq, 2/ they read my articles and 3/ they are not feminist/mangina trolls.

    You clearly fail all three of my requirements and hence you are banned.

    Women started using the Pill and…what? Started subjugating men?

    Found that men only wanted the younger attractive girls using the pill, and thus took a more active role in politics in order to close the free sexual market. How much simpler does a theory need to be for you to grasp it?


  18. I wonder if you could point out any feminists who support Muslim women’s subjugation? Because there are many feminists who have the opposite view.

    Can you tell me what percentage of leading feminists have ever spoken out against women’s supposed subjugation in the Islamic world?

    For starters, both Germain Greer and Naomi Wolff have defended the Islamic practice of the hijab. Leading feminist politicians such as the former British home secretary Jacqui Smith have done the same – Smith once wearing the hijab herself – wish the fat ugly bitch would start wearing the burka.

    cheers.


  19. I would actually class myself as one of those “younger attractive” girls. I’m still a feminist. Have you ever met a feminist? Have you ever met a woman?

    I also have a high IQ and a degree from a top UK university. Would you like to explain how someone like me has become a feminist? Personally I put it down to intelligence, political, cultural and religious awareness and personal respect. But that’s all wrong. Right?


  20. If you have a degree then you’re already well past peak sexual attractiveness and in a truly free sexual market most men probably wouldn’t even look at you.


  21. P.S. I love that you can’t answer my other posts! It’s because you can’t answer them, right? Are you worried that if you display them, the knuckle-dragging trolls that frequent this site will finally see sense and realise that you’re an idiot? If you removed them because they were “abusive” then you’re a hypocrite and should probably also remove every article, comment, link and post from this horrendous site.


  22. Yea, all my high IQ readers would drop down like spastics on reading lines of wisdom like this :

    Did you know that in Western countries on average women are paid 20% less than men for the same job? Most people will tell you that this is a much more pressing issue than “OMG feminists won’t let us be abusive, elitist, arrogant wankers anymore!!!!”

    You all need to go and grow a pair of bollocks because you’re clearly insecure about your manhoods.Did you know that in Western countries on average women are paid 20% less than men for the same job? Most people will tell you that this is a much more pressing issue than “OMG feminists won’t let us be abusive, elitist, arrogant wankers anymore!!!!”

    You all need to go and grow a pair of bollocks because you’re clearly insecure about your manhoods.

    Now f*** off you retarded whore.


  23. Scarlett Johansson is nowhere near as hot as she was at 17, and only gets that close because she’s a/ in the top 1% genetically gifted females for looks and b/ because she has Hollywood stylists and the money to buy whatever clothes and cosmetics she wants to.

    Get over it, you’re not attractive, you lose whatever sexual value you have with each passing day, and if you really went to a top uni it says a lot about the British university system these days.

    BTW, in every one of your comments you were abusive towards myself or my readers. I let you go far further than any feminist blog would allow an anti-feminist to go.


  24. Men are no a chromosonal defect lol. MIT have discovered the Y Chromosone is the most evolutionary dynamic part of the human genome. Any changes or advancements in humanity for that matter will come from men. NOT women. With out the Y chromosone there would be no X chromosone and also no humanity. Seems having two X’s is a bit useless dont ya think?


  25. BULLSHIT.
    What the FUCK is wrong with you people? Seriously. Who ate your soul when you were a child? Christ, they must have shriveled up and died afterwards. Which Algebra teacher molested you?
    Or maybe you guys are all a bunch of thick-skulled nimrods. DING! Wow, we have found our answer.
    Look, I can’t even comprehend how anyone on this entire planet can be as bigoted, selfish, and sexist as you animals.
    So what, someone refuses to be your slave. So what, a girl isn’t willing to be your submissive little fucktoy purely meant for breeding. Get the fuck over it. Have any of you ever even met a woman, or are all of you just living on Planet Macho somewhere?
    Woman are independent, and quite frankly, are stronger than men in many, many ways. Christ, they’d have to be, in order to put up with this close-minded primitive bullshit for thousands of years.
    You assholes will never, ever be able to dominate womankind the way you’d like to, and you’ll never win with this type of shit.

    P.S. Are you people gay? An honest question, considering that you guys hate women so much.


  26. Oh wow. A self described mangina. Don’t you just love these retarded assholes?
    This faggot has the audacity to bring up the gay question. How fucking original. Typical feminist cunt. The funny thing, you idiot, is that I KNOW more women who hate pieces of shit like you more than I do. The only bigots here are feminists. Sexist, man-hating bigots who aren’t worth the ground they walk on.
    You people belong in cages with the rest of the animals. Look in a mirror and you’ll find your BULLSHIT!


  27. “Tell me- why is it that people say ‘grow a pair of balls’ when they mean for someone to toughen up? Balls are weak and sensitive. If you really want to toughen up, grow a vagina. Now those really take a pounding.”
    -Betty White

    Just saying.


  28. Anon, anon..

    I’d wager that if your ovaries & fallopian tubes were pulled out of your body, they’d be an even weaker point & more vulnerable than male jewels.

    Of course the vagina was decreed to be tough in planning women to survive in their 2nd most important career… that of the World’s Oldest Profession in rendering service to man after man’s tool of relentlessly pounding steel swooning away the helpmate unto the French “Little Death”. As the French originated the saying “The penis is a shark and must be fed”.

    Surely one’s intellectual capacities are adequate to comprehend that men don’t (& have no need to) excrete an object the size of a cantalope melon through their sex organ, while women do?

    The Originator of the female species decreed there to be multiplied travail & anguish in excreting cantalope sized objects… surely you wouldn’t have “non-tough” women to all perish in excreting the male progeny?

    But do recall a balance for the so called “weakness” of the family jewels was decreed long ago, many thousands of years ago in fact… Namely that if a woman reached forth her hand to grab one of two fighting men’s testicles in order to help the other win, her hand was to be chopped off … I believe the quote from her Creator was “Thou shalt show her no pity”… see. all things balance out in karma.


  29. In truth, I can fully support the right of women (as numerous others here):

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2006/04/15/the-sex-police-state/

    “William F. Buckley reminisces about a dinner in Monaco with Prince Rainier and David Niven:
    “Waiting for the first course to arrive, David Launched into an autobiographical account of his seduction at age 15 by an accomplished lady of the night. The words spoken were lightly ribald, amusing, evocative. Before the second course was served, the prince was a rollicking companion…” (William F. Buckley, “10 Friends,” Forbes FYI, Fall 2000, p. 138.)
    Obviously, in telling this “ribald” and “rollicking” tale, Niven didn’t think of himself as a “victim” of “rape” or “child sexual abuse.” Nor did Buckley, Rainier, or anyone else, male or female, think any such thing. Nor, apparently, did Buckley and the editors of Forbes FYI think any such thing in 2000, when this article was published. And indeed, even today, many people would react like the prince or with a more subdued amusement.

    But if Niven were alive today and had “launched” into this “autobiographical account” as the guest speaker at a convention of “mental health professionals,” social workers, police investigators, victim’s advocates, prosecutors, and judges, virtually no one would be “rollicking,” or even mildly amused. At best or worst, there might be some nervous laughter concealed by hands over mouths. Almost to a man, and especially woman, poor David would be viewed as a “victim” of “child sexual abuse,” and his delight in telling this story would be attributed to “denial” and/or “male socialization.” The virtually unanimous response would be indignation, for many even rage, directed at the “rapist” and especially a society that could brainwash a “victim” and “survivor” into believing he enjoyed a heinous and life-destroying violation.

    If Niven’s joyous “rite of passage” or “coming of age” had occurred in America today and was reported to the authorities, the “accomplished lady of the night” would be sentenced to anywhere from 6-months in county jail, if lucky, to 10 years in prison. At sentencing, prosecutors and psychiatrists would compare his trauma to that of people who’ve experienced warfare, torture, vicious beatings, dog attacks, gruesome car accidents, and internment in concentration camps. The woman would be classified as a deviant and compelled to underago “sex-offender treatment” as well as register with the police for 20 years if not the rest of her life so people could be notifed that a “convicted sex offender” is living in their community or neighborhood. And so, too, with the woman played by Jennifer O’Neal in The Summer of 42. If this movie were remade today, it should end or begin with Jennifer O’Neal being transported to prison in handcuffs attached to a waistchain and leg-irons.”


  30. Except that unlike men convicted of the same “crime”, the woman:

    1) has the sympathy of public opinion and part of the media
    2) doesn’t get raped or tortured in jail
    3) lives to write a best-seller

    The article stops short of suggesting that in similar cases, the young male should be the one going to jail, but it goes a long way towards making the point that the female should not.


  31. How does establishing a hierarchy of gender serve the greater purpose of society? Do we not need both XX and XY to have a harmonious society?


  32. OK, some interesting dialogue. Allow me as a man to share a genuine experience, briefly, to explain to any retard who doesn’t believe the danger of modern feminism what they are up against. I lve in Britan and am subject to our secret family courts – just one of many tentacles of the octopus that is state entrenched feminazism.

    I was a successful guy and the family type, I believed in the ‘system’ and was happy to marry. Having done so, and given life to offspring #1 (otherwise known as mealticket #1) she promptly shagged someone else and decided I should be got rid of. Not just split up but formally thrown out of house on trumped up domestic violence allegations (prove false) but also prevented from ever seeing my child as that maximised her ‘child support’. Also got 100% equity, home, all our goodies and my pension. I was wiped out on the grounds of feminist forced legislation that only needs a false allegation or 10 to utterly destroy a mans life and to set herself up in luxury when she wants a different model. I thought it couldn’t get worse.

    Some years later, along comes wife number 2. Very sympathetic and supportive of years of endless fighting just to be able to see my child. Ultimately, she got bored of how badly ‘we were being treated’ so guess what… she decided to jump on the bangwagon explaining to me that I was weak and probably deserved it. I was not weak, just subject to horrifically anti-male legislation and discrimination at every turn and through every official state body. All the while, my child suffers and screams to anyone that will listen that she loves me and wants to live with me. No body cares, mothers rights surpass the childs 97% of the time (look at ‘contested’ custody case outcomes to appreciate that one, where both parties are equally capabale but the outcome always goes only in one direction).

    So wife number 2 contacts and colludes with wife number 1, outcome is now loss of all three of my children (i from first marraige, 2 from second) and again loss of home, pension, goods etc… But it gets worse. This time they take my inheritance (required to care for my father in a home) as the childs interests (read mothers) are paramount. So she gets my fathers life savings as well as mine. The state then pursue me for my fathers money back, ignoring that a feminist judge gave it to someone else, without any reason. So, now I’ve had orders preventing me from being paid until an enourmous amount of money is paid back to my father by me (meaning I can earn zero income for the next four years – food clearly no required) and they’ve totally emptied my bank account.

    The CCJ’s imposed on me (innocent victim of two utter bitches) mean I can’t rent, set up a business of my own or buy anywhere to live. I rely on male friends sofa to live on now. The lying bitches even spread their false allegations of DV and child abuse (securing hem sole custody of the children) amongst my industry and friends to deny me a job in my chosen profession and to fully ostracise me from society.

    Nearly 10 years of fighting this crap in an anti-male family court room behind closed doors and the outcome? An admission they made it up. No apology, recompense or correction of the curent situation. See, women have won the right to make allegations without any repercussion. This means it’s a legitimate tactic to use against a man to extract every last penny out of him then move on. Screwing men over has now become a state sanctioned career option for the slightly smarter woman.

    This is the case in almost every develped country and it’s getting worse by the year. I shan’t bore you with any more but it’s an area I’ve long researched and campaigned in. The average bloke on the street has no idea what awaits him when he is no longer required or what can be done to him when little missy descides she wants cash.

    It is a truly horrific world we are creating for our sons. Ironically, these women are often mothers of sons and think not for a secod how they contribute towards destrying their own children some way down the line.

    Wake up mangina’s, you’re ignorance will bring you down.


  33. After what “your country” has done to you, you have a right to wish the Taliban to be not defeated, but to win and kill as many US-UK-EU soldiers as possible.


  34. hy can you give me some info if feminism today causes more divorces than let’s say 50 years ago ,i’m doing a report over it and a neutral opinion would really help me out thanks


  35. Below is a table of the historical divorce rates in the United States, from 1921-3 to 2007-9 :

    http://www.thinkinghousewife.com/wp/2010/08/no-fault-divorce-wins-again/

    The statistics do not say what causes the rise.

    Note that feminism can work both ways. On the one hand women are encouraged to file for divorce because for them it is a win-win situation. On the other hand men who face ruin and the loss of their children would try to avoid divorce at all cost.


  36. I just wanted to make sure I was getting this right: the underlying reasoning behind feminism is that when oral contraception became available, men could have sex with young (attractive) women without any long-term consequences (children, marriage) and because of this, older women were jealous that they were not receiving the same attention and thus worked their way into politics and business and academia as… an attempt to scorn men?


  37. That’s rather a crude and inaccurate summary of what I’ve been saying here for the last 2 years.

    They worked their way into politics and business as a means of economic and sexual survival. They were also young when they began their climb up the ladder (individually).

    I’ve never said that older women suddenly ‘got jealous’ the moment the pill was introduced. Much of the early second wave of feminism was sex positive and much of it was carried through by young women. The rush into education was caused largely by the pill, aided by other technological advances – such as domestic appliances, that enabled women to delay marriage and to want and to have careers and an education. But a lot of the sudden politicisation of young women in the 60’s and 70’s was brought about by the rather sudden sexual revolution. For example, despite the pill, unwanted pregnancies actually increased – necessitating young women to politically campaign for the ‘right’ to have an abortion.

    Most of this process isn’t fully conscious, and parts of it lead to vicious cycles. For example, the rush into education further increased the numbers of single young women in the free sexual market (and who were mixing with similar young men, further creating a loosening of sexual mores).

    And I don’t think there’s actually much reasoning involved in feminism, apart from deceitful self-rationalisation.


  38. Thanks for keeping up the good fight. There are so many garbage “feminist” blogs out there seeking only to improve themselves by besmirching men. Let’s take for example, this one:
    http://www.applecidermage.com

    This author apparently has a serious problem with men. While the blog seems to be confined to the media, it is full of half-truths and false accusations. It preaches an image that men are merely “sexually-driven” primitive oppressive creatures, and quite frankly makes me sick to my stomach.

    Keep it up, you’re doing lots of good.


  39. what a joke what ever happened to freedom of speech they let the most vile videos remain on youtube but something that has a valid point is removed because feminists dont even wish to have a two sided argument!


  40. Hey guys, wrote this sometime ago, trying to make it go viral amongst us anti-feminists. Just a display of feminist stupidity i thought might tickle you lot. Have fun reading. 😀

    I usually find that Feminists are prone to being slightly off-kilter in their thinking. They always seem incapable of and usually avoid anything that compels them to do any sort of real thinking. Incompetency in being incisive and methodical are their traits. They are mostly given to being obtuse, obstinate and are firm believers in accepting everything but the blatant truth.

    A great example would be the following:-

    This is an e-mail i received in reply from a “friend” whom I asked to design something for me. She sent this polite reply explaining why she could not. I would like to add, that I offered to pay for said service.

    After she explained that she could not bring herself to complete the project for me, she went on to saying this:

    “As you probably know by now, I don’t like your views on religion, nor on feminism. As friends, we don’t have to think alike, and we don’t have to agree with each other often. We could, in fact, ignore our personal beliefs, and be somewhat okay with each other. I’m totally alright doing that, but you’re just too loud to ignore. It’s difficult. And I can’t help but feel at least a little angry, and really really sad. Not angry at *********, but angry at whatever made you this way. It could be anything or anyone; even you. And I’m sad cos I lost a confidant, as you also have.”

    “You might feel sad for me too, for not having become wiser with regards to life. Or something like that. Not saying you do, but you might. If so, I believe it’d be best if we just left it that way, pitying each other. I don’t like to argue.”

    “Alright, the point of my telling you all of this is, I don’t feel gd when I think about you and ********, separate and together. I feel quite angry when I do, and it’ll make me very uncomfortable to design something for the both of you. Stuff produced with bad intentions aren’t good. I hope this makes sense to you, and I hope you understand.

    I’m sorry if this email hurt/offended you in any way, but I felt it was time to be honest.”

    At first I excused her on the basis that she was after all a sensitive artist. Then I reconsidered what she had said. She basically dwelled on her feelings which were the result of ascribing to the popular notions of femnism, homosexuality and religion.

    So i made the grave error of encouraging her to think out of her box, and perhaps, just for once, try and find out where I was coming from.

    My reply:

    “Just one point. You say you don’t like my views on feminism, but what are YOUR views on feminism and how much do you really know about it? I mean you might not be so into it such that you went as far as reading works by feminists would you?

    If you have, then you’ve probably have read Betty Friedan’s Feminine Mystique, or books by Andrea Dworkin? Germaine Greer? Gloria Steinem, Robin Morgan, Marilyn French, Simone Beauvoir?

    I could name a lot more, but you probably wouldn’t know who I’m talking about, if you haven’t done your research. Save for maybe Gloria Steinem.

    Or are you aware of how many individual waves of feminism there were and what change each wave brought and its impact today? Do you know where their statistics come from? Can you name the various organisations in America that are now wreaking havoc there?

    Or have you read books by Christian Hoff Summers, Laura Schlessinger, Caroline Graglia, Katherine Parker, Lionel Tiger, Susan Venker, Camille Paglia or Phyllis Schafly, Harvey C. Mansfield, Danielle Crittenden and completely disagreed with their each and every one of their views? These people are by the way the anti-feminists whose books I have been reading.

    Maybe you think I just pulled out my views from thin air or maybe you think it was formed by watching a few too many of the wrong YouTube videos?

    To the contrary, hours and hours of research and burnt weekends have gone into this. Our weekends are spent doing research in the library and recommending books to them so that we can people exposed to truths about feminism, by the way. It’s been months since I watched TV or went to a movie.

    My interest comes from wanting to find out what caused the problems in society today. I’m interested in saving marriages, men, women and children as a whole. I’m interested in people, and for things to change, you have to tackle the root problem. The root problem is feminism. Not what it used to be, but what it is today. If you don’t confront it our children are at stake.

    How do you claim to support something if you don’t know everything about it? Whose agenda you are not completely aware of? I suggest before you get angry with me, you go and get books by feminists, read them and then read the books by anti-feminists, form an independent opinion and then get angry with me. Now that would be justified.

    That is the mark of an objective mind. Something most women lack. Especially the feminists. You want to smarter than the average Jill? This is what you do.

    But most of all, I suggest you read books by Helen Andelin.

    Actually, I demand that you go and read all of these books and make your own judgment. You’re a friend I love too much to sacrifice to the stupidity of the world, and I think too highly of you to simply leave you unchallenged.

    I marvel at the efforts you went to, to not hurt my feelings in writing your e-mail to me. It made me smile more than feel hurt. You’re just too smart to not see through all the propaganda …”

    BIG MISTAKE.

    Never, never encourage a liberal to think. Never, never engage a liberal in discussion or seek to reason with them using facts, or any sort of logic.

    At all.

    ” To be honest, i don’t care what books say. I have no time for books, tv, or anything much else cos my days are filled with ppl. I cannot research endlessly to have facts kept in my mind to fight causes. And i am fine with that cos when you know something is right or wrong, you know it. Just like when you witness a murder, you know it’s wrong. And nope, that isn’t an extreme comparison. I don’t need a list of authors to tell me how much it affects the entire family when one woman is oppressed, even in a place like Singapore, or that hate among religions kills, or that openly hating homosexuality is similar to racism, and in very very bad taste. The major problems that the world faces are unemployment, poverty, over-population and global warming. If you really want to actively support a cause, support something that will take humanity a step forward. If you honestly want to take a solid stand, gender and religion issues aren’t global enough. Forget our children, the world has to survive first. Why don’t you put your time and energy into something useful like those urgent issues, instead of harping on being anti-something? Promote something that is truly important.

    Reading up doesn’t make you smarter than average. Come on lah, if so, any jill can be a smart-ass if she tried. You are wise when your judgements are wise. The ability to make good judgements don’t come from research and you have proven this further to me. I don’t care enough to strive to be smarter than the average jill, btw. I am happy with my thought processes cos they are logical, esp with regards to basic human rights. no need to go to the library to validate them cos they are rational and logical, plain and simple. I am aware that you have implied on a few occasions that one wld fall in love with me only for my face. In case you feel like you need to deny it, it’ll be fruitless cos i’ve heard of this from a few ppl. I didn’t care much back then but now, your attitude is really getting on my nerves, and i have to tell you this; respect is very very important. it does not matter what you believe in, and i told you that in my previous email. If you cld learn to respect an individual’s wish to stay stupid in your opinion, you wld at least gain some respect, or, not lose any. In the same way, let my beliefs be. I respected you enough to not argue with you unless you did. Try that, seriously.”

    To which I unwisely lost my objectivity (slightly), and replied in this fashion:

    ” This isn’t an argument, I’m not arguing, I’m simply just letting you kow my POV. That’s all.

    1.”my days are filled with ppl” – Implying that you care about people. No difference here. Doctors don’t get people healed simply by spending time with them, they need the knowledge to cure their ailments. That is the purpose behind all of my reading.

    2.”when you know something is right or wrong, you know it.” – precisely why i even started researching, because I wanted to know for sure what I felt was wrong was really wrong, since popular opinion says otherwise.

    3.”Just like when you witness a murder, you know it’s wrong.” – You say homosexuality is natural. Do you know that things like paedophilia and murders (i.e. the kind some people commit, you know the serial killer kind) are also becaus ethey are inclined to do it? It really is in their “genes”.Yet, they are incarcerated, and society does not condone their actions. Yet THEY are called upon to supress their inner inclinations. Homosexuals once were too, until they started getting support for it. You could say that the law changed once people saw the error of their ways the same way they did for slavery.Here’s a interesting point to note though, the same group people who fight against homosexuality today are the same group of people who fought to liberate the slaves at risk to their own lives. Their beliefs and personalities have not changed. They still stand for the same things they at the time when the fought for slavery to be abolished.

    4. “I don’t need a list of authors to tell me how much it affects the entire family when one woman is oppressed” – Do you even know what oppression is? What would you term as oppression?

    5. “hate among religion kills” – that’s strange, who’s the one doing the hating again? Eh, Christian fundamentalists will give you headache. Fundamentalists belonging to other religions will cut your head off altogether. You have not bothered to study demographics, understand where the media comes from and why they paint the picture the way they do, neither have you understood how and why things are working in the way that they do now. All of this by the way, is from a secular point of view. You don’t feel compelled to go and find out, that’s your choce, but don’t mock the people who are genuinely concerned and ask them to ascribe to your own state of ignorance. To you, ignorance keeps everyone happy, but it was this very same ignorance that brought America to its knees, and it is this very same ignorance that people like Walid Shoebat and other ex-terrorists are working to snap people out of. I didn’t have to go too far, there is an ex-muslim lawyer who works in the same law firm that i do who is now christian. Are you telling me you wished these people would be quiet instead?

    6. “The major problems that the world faces are unemployment, poverty, over-population and global warming. If you really want to actively support a cause, support something that will take humanity a step forward. If you honestly want to take a solid stand, gender and religion issues aren’t global enough. Forget our children, the world has to survive first. Why don’t you put your time and energy into something useful like those urgent issues, instead of harping on being anti-something? Promote something that is truly important.”- Ok here’s the thing, I started doing research on those things, put in my application with UNICEF, been on a hunger strike, done the recycling (still do)and sung “Kumbaya” WAY before you even came to pay attention to those things in the media.Gender and religion issues are NOT global enough? I’m not even going to bother telling you why that is such a weird statement. BY THE WAY, unemployment, poverty, over-population- these are all symptoms of the condition of the human heart. I aleady told you why it’s important to tackle the root cause. Why do you think unemployment exists? Why do you think poverty exists? Over-population? What do you think that is a result of. It is PRECISELy because you fail to understand how society, economy and other such things work that you think that these issues are in no way inter-connected and are of themselves individual issues.

    7. “Reading up doesn’t make you smarter than average. Come on lah, if so, any jill can be a smart-ass if she tried. You are wise when your judgements are wise. The ability to make good judgements don’t come from research and you have proven this further to me. I don’t care enough to strive to be smarter than the average jill, btw. I am happy with my thought processes cos they are logical, esp with regards to basic human rights. no need to go to the library to validate them cos they are rational and logical, plain and simple.” – Don’t go to school anymore, don’t study any more I mean, for what? You can survive on your own judgments, thought processes and logic, you don’t need to learn any more. All you know of basic human rights is what the media and people around you tell you. Basically what you’re telling me is that you think you’re right, and you don’t care what anyone else has to say. Where did such arrogance come from? I have NEVER dared say anything about anything unless I was sure I am compleletely informed.

    8. “I am aware that you have implied on a few occasions that one wld fall in love with me only for my face. In case you feel like you need to deny it, it’ll be fruitless cos i’ve heard of this from a few ppl. I didn’t care much back then but now, your attitude is really getting on my nerves, and i have to tell you this; respect is very very important. it does not matter what you believe in, and i told you that in my previous email. If you cld learn to respect an individual’s wish to stay stupid in your opinion, you wld at least gain some respect, or, not lose any. In the same way, let my beliefs be. I respected you enough to not argue with you unless you did. Try that, seriously.” – WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. My dear lady, let me tell you something, all this time, I only ever thought were beautiful as you were because of your PERSONALITY. I describe you as gentle, kind, sensible, and feminine to whoever asks (especially *********), AND THOSE were the qualities that I thought made you beautiful in my eyes. Because in case you think that you REALLY are Aishwarya Rai, I have news for you. Unlike, other people in your life I get around, I see LOADS of girls who happen to be SO breathtakingly beautiful, they will probably never need make up for the rest of their natural lives or anything really.I just don’t think too highly of them, as i did of you, simply by virtue of the fact that they had sucky personalities. In case you didn’t read my previous e-mail to you carefully enough, I told you I happen to think highly of you and that i think you’re different from all those other people out there who think they know everything. You want to stick to your beliefs because you’re afraid of offending others. I mean, let’s look at it this way. YOu care about the rights of the homosexual, the feminist, person of other religions. And yet, you have no qualms about telling me stuff a sock in it. You can accept ALL of these people, but not me, a girl who has been your friend for at least almost a decade. Why? because I’m unpopular. You rather have the friendship of the majority, then me. Oh it would have so easy, if I had just KEPT QUIET, but darn it, i wouldn’t and so, It makes you angry. What sort of friendship cannot even survive opposing views? What kind of love is that? I never knew you to be such an ardent supporter of the homosexuals and the feminists. Did it never occur to you to trust me? And yet you have called me a friend for so many years, and you cannot even offer me a certain level of trust or even an attempt to find out why I think this way. YOU have no respect for me to do even that. But you want me to respect you enough to leave you alone. REAL friends don’t just leave their friends to join the rest of the sheep in doing group think the way you are. It is clear what you value. Popularity, being liked by others, being praised for holding popular views, the number of friends on your facebook. You think we don’t care about people, but this is precisely BECAUSE we do. let me ask you a question, would you spend your spare time, whatever little you have, talking to boys who’ve joined gangs and are ruining their lives, and helping them get out of it the way ********* does? Would you even care to spend five minutes massaging the feet of some unrelated old lady because she is suffering in pain?

    You don’t go around boasting about these things. What your right hand does, your left hand should not know.

    Don’t think you do or would.

    By the way, it’s the said old lady, who told me that a friend who doesn’t stick by you for your views, no matter whether she agrees with you or not, is not a real friend at all.

    I don;t have the heart to remove you from FB, because I still love you as a friend no matter what. but it sounds like you’ve had enough. So I wouldn’t mind if you went ahead and did it.

    Loyalty, try that, seriously.”

    BIG BIG BIG Mistake.

    “I knew you’d give me yet another essay! With my reply dissected, that too in numbered points. Niiice. I think I shall do the same, except I’ll omit the numbering and responding to specific parts and shit. It’s quite cold here. Lazy lah.

    – what I thought while I first read all that was hahaha gd one blah blah blah there she goes again blah blah blah wtf, did she just insult me again blah blah oh nooo not this ridiculous point again BLAH BLAH BLAH ooo, another insult yadda yadda insult insult yakkety yakkety yak ah she praises her husband and belittles me and asks me to try out loyalty when she knows whack about it.

    notice there’re lots of ‘again’s? I’m tired of going back and forth with you. when I fight with my bf, we go in circles instead. you’re way way waaaaaaaay worse.

    – you work in a law firm and handle divorce cases and have done tons of research, and you’re a wife, so you apparently know some stuff. I’ve heard this so many times, and I’d be damn happy if I had a dollar each time I heard it. Cos I’d then have passed each dollar to you to please shut up. You really think you know better than someone like my mom, or sisters or other sane women? Think again lah. Oh wait…that’ll probably be no use. Your thoughts are soaked.

    – a while ago, you tagged me in a note abt homosexuality. I don’t seem to be able to remove my tag cos of bloody fb. 🙁 anyway. THAT WAS DAMN IRRITATING. I’d not even replied to your long essay, and you tag me in another one of your bloody train crash masterpieces. Why don’t you just leave me alone? TRY THAT, SERIOUSLY. Please?

    – I used to listen to you talk abt christianity back then, and I’d just take them as random volunteered info, since I don’t share your beliefs. You started talking a little about Hinduism for a really brief while, afterwhich you went all Jew. And you’ve succeeded in going a few levels up the crazy scale.

    – I really really reeeaaallly never cared what religion you believed in, and nvr cared abt your beliefs. I took you as a human being, and person with a heart, a friend with whom I cld maybe have a rewarding friendship with, with religion not even being brought up. That concept is probably so alien to you, you’re going ‘what, no talk abt radical beliefs? that’s my bloody forte!!’

    – The above-mentioned point is why I can’t stand you now. You go on and on and on about all that you’ve learnt doing whatever research you do, and it’s soooo tiring. Fine, you have different beliefs. Up to you ofcos, and ofcos, I don’t care. But you keep harping on them. Provoking at first, but it gets boring eventually. SO BORING.

    – you know me, I’m a very very nice, patient person. For me to talk like this to you, you’d have to have acted like a real ass. I’m actually quite amazed, you did it!

    – you’ve been doing stupid things for a long time. One such example is the one where you sent Jay and me a video about relationships, after I’d dumped him. Back then, I wondered, wtf is wrong with her? Now I know a bit btr. You’re just prone to doing stupid things.

    – You were the same many years ago, and you are the same now. Nothing wld go into your head. I washed my hands off you last yr. You started showcasing your senselessness on FB, and I washed my hands off you even further, if that’s possible. Don’t tell me I don’t help people cos the amount of effort I put into talking to you, I’d have bloody helped 5 gangsters get back on track.

    – Don’t you dare imply that ******** is a better person than I am. And what’s this thing about massaging an old lady’s foot? Aren’t you kinda boasting? ‘My ***** is so great, he’s so damn kind, he massaged a foot.’ What your right hand does, your left hand should not know? My foot lah.

    – That old lady is right. I tried to be your friend, but you were just too loud with your views. You know I can’t stand them. When I suggest agreeing to disagree, you send me essays filled with statistics and whatshitnot. Again I think, wtf is wrong with her? You won’t leave me alone with my views. Hence, I don’t mind being a bad friend, if that’s what this makes me.

    – It’s amusing when you ask me base questions like, whether I know what oppression means. Wtf is that? You’re insulting yourself by insulting me, y’know. You’re making it obvious that you think you’re so much more aware. Now I have news for you. You can stuff your awareness when bad smells lurk cos you lack the ability to judge a situation correctly because of your biasedness. Stop telling people to open their minds. Work on yours first. I can foresee you being ignored by the general population that you often mentioned. Not cos be ascribe to popular ideas, but because our morals, when it comes to the big picture, are in place. And it starts with me. I’m going to ignore you, now on. Okay, I bet a number of them already have started, but I’ll just make myself feel special here.

    Kindly ignore any communication from me after this mail as I’m sure it’d be pesky spam.”

    Hmmm, well, I did apologise for anything mean I said over a text message and eased her of the burden of being my friend. 10 years and that is all it came down to. Profoundly saddening, but, it makes a great case study nonetheless.

    Only a liberal could date a man for six years, get married to him, cheat on him while still married to him (with current boyfriend), get her marriage annulled, then turn around and deride someone else for mere changes of mind she has had over the years and consider THAT unethical and harmful to everyone around.

    Just for your information, what probably had her ticking with annoyance and refusing to design the project I asked her to, would be the text I wanted included in the design to be given as a Birthday present to my husband.

    “Follower of the Lion of Judah, Son of Eretz Israel and Warrior for the cause of Zion.”

    This is a celebration of another year of wisdom added to the great man you are fast becoming.

    This is a small tribute to you, for the great man that you already are.

    May you lead your life as the noble Lion does, a King of his home, an embodiment of strength and a symbol of righteousness.

    Let your light so shine before men that they may see your good works and glorify your Father which is in Heaven.

    Let your courage shine forth as you battle for the cause, that when that day of reckoning arrives, I may rejoice in hearing these words said unto you-

    “Behold, my servant whom I have chosen, my beloved in whom my soul is well pleased.”

    In it I shall rejoice knowing that I had the honour of having had a small part to play.

    Wishing you the Happiest of Twenty-Second Birthdays, to ___________________ the Lion-Hearted.

    Your Help Meet,

    Tehillah Ratnam”

    I mean, all that love for a mere man?

    Must have had her feminist blood boiling.

    ***the letters have been editted to protect identities and personal information***


  41. I usually find that Feminists are prone to being slightly off-kilter in their thinking. They always seem incapable of and usually avoid anything that compels them to do any sort of real thinking. Incompetency in being incisive and methodical are their traits. They are mostly given to being obtuse, obstinate and are firm believers in accepting everything but the blatant truth.

    A great example would be the following:-

    This is an e-mail i received in reply from a “friend” whom I asked to design something for me. She sent this polite reply explaining why she could not. I would like to add, that I offered to pay for said service.

    After she explained that she could not bring herself to complete the project for me, she went on to saying this:

    “As you probably know by now, I don’t like your views on religion, nor on feminism. As friends, we don’t have to think alike, and we don’t have to agree with each other often. We could, in fact, ignore our personal beliefs, and be somewhat okay with each other. I’m totally alright doing that, but you’re just too loud to ignore. It’s difficult. And I can’t help but feel at least a little angry, and really really sad. Not angry at *********, but angry at whatever made you this way. It could be anything or anyone; even you. And I’m sad cos I lost a confidant, as you also have.”

    “You might feel sad for me too, for not having become wiser with regards to life. Or something like that. Not saying you do, but you might. If so, I believe it’d be best if we just left it that way, pitying each other. I don’t like to argue.”

    “Alright, the point of my telling you all of this is, I don’t feel gd when I think about you and ********, separate and together. I feel quite angry when I do, and it’ll make me very uncomfortable to design something for the both of you. Stuff produced with bad intentions aren’t good. I hope this makes sense to you, and I hope you understand.

    I’m sorry if this email hurt/offended you in any way, but I felt it was time to be honest.”

    At first I excused her on the basis that she was after all a sensitive artist. Then I reconsidered what she had said. She basically dwelled on her feelings which were the result of ascribing to the popular notions of femnism, homosexuality and religion.

    So i made the grave error of encouraging her to think out of her box, and perhaps, just for once, try and find out where I was coming from.

    My reply:

    “Just one point. You say you don’t like my views on feminism, but what are YOUR views on feminism and how much do you really know about it? I mean you might not be so into it such that you went as far as reading works by feminists would you?

    If you have, then you’ve probably have read Betty Friedan’s Feminine Mystique, or books by Andrea Dworkin? Germaine Greer? Gloria Steinem, Robin Morgan, Marilyn French, Simone Beauvoir?

    I could name a lot more, but you probably wouldn’t know who I’m talking about, if you haven’t done your research. Save for maybe Gloria Steinem.

    Or are you aware of how many individual waves of feminism there were and what change each wave brought and its impact today? Do you know where their statistics come from? Can you name the various organisations in America that are now wreaking havoc there?

    Or have you read books by Christian Hoff Summers, Laura Schlessinger, Caroline Graglia, Katherine Parker, Lionel Tiger, Susan Venker, Camille Paglia or Phyllis Schafly, Harvey C. Mansfield, Danielle Crittenden and completely disagreed with their each and every one of their views? These people are by the way the anti-feminists whose books I have been reading.

    Maybe you think I just pulled out my views from thin air or maybe you think it was formed by watching a few too many of the wrong YouTube videos?

    To the contrary, hours and hours of research and burnt weekends have gone into this. Our weekends are spent doing research in the library and recommending books to them so that we can people exposed to truths about feminism, by the way. It’s been months since I watched TV or went to a movie.

    My interest comes from wanting to find out what caused the problems in society today. I’m interested in saving marriages, men, women and children as a whole. I’m interested in people, and for things to change, you have to tackle the root problem. The root problem is feminism. Not what it used to be, but what it is today. If you don’t confront it our children are at stake.

    How do you claim to support something if you don’t know everything about it? Whose agenda you are not completely aware of? I suggest before you get angry with me, you go and get books by feminists, read them and then read the books by anti-feminists, form an independent opinion and then get angry with me. Now that would be justified.

    That is the mark of an objective mind. Something most women lack. Especially the feminists. You want to smarter than the average Jill? This is what you do.

    But most of all, I suggest you read books by Helen Andelin.

    Actually, I demand that you go and read all of these books and make your own judgment. You’re a friend I love too much to sacrifice to the stupidity of the world, and I think too highly of you to simply leave you unchallenged.

    I marvel at the efforts you went to, to not hurt my feelings in writing your e-mail to me. It made me smile more than feel hurt. You’re just too smart to not see through all the propaganda …”

    BIG MISTAKE.

    Never, never encourage a liberal to think. Never, never engage a liberal in discussion or seek to reason with them using facts, or any sort of logic.

    At all.

    ” To be honest, i don’t care what books say. I have no time for books, tv, or anything much else cos my days are filled with ppl. I cannot research endlessly to have facts kept in my mind to fight causes. And i am fine with that cos when you know something is right or wrong, you know it. Just like when you witness a murder, you know it’s wrong. And nope, that isn’t an extreme comparison. I don’t need a list of authors to tell me how much it affects the entire family when one woman is oppressed, even in a place like Singapore, or that hate among religions kills, or that openly hating homosexuality is similar to racism, and in very very bad taste. The major problems that the world faces are unemployment, poverty, over-population and global warming. If you really want to actively support a cause, support something that will take humanity a step forward. If you honestly want to take a solid stand, gender and religion issues aren’t global enough. Forget our children, the world has to survive first. Why don’t you put your time and energy into something useful like those urgent issues, instead of harping on being anti-something? Promote something that is truly important.

    Reading up doesn’t make you smarter than average. Come on lah, if so, any jill can be a smart-ass if she tried. You are wise when your judgements are wise. The ability to make good judgements don’t come from research and you have proven this further to me. I don’t care enough to strive to be smarter than the average jill, btw. I am happy with my thought processes cos they are logical, esp with regards to basic human rights. no need to go to the library to validate them cos they are rational and logical, plain and simple. I am aware that you have implied on a few occasions that one wld fall in love with me only for my face. In case you feel like you need to deny it, it’ll be fruitless cos i’ve heard of this from a few ppl. I didn’t care much back then but now, your attitude is really getting on my nerves, and i have to tell you this; respect is very very important. it does not matter what you believe in, and i told you that in my previous email. If you cld learn to respect an individual’s wish to stay stupid in your opinion, you wld at least gain some respect, or, not lose any. In the same way, let my beliefs be. I respected you enough to not argue with you unless you did. Try that, seriously.”

    To which I unwisely lost my objectivity (slightly), and replied in this fashion:

    ” This isn’t an argument, I’m not arguing, I’m simply just letting you kow my POV. That’s all.

    1.”my days are filled with ppl” – Implying that you care about people. No difference here. Doctors don’t get people healed simply by spending time with them, they need the knowledge to cure their ailments. That is the purpose behind all of my reading.

    2.”when you know something is right or wrong, you know it.” – precisely why i even started researching, because I wanted to know for sure what I felt was wrong was really wrong, since popular opinion says otherwise.

    3.”Just like when you witness a murder, you know it’s wrong.” – You say homosexuality is natural. Do you know that things like paedophilia and murders (i.e. the kind some people commit, you know the serial killer kind) are also becaus ethey are inclined to do it? It really is in their “genes”.Yet, they are incarcerated, and society does not condone their actions. Yet THEY are called upon to supress their inner inclinations. Homosexuals once were too, until they started getting support for it. You could say that the law changed once people saw the error of their ways the same way they did for slavery.Here’s a interesting point to note though, the same group people who fight against homosexuality today are the same group of people who fought to liberate the slaves at risk to their own lives. Their beliefs and personalities have not changed. They still stand for the same things they at the time when the fought for slavery to be abolished.

    4. “I don’t need a list of authors to tell me how much it affects the entire family when one woman is oppressed” – Do you even know what oppression is? What would you term as oppression?

    5. “hate among religion kills” – that’s strange, who’s the one doing the hating again? Eh, Christian fundamentalists will give you headache. Fundamentalists belonging to other religions will cut your head off altogether. You have not bothered to study demographics, understand where the media comes from and why they paint the picture the way they do, neither have you understood how and why things are working in the way that they do now. All of this by the way, is from a secular point of view. You don’t feel compelled to go and find out, that’s your choce, but don’t mock the people who are genuinely concerned and ask them to ascribe to your own state of ignorance. To you, ignorance keeps everyone happy, but it was this very same ignorance that brought America to its knees, and it is this very same ignorance that people like Walid Shoebat and other ex-terrorists are working to snap people out of. I didn’t have to go too far, there is an ex-muslim lawyer who works in the same law firm that i do who is now christian. Are you telling me you wished these people would be quiet instead?

    6. “The major problems that the world faces are unemployment, poverty, over-population and global warming. If you really want to actively support a cause, support something that will take humanity a step forward. If you honestly want to take a solid stand, gender and religion issues aren’t global enough. Forget our children, the world has to survive first. Why don’t you put your time and energy into something useful like those urgent issues, instead of harping on being anti-something? Promote something that is truly important.”- Ok here’s the thing, I started doing research on those things, put in my application with UNICEF, been on a hunger strike, done the recycling (still do)and sung “Kumbaya” WAY before you even came to pay attention to those things in the media.Gender and religion issues are NOT global enough? I’m not even going to bother telling you why that is such a weird statement. BY THE WAY, unemployment, poverty, over-population- these are all symptoms of the condition of the human heart. I aleady told you why it’s important to tackle the root cause. Why do you think unemployment exists? Why do you think poverty exists? Over-population? What do you think that is a result of. It is PRECISELy because you fail to understand how society, economy and other such things work that you think that these issues are in no way inter-connected and are of themselves individual issues.

    7. “Reading up doesn’t make you smarter than average. Come on lah, if so, any jill can be a smart-ass if she tried. You are wise when your judgements are wise. The ability to make good judgements don’t come from research and you have proven this further to me. I don’t care enough to strive to be smarter than the average jill, btw. I am happy with my thought processes cos they are logical, esp with regards to basic human rights. no need to go to the library to validate them cos they are rational and logical, plain and simple.” – Don’t go to school anymore, don’t study any more I mean, for what? You can survive on your own judgments, thought processes and logic, you don’t need to learn any more. All you know of basic human rights is what the media and people around you tell you. Basically what you’re telling me is that you think you’re right, and you don’t care what anyone else has to say. Where did such arrogance come from? I have NEVER dared say anything about anything unless I was sure I am compleletely informed.

    8. “I am aware that you have implied on a few occasions that one wld fall in love with me only for my face. In case you feel like you need to deny it, it’ll be fruitless cos i’ve heard of this from a few ppl. I didn’t care much back then but now, your attitude is really getting on my nerves, and i have to tell you this; respect is very very important. it does not matter what you believe in, and i told you that in my previous email. If you cld learn to respect an individual’s wish to stay stupid in your opinion, you wld at least gain some respect, or, not lose any. In the same way, let my beliefs be. I respected you enough to not argue with you unless you did. Try that, seriously.” – WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. My dear lady, let me tell you something, all this time, I only ever thought were beautiful as you were because of your PERSONALITY. I describe you as gentle, kind, sensible, and feminine to whoever asks (especially *********), AND THOSE were the qualities that I thought made you beautiful in my eyes. Because in case you think that you REALLY are Aishwarya Rai, I have news for you. Unlike, other people in your life I get around, I see LOADS of girls who happen to be SO breathtakingly beautiful, they will probably never need make up for the rest of their natural lives or anything really.I just don’t think too highly of them, as i did of you, simply by virtue of the fact that they had sucky personalities. In case you didn’t read my previous e-mail to you carefully enough, I told you I happen to think highly of you and that i think you’re different from all those other people out there who think they know everything. You want to stick to your beliefs because you’re afraid of offending others. I mean, let’s look at it this way. YOu care about the rights of the homosexual, the feminist, person of other religions. And yet, you have no qualms about telling me stuff a sock in it. You can accept ALL of these people, but not me, a girl who has been your friend for at least almost a decade. Why? because I’m unpopular. You rather have the friendship of the majority, then me. Oh it would have so easy, if I had just KEPT QUIET, but darn it, i wouldn’t and so, It makes you angry. What sort of friendship cannot even survive opposing views? What kind of love is that? I never knew you to be such an ardent supporter of the homosexuals and the feminists. Did it never occur to you to trust me? And yet you have called me a friend for so many years, and you cannot even offer me a certain level of trust or even an attempt to find out why I think this way. YOU have no respect for me to do even that. But you want me to respect you enough to leave you alone. REAL friends don’t just leave their friends to join the rest of the sheep in doing group think the way you are. It is clear what you value. Popularity, being liked by others, being praised for holding popular views, the number of friends on your facebook. You think we don’t care about people, but this is precisely BECAUSE we do. let me ask you a question, would you spend your spare time, whatever little you have, talking to boys who’ve joined gangs and are ruining their lives, and helping them get out of it the way ********* does? Would you even care to spend five minutes massaging the feet of some unrelated old lady because she is suffering in pain?

    You don’t go around boasting about these things. What your right hand does, your left hand should not know.

    Don’t think you do or would.

    By the way, it’s the said old lady, who told me that a friend who doesn’t stick by you for your views, no matter whether she agrees with you or not, is not a real friend at all.

    I don;t have the heart to remove you from FB, because I still love you as a friend no matter what. but it sounds like you’ve had enough. So I wouldn’t mind if you went ahead and did it.

    Loyalty, try that, seriously.”

    BIG BIG BIG Mistake.

    “I knew you’d give me yet another essay! With my reply dissected, that too in numbered points. Niiice. I think I shall do the same, except I’ll omit the numbering and responding to specific parts and shit. It’s quite cold here. Lazy lah.

    – what I thought while I first read all that was hahaha gd one blah blah blah there she goes again blah blah blah wtf, did she just insult me again blah blah oh nooo not this ridiculous point again BLAH BLAH BLAH ooo, another insult yadda yadda insult insult yakkety yakkety yak ah she praises her husband and belittles me and asks me to try out loyalty when she knows whack about it.

    notice there’re lots of ‘again’s? I’m tired of going back and forth with you. when I fight with my bf, we go in circles instead. you’re way way waaaaaaaay worse.

    – you work in a law firm and handle divorce cases and have done tons of research, and you’re a wife, so you apparently know some stuff. I’ve heard this so many times, and I’d be damn happy if I had a dollar each time I heard it. Cos I’d then have passed each dollar to you to please shut up. You really think you know better than someone like my mom, or sisters or other sane women? Think again lah. Oh wait…that’ll probably be no use. Your thoughts are soaked.

    – a while ago, you tagged me in a note abt homosexuality. I don’t seem to be able to remove my tag cos of bloody fb. 🙁 anyway. THAT WAS DAMN IRRITATING. I’d not even replied to your long essay, and you tag me in another one of your bloody train crash masterpieces. Why don’t you just leave me alone? TRY THAT, SERIOUSLY. Please?

    – I used to listen to you talk abt christianity back then, and I’d just take them as random volunteered info, since I don’t share your beliefs. You started talking a little about Hinduism for a really brief while, afterwhich you went all Jew. And you’ve succeeded in going a few levels up the crazy scale.

    – I really really reeeaaallly never cared what religion you believed in, and nvr cared abt your beliefs. I took you as a human being, and person with a heart, a friend with whom I cld maybe have a rewarding friendship with, with religion not even being brought up. That concept is probably so alien to you, you’re going ‘what, no talk abt radical beliefs? that’s my bloody forte!!’

    – The above-mentioned point is why I can’t stand you now. You go on and on and on about all that you’ve learnt doing whatever research you do, and it’s soooo tiring. Fine, you have different beliefs. Up to you ofcos, and ofcos, I don’t care. But you keep harping on them. Provoking at first, but it gets boring eventually. SO BORING.

    – you know me, I’m a very very nice, patient person. For me to talk like this to you, you’d have to have acted like a real ass. I’m actually quite amazed, you did it!

    – you’ve been doing stupid things for a long time. One such example is the one where you sent Jay and me a video about relationships, after I’d dumped him. Back then, I wondered, wtf is wrong with her? Now I know a bit btr. You’re just prone to doing stupid things.

    – You were the same many years ago, and you are the same now. Nothing wld go into your head. I washed my hands off you last yr. You started showcasing your senselessness on FB, and I washed my hands off you even further, if that’s possible. Don’t tell me I don’t help people cos the amount of effort I put into talking to you, I’d have bloody helped 5 gangsters get back on track.

    – Don’t you dare imply that ******** is a better person than I am. And what’s this thing about massaging an old lady’s foot? Aren’t you kinda boasting? ‘My ***** is so great, he’s so damn kind, he massaged a foot.’ What your right hand does, your left hand should not know? My foot lah.

    – That old lady is right. I tried to be your friend, but you were just too loud with your views. You know I can’t stand them. When I suggest agreeing to disagree, you send me essays filled with statistics and whatshitnot. Again I think, wtf is wrong with her? You won’t leave me alone with my views. Hence, I don’t mind being a bad friend, if that’s what this makes me.

    – It’s amusing when you ask me base questions like, whether I know what oppression means. Wtf is that? You’re insulting yourself by insulting me, y’know. You’re making it obvious that you think you’re so much more aware. Now I have news for you. You can stuff your awareness when bad smells lurk cos you lack the ability to judge a situation correctly because of your biasedness. Stop telling people to open their minds. Work on yours first. I can foresee you being ignored by the general population that you often mentioned. Not cos be ascribe to popular ideas, but because our morals, when it comes to the big picture, are in place. And it starts with me. I’m going to ignore you, now on. Okay, I bet a number of them already have started, but I’ll just make myself feel special here.

    Kindly ignore any communication from me after this mail as I’m sure it’d be pesky spam.”

    Hmmm, well, I did apologise for anything mean I said over a text message and eased her of the burden of being my friend. 10 years and that is all it came down to. Profoundly saddening, but, it makes a great case study nonetheless.

    Only a liberal could date a man for six years, get married to him, cheat on him while still married to him (with current boyfriend), get her marriage annulled, then turn around and deride someone else for mere changes of mind she has had over the years and consider THAT unethical and harmful to everyone around.

    Just for your information, what probably had her ticking with annoyance and refusing to design the project I asked her to, would be the text I wanted included in the design to be given as a Birthday present to my husband.

    “Follower of the Lion of Judah, Son of Eretz Israel and Warrior for the cause of Zion.”

    This is a celebration of another year of wisdom added to the great man you are fast becoming.

    This is a small tribute to you, for the great man that you already are.

    May you lead your life as the noble Lion does, a King of his home, an embodiment of strength and a symbol of righteousness.

    Let your light so shine before men that they may see your good works and glorify your Father which is in Heaven.

    Let your courage shine forth as you battle for the cause, that when that day of reckoning arrives, I may rejoice in hearing these words said unto you-

    “Behold, my servant whom I have chosen, my beloved in whom my soul is well pleased.”

    In it I shall rejoice knowing that I had the honour of having had a small part to play.

    Wishing you the Happiest of Twenty-Second Birthdays, to Christian Eliab Ratnam the Lion-Hearted.

    Your Help Meet,

    Kabetha Tehillah Ratnam”

    I mean, all that love for a mere man?

    Must have had her feminist blood boiling.

    ***the letters have been editted to protect identities and personal information***


  42. Hello all,
    So I am doing a persuasive speech for one of my college classes and I really would like to do it against feminism. (By the way, I am a girl). I am already aware that this is not going to sit well with a lot of people, including my professor, since I go to a small private Christian University with a girl-guy ratio of 3-1. But I would really like to share my views on this topic and I believe that I could at least open up some of the minds of my peers to the subject. So, in order to pull this off, I need to have hard facts; both quantitative and quality information on the topic. I was wondering if anyone on this site might know some resources that I might be able to use or perhaps someone might have a good suggestion for a point that I could make during the speech to back my claim.
    Thank You!


  43. Why allow the truth to come out if it has the ability to violently shake the moral pedestal you have built for yourself. British DNA testing identified 1 in 7 women falsely identified a financially liable man as the father when it was actually another man. It may not have been published in Britian but it did get on the internet elsewhere. “Femminism has never been about truth only inference and distorted reality.”


  44. I wonder if you have heard of white knighting. What follows is a trait observation of a white knight.

    “A man re-stating a woman’s feminist arguments so as to improve them, on the assumption that you can express them more clearly and objectively with male counterparts.”

    And now from the MRA perspective:

    “White knights are traditionalists, and heroes, and within western culture, they are a toxin. These are men who practice chivalry. White knights are males who defend women, but not because women are people – which might be noble. Rather, they defend women only because they are women. This almost always encompasses a willful blindness to the behavior and utterances of the women so defended.”

    Here are few quiz questions to identify a white knight.

    Have any of your female partners been involved in serious social trauma before meeting you?
    Has the body of your female partners earned less money than you?
    Have you ever helped a woman move house because she was having problems with moving?
    Have you ever lent a woman your car because she crashed hers?
    Has a woman’s plight ever made you so angry that you personally confront her alleged assailants?
    Are the woman you date of a lower professional status than yourself?
    Have you ever waved a debt for money you may have lent a woman?

    (Anymore than two YES answers points towards a male being a white knight.)

    How do the body of men see you? A picture is worth a thousand words.

    http://universityofman.wordpress.com/2012/05/12/white-knightism-in-pictures/


  45. There is a fundamental belief of all Men’s Rights Activists:

    “Only dead fish always swim with the stream”


  46. I am disappointed with how some of our anti feminist supporters have retaliated against some of the feminist posters in this site. Using unintellectual insults like “retarded whore” reinforce ideas of male oppression against females, as well as being insensitive to people with mental disabilities, and referring to the defence of male sexuality as a ‘fight’ does not reflect our desire for a peaceful reconciliation between men and women.


  47. Lol, aren’t we bad. Meanwhile, feminists are incessently trying to get any criticism of themselves or their laws criminalized under ‘hate speech’ legislation. I guess that’s what they call winning the argument. Like a pidgeon knocking over all the pieces on a chess board, then shitting on all of the squares, and then thinking it’s won the match.


  48. I want to thank you, sincerely, for your site. I have held these same very deep convictions of the deceptions and hypocrisy of feminism for many years now, but I have always felt I was alone. I was so elated today to come across points of view that I can identify (and feel comfortable) with, without the fear and doubt that there is something unstable in my thinking. Female sexuality has indeed hijacked male sexuality in the courts and in our culture. I would even dare to say that sexual harassment laws are the embodiment of sexual discrimination against males (through discriminatory legislation that favors female sexuality (POVs) over male sexuality) What a breath of fresh air to know I am not alone. I remember an exchange I had with a “feminist” online as she constantly labeled males who liked sex with women as “womanizers”. I asked her to define “womanizer”. Her answer was that a womanizer was someone who used the female body for their own sexual pleasure. I responded, “Would then – by your definition- a lesbian be considered a “womanizer”? I never heard back from her!!! I don’t know what to do now? …. I am so elated to find these many websites that speak my language. I will continue to peruse these sites and hope the Lord opens up avenues for me to contribute. One thing was mentioned on a few of the sites that I had a bit of trouble understanding. It seems that comment was made as to the Jew and their great and tremendous contributions to civilization and humanity in general. Am I mistaken, but hasn’t it been the Jewish male who has been the one of the main players to promote and ferment feminist doctrine and ideological war against the white male? I also believe that Italians, Greeks and the English have also contributed much to promote the western ideals of rule of law and justice.

    Thank you again for your freeing insights…

    New in the game
    John`


  49. Even so, that doesn’t mean that we can justify ourselves for acting like those pidgeons, and surely there are other pidgeons who understand that that pidgeon’s way of thinking is highly extremist.

    I’m not sure if you know this already, but don’t forget we have female anti feminist supporters too.


  50. Even so, that doesn’t mean that we can justify ourselves for acting like those pidgeons, and surely there are other pidgeons who understand that that pidgeon’s way of thinking is highly extremist.

    You seem to be missing the point. I’m not calling for feminists to be put in prison for simply voicing their opinions or resorting to the kind of criminal acts that opponents of the MRM are doing in an attempt to silence us. I won’t be told by a feminist concern troll to be nicer to feminists on my own site when because of feminists most of the things we discuss here (the lunacy of feminist laws that rape male sexuality) can’t even be discussed in mainstream media sites, let alone feminist blogs.

    I’m not sure if you know this already, but don’t forget we have female anti feminist supporters too.

    And they’re not particularly welcome here. Such supporters nearly always tend to be femiservatives who seek to hijack the men’s rights movement in the interests of protecting their own sexual value, just as females have hijacked just about every concievable political viewpoint for the same reason – from socialism to the extreme right, to transhumansim and to animal rights.

    Now go away, you’re banned.


  51. Thankyou John. Please stay around and share your opinions with us on future articles.

    One thing was mentioned on a few of the sites that I had a bit of trouble understanding. It seems that comment was made as to the Jew and their great and tremendous contributions to civilization and humanity in general. Am I mistaken, but hasn’t it been the Jewish male who has been the one of the main players to promote and ferment feminist doctrine and ideological war against the white male? I also believe that Italians, Greeks and the English have also contributed much to promote the western ideals of rule of law and justice.

    I think I’ve used this hyperbolic phrase a couple of times, which is just a paraphrase of a George Steiner quote which is quite popular amongst liberal humanists : ‘Western civilisation was built almost entirely by Jews and homosexuals’.

    I changed the ‘homosexual’ to its more accurate ‘paedophiles’ (according to the absurd feminist definition of a paedophile, which ALL great homosexuals in history would fall under). Steiner’s point was that the values of Western civilisation were built to a huge extent by Christianity (largely Jews), Ancient Greece (all ‘paedophiles’) and Renaissance Italy (all ‘paedophiles’). So Europeans or Americans persecuting these people is a bit like persecuting your grandparents.

    I just use the phrase to bring out the fascist idiocy of the modern liberal progressive mind, hijacked by feminist evil as it has been. For example, the ‘national’ anthem of the EU is Beethoven’s Ode to Joy. Beethoven was famous for falling in love with his teenage music pupils. One biographer noted that he used to walk around the streets of Bonn admiring the pretty young teenage girls. The Moonlight Sonata was dedicated to a teenage girl he was in love with at the time. He never married. He would fairly likely fall under the modern feminist usage of the label ‘paedophile’. Yet although we’re just a few short steps from putting ‘paedophiles’ into concentration camps, thanks to directive after directive from the EU (a couple of countries, including France, are now building prisons solely for sex offenders, with the idea that they will never be released), nobody sees any contradiction in having Beethoven as composer of the European anthem, or adorning Euro notes and coins. Similarly, Goethe liked to sleep with the odd 12 or 13 year old on his travels.

    This strikes me as a little like the Nazi concentration camp commanders who got the clever Jewish musician inmates to play for them, whilst others were being gassed in the showers.

    Regarding Jews, yes it’s very true that many of the leading figures responsible for the current misandry are Jews. In fact, as is well known, most of the major American feminists were/are Jewish. And yes, most of the major figures of Cultural Marxism were Jewish.

    I’m still sceptical as to what conclusions can be drawn from this. Most of the leading chess players are also Jewish, but I doubt if there are any conspiracies going on there. The leading feminist countries, such as Sweden and Iceland, are not exactly choc a bloc with Jews. Several of the leading men’s rights activists are Jewish. In fact, Jews simply tend to rise to the top levels in any intellectual activity, likely due to having an average IQ of 115 (especially high verbal IQ – whether it be through genetics or the emphasis that Jewish parents place on education).

    I personally think it would be a mistake to ‘blame feminism’ on a Jewish conspiracy, but of course I could be wrong.

    BTW, just to put the record straight, as I have been ‘accused’ of this in the past by a couple of commentators, I am not Jewish, and have no Jewish ancestory.


  52. For example, the ‘national’ anthem of the EU is Beethoven’s Ode to Joy. Beethoven was famous for falling in love with his teenage music pupils.

    Alas the History of nations is full of such contradictions and hypocrisies. George Washington grew cannabis – called Indian hemp at the time – and recommended growing it. In the 90s pro-marijuana activists used to pencil a comic strip bubble coming out of G. Washington’s mouth. The bubble said “I grew hemp” (A court in the US ruled using dollar bills like this for protest was constitutional and not an offence). And now the war-on-drugs. Thomas Jefferson was some sort of atheist in his days. And now it’s as much as someone in the US can do to dare declare themselves atheists. The US are a particularly amnesic nation where feminist-driven PC erases History.


  53. Hi Antifeminist….

    Thanks for the invite.

    Regarding your reply concerning the Jews. I think we may be confusing intelligence with wisdom (or lack thereof). History is full of intelligent people who were morally off-kilter (as I and we all are) or lacked basic common sense. Just look at the Feminist movement. No one can deny that those that promoted feminism were intelligent, but were they sensible? Were they morally forthright? (not in actions of sin, but rather in the double-standard hypocrisy by which they furthered their ends) I feel the most visible machine that feminism used to promote its destructive heresy was (and is) “Hollywood”. If you look at the means Hollywood uses to achieve its feminist ends, you have to be alarmed by its shameful male caricatures and feminist promoting storylines…. which are inane at best and insulting at the least. All males are portrayed as inept and foolish. Woman are not permitted to take orders from any male. (except if he’s black) And of course, all women are smarter and tougher than the males. The new Hollywood “wife” model is a woman who bests you in everything and only she is the one deserving of your servitude. Hollywood is absolutely dominated by Jews. The point I was trying to fathom was how can someone like George Steiner (although I did not know it was he who phrased it) make a statement that it was the Jews who were responsible for Western Civilization, when just cursory empirical observation bears out that it is the Jew who, conversely, has been a main (or at least a substantial) player in destroying the white male (western civilization) model. I don’t want this to turn into a “Jew-bashing” treatise, I just think that we have a tendency to confuse intelligence with wisdom (or “soundness”) when, many times, that is not necessarily the case.

    When you mentioned Italian and Greek pedophiles, were you referring to homosexual pedophiles? I had thought you were, but then you threw in Beethoven’s heterosexual pedophilia so I wasn’t sure if you (or Steiner) felt Western Civilization was built on homosexual or heterosexual pedophilia? (I’m not sure I still am?)

    Recently my son signed up for Netflix. In their menu they have Star Trek, the Original Series. I love Star Trek, so I thought I would revisit the original series with one or two shows a night. I was shocked to see how much feminism was threaded throughout almost every episode. It truly was ahead of itself. But I noticed something (besides realizing the original shows weren’t as good as I remember…no wonder it was cancelled). I noticed that although there were many strong female roles, there were also strong male roles. And that masculinity was not denigrated in these shows. In fact, ”maleness” was heralded. I think that is where feminism in Hollywood has deviated to its hatred-spawning low. Kirk was a strong role model. So was Sean Connery’s James Bond. There were many strong women in the old James Bond movies, but there were also men who were wise, intelligent, courageous … and shown to be desired by women. But, just like everything else their women goddesses screw up, the “air scrotums” that write today’s feminist scripts have taken it to the base level of male denigration, (although I don’t think we have seen it go as far down as it is going to go) and regurgitated in these scripts their deep-seeded hatreds implanted in them by their feminist embracing mothers. What a shame…. To sacrifice your own son’s masculinity to the altar of female greed and self-absorption. They should indeed be ashamed of themselves.

    Thank you for the venue

    You are doing a great job
    John


  54. have you seen this article?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-18392873

    it appears that older fathers conceive offspring that age slower

    it would explain why on the occasions i come upon a tombstone from revolutionary period (usually freemason btw) unless killed in action the stone ALWAYS say’s that the person lived well into their 90’s or more

    and i’ll bet the reason folks lived longer back then was because prior to age of consent laws it was mostly older men putting it to teenage girls!
    [the OPTIMAL combination: sperm with longer telomeres and the wombs of young women]

    if so then this means that feminism is responsible for a level of death that makes the nazi holocaust look like brevik’s massacre

    if there’s any argument against age of consent laws this is it!

    btw

    you once invited me to write an article for your blog

    i don’t know about that but i HAVE recently drawn up an anti-slutwalk cartoon if you’re interested

    in addition to being a solid lampooning of slut walkers and their delusions of sexual desirablility it uses a common pop culture icon to illustrate the situation the mrm is faced with

    do you have an email address that i can send it through or is there any other way?


  55. 1. women in the public eye are among the most scrutinized.
    2. most women in prisons do get raped.
    3. this is just ridiculous.


  56. wow. u really really don’t get it.
    have you read the feminine mystique? if you consider your self and expert on this subject, read that, and then get back to us on what “feminism” is.


  57. wow. u really really don’t get it.
    have you read the feminine mystique? if you consider your self and expert on this subject, read that, and then get back to us on what “feminism” is.

    I get it absolutley, and I don’t need to read the works of a couple of self-rationalising sex positive feminists from the 60’s to understand what feminism has been the last 150+ years. A SEXUAL TRADE UNION.

    (BTW – I’m pretty sure this isn’t our loyal and esteemed reader of the same name!).


  58. I was wondering if you have any opinions about feminist campaigns and non-government organisations such as SIGI (Sisterhood Is Global Institute). Trying to get some research, and your opinions would really help. Unless, of course, you don’t have an opinion about said organisation, then, thank you for at least reading my comment.


  59. I stumbled across this website while on searching for antifeminist articles which are supported by rational critical thinking. I am quite new to the subject and am interested in understanding what motivates other men to hold such strong beliefs. Initially my, uninformed, assumption was that men who have been hurt or feel as if they are losing something will do whatever they deem necessary to recoup losses or take a stand against a personal injustice.
    In my search of this slight which must have been perpetrated by the feminist regime, against all males, I noticed two complementary quotes: As stated in this article, “ [Feminism] is an aggressive counter-reaction intended to protect the threatened reproductive and sexual interests of middle-class, middle-aged women in a free sexual marketplace”. Then again in the first sentence of the provided link, “Feminism exists as a defender of the selfish sexual and reproductive interests of aging and/or unattractive women”.
    These two quotes hold the fundamental claim of this antifeminist page: That unattractive, mediocre, and aging women are aggressively trying to override a system for personal gain. That Female sexuality has hijacked our patriarchal system which, has been in place since as far back as our history books go. And that it is not a matter of Enlightenment values or moral equality but it is an attempt for women to secure their reproductive needs. Please let me know if any of this is incorrect or if I have in any way misinterpreted the presumed agenda of the feminist movement. I feel I have adequately stated the assertion that this site is putting forth. Undoubtedly, I have missed key issues which antifeminists have taken offense too, but I think I get the gist.
    A premise to this antifeminist conclusion is that birth-control changed the game and has driven women to become politically/economically empowered to secure their reproductive needs. But this is where I get lost. How has this caused men to suffer? Does this put men in an uncomfortable position to engage sexually with these middleclass women? Do men in some way feel that we have lost a form of power or control? HOW have women changed the game of the sexual marketplace and secured their reproductive needs manipulatively?
    I am a man who sees justification in the feminist movement, but this is merely an opinion based on an outsider’s perspective. I have no facts or knowledge which supports this belief and it is solely based on my environment and moral background. It seems I am missing a huge part of the puzzle to understand the other side of the coin and I am reaching out to YOU to hear the other side of the argument.
    I am looking for someone to have a discussion with me who will do their best to leave their personal emotions and opinions at the door. Please reply with factual information, preferably with supported evidence, of how men are suffering from women’s rights movements.
    Lastly, I am open-minded to hear your side of the argument if you are willing to be open-minded to mine. Open-minded: Willing to step outside of your shoes and view the situation from another’s perspective.


  60. @theantifeminist
    ‘Blake’ said:

    How has this caused men to suffer? Does this put men in an uncomfortable position to engage sexually with these middleclass women? Do men in some way feel that we have lost a form of power or control? HOW have women changed the game of the sexual marketplace and secured their reproductive needs manipulatively?
    I am a man who sees justification in the feminist movement, but this is merely an opinion based on an outsider’s perspective….

    Might I venture to suggest your reply to him takes the format of a new post?
    This coincides rather aptly as well as illustrates very well, the fundamental problems addressed in the recent Where are the Angry Young Men post too.


  61. PS: Blake’s comment & mine can be ‘found’ on page 2 > click Newer comments at bottom of page…

    I wrote this on purpose so others will see it at the top of the recent comments list… (because I had difficulty finding Blake’s comment). I even thought there waqs a problem with my browser until I saw the link ‘Newer Comments ->’


  62. @Alan – everything looks alright on my browser Alan. I have changed around a few things, for example returned to the straight list of comments appearing in chronological order. I hadn’t actually realised that it had gone back to threaded replies (as I tend to look at comments from the wordpress control panel) – must have reverted back automatically when I updated the wordpress versions. I’ve also changed the recent comments section on the sidebar so that readers get the first sentence of each comment. But I see Blake’s comment at the top (or below your’s now of course).


  63. @Blake

    Seems like you have read this page and this page only and not looked at all at any of the other 1,000+ posts here.

    A premise to this antifeminist conclusion is that birth-control changed the game and has driven women to become politically/economically empowered to secure their reproductive needs. But this is where I get lost. How has this caused men to suffer? Does this put men in an uncomfortable position to engage sexually with these middleclass women? Do men in some way feel that we have lost a form of power or control? HOW have women changed the game of the sexual marketplace and secured their reproductive needs manipulatively?

    Because, put simply, virtually every day feminists are lobbying for and introducing new legislation which criminalizes normal male sexuality whilst raising their own sexual market value (and perhaps more importantly and fundamentally, that of the vast majority of the ordinary female population who support them).

    i..e raising the age of consent and introducing ever stiffer punishments for men who (knowingly or unknowingly) break it.

    @Alan – I’m not sure a new article is required in response – he’s obviously intelligent and sees my basic thesis, presumably all he has to to is look back at the catalogue of feminist sexual trade union legislation, and the effects of that legislation, that I’ve documented here over the last 5 years to see ‘why feminism hurts men’.

    Believe me Blake, when a man is put in prison for looking at pictures of young looking elves (under feminist legislation), and he is being raped hard anally by his HIV infected ethnic cell mate, he is being hurt by feminists.

    Of course if Blake is a well known blogger or feminist, and is willing to be converted to our cause, then of course I’ll write a more lengthy reply to him. As my time is important to me, I’d rather he spent more time on this site other than the single page he has evidently read (and largely understood).

    It should also be pointed out that we are a minority voice in the anti-feminist/men’s rights movement, and most in this community have little problem with men being raped in prison for looking at pictures of elves, or 17 year old ‘children’ in bikinis, but that’s presumably because most of them are terrified of having their own harddrives scrutinised if they dare to speak out.


  64. It might be a good idea, I agree, to update this page spelling out some of the worst examples of the feminist criminalization of male sexuality.

    I’ve already got a draft version of an article on ‘why the age of consent is a men’s rights issue’.


  65. @theantifeminist

    Alan – everything looks alright on my browser Alan. I have changed around a few things, for example returned to the straight list of comments appearing in chronological order.

    I think you may have misunderstood me. I said at first I thought there may have been a problem with my browser, (but there wasn’t).
    Why I thought along the lines of there being something wrong, was after clicking Blake’s comment (from the Recent Comments list, it took me to the first page of the post: ‘Anti-Feminist Theory of Feminism’, NOT to Bake’s actual comment, which is what would normally happen.
    I.e. Blake’s comment appeared to be ‘missing’, at first – the link in the Recent Comments list does not link directly to the comment at all, only to the first page of the post..

    It wasn’t until after several clickings of his comment (which at the time was at the very top of Recent Comments), that took me to page 1 (of 2) on that post, that I noticed this link at the bottom RH of the page: Newer Comments ? I clicked that and it took me to the second page of comments, but I still had to scroll down to the bottom to find Blake’s message.
    Anyway, I posted my comment about it in the hope that other readers would see it and not think the comment was missing or there may be other problems, as I did…
    But then again, maybe I’m just naive – other readers may already know how it works when comments are spread over more than 1 page?

    Actually, the more I read what Blake said, I’m more inclined to think he (or she) is either a feminist troll or maybe our old friend Libraliser, returning for another attack.
    Blake emphasizes things like honesty and open-mindedness. It’ll be interesting to see how open minded he / she is after either, heeding your advice and reads some of the other 1000+ posts here, or seeing his /her reaction to your reply to this comment.


  66. @Alan- I see what you mean now, but it must have something to do with the fact that this is a page rather than a post. Not sure if I can do anything about it, apart from make clear to readers, as you already have, where his comment is. I disabled the ‘widget’ that I’d installed to show the first sentence of a comment instead of the title of the article which it was made – but it didn’t make any difference regarding the comments appearing on this page, so let me know if you or other readers want that widget back if you found it helpful.

    Actually, the more I read what Blake said, I’m more inclined to think he (or she) is either a feminist troll or maybe our old friend Libraliser, returning for another attack.
    Blake emphasizes things like honesty and open-mindedness. It’ll be interesting to see how open minded he / she is after either, heeding your advice and reads some of the other 1000+ posts here, or seeing his /her reaction to your reply to this comment.

    Yes, it does have a slight ‘troll scent’ about it. It just seemed odd that he grasped so perfectly my underlining thesis and yet then claims to be confused as to why I would think there is a Sexual Trade Union harming men – especially after I’ve just been publicly exasperated with AB over a similar thing. He also states more or less that he is a male feminist. Not sure if this is the kind of ‘angry young man’ I was referring to in my recent article. Anyway, if he is for real, a quick read of some of the articles here would convince him as to why we are angry.


  67. @EWM – absolutely disgusting.

    I think I will have to highlight that in a main post (link to the spearhead article).


  68. TROLL SCENT?!? Bros.. I assure you that I am new to this site and this mode of thought! Let me tell you why I’m here:
    I enrolled in a Psychology of Women class (as a prereq) and I have found there are a lot of angry women in the class. My initial intent for joining the class is because I thought that it would be informative with regard to the BIOLOGICAL thought processes of women (about how they are wired differently). Needless to say, on the first day of class I noticed that it was a class that was targeted at the oppression of women (not what I signed up for).
    To tell you the truth, I now find myself more interested in the dynamic of the class room than the subjects we are discussing. I am observing everything as if I was a fly on the wall. I look to the teacher to see what her agenda is and what she is trying to impart to the class. Is she trying to acknowledge and console the women in the class who feel victimized or is there a moral lesson that she is leading up to that will make these people take responsibility for themselves? She could be doing both; showing them she sees their perspective and giving them a healthy way to move forward. I’ll keep you guys updated. THEN, there are the people in the class. Listening to their comments/responses is intriguing. Yet, I feel that their perspective is very.. narrow. The see the situations for what they want to see them for but not through clear eyes. As an outsider I feel that their pain comes from their folly.
    I was raised to think that inequality towards anyone is unjust. My personal environment has been clear of observing any victimization towards women. Yet, I feel that pain is a matter of perspective. If anybody, man or woman, puts themselves in a position to be victimized; they themselves are to blame. They can choose to walk away and learn from their mistake to avoid future occurrences BUT, more often than not, they choose to dwell on it, search for pity, and fuel the negativity. While it may be that someone initially caused their pain, I feel the majority is self-inflicted.
    I read the ‘Where are the Angry Young Men’ post which is why I felt compelled to reply. But seeing as I am not an ‘angry’ man I felt this page was more applicable to by questions. I want to know why you feel young men should be angry. Theantifeminist is totally right, I have only really read this page and not the 1000+ of posts here. I don’t really have the time to research the reasoning and filter through any emotional bias. I posted in hopes to be involved in a clear discussion would be easier for me to understand and I hope that’s not a problem. ?? ( If I feel compelled by your argument, I will undoubtedly read much much more. But not yet! As with you, my time is valuable to me.
    I am unfamiliar with the feminist sexual trade union legislation and as of now it has been ‘outta sight outta mind’. I may be unaware of a rug being pulled out from underneath me and I’d like to know what that might entail. Has the age of consent been raised? I get how could affect men in an undesirable way and having an age of consent in the first place is a bit odd. Consent is consent. If it’s mutual..what’s the problem?
    I am a feminist, not by choice, but by the development of background information over the years (my moral upbringing). Morally, I don’t want to see any group get the short end of the stick because of an attribute they posses. If an injustice against them is truly out of their control I have a problem with it.
    My beliefs are not.. my own.. unless I am willing to critically examine them in contrast with your beliefs. Until I understand your perspective, premises, and conclusion; I cannot hold mine as the end-all, justified by critical reasoning. Might I add once more, that this should be an easy task for you. My beliefs on this subject are a measly blade of grass under my moral umbrella. I even think that feminism in search for sympathy is redic and that only a wish for equality is valid. (ruling out a large percentage [the majority?]of its female followers)
    I am willing to be ‘converted to your cause’, but only if you can prove to me how your claims trump my very generic support to the feminist movement. AND only if you’re willing to be just as open to hear my reasoning. I will try to support my end as best I can but it doesn’t seem like it will be a fair fight.
    I would like specific responses to the rights that men are losing due to the feminist movement. I want to know what is on the table and the injustices you feel are being perpetrated on either end of the perspective. Do you feel any feminist claim is valid?
    I’m glad to hear that this single page is largely understood, that I have summarized the claims, and that I feel prepared to be proven wrong. I understand that your time is important to you and I respect that. If you’d prefer not to ‘waist’ your time with me I will understand. But what is the point of a site that is trying to reach out if you’re unable to “show the light” to once open-minded shmuch? One soul is a whole world. Is my ability to reach out to others not worth your time?
    As you said, You are a minority voice in the anti-feminist/men’s rights movement.
    Truly an injustice has been done against the anally raped ElfLover69. But how have YOU been affected and more importantly how have I?!
    @Alan
    (the following is shear honesty with no intent to offend)
    I find it amusing that you are interested to seeing how open minded I might be! 😀 I like it! It makes me wonder if I am dealing with men who are no less emotionally committed to a cause than the women who have failed to use reasoning in their movement.
    The Appeal to Emotion is a logical fallacy which uses the manipulation of the recipient’s emotions, rather than valid logic, to win an argument.
    Let’s be men and leave our emotions on the curb. That is if you do think I am a man! Let me know when you are convinced. 😉

    B


  69. With regard to the horny old dudes. That article says it is, “in the name of combating sexual abuse of older adults”. 1st, if it protects abused older adults, its great! I’m sure their are plenty of caregivers with fetishes for wrinkles. 2nd, this violates the rights of older men to give consent and is totally unconstitutional. 3rd, weed is criminalized along with everything else under the sun. You can’t even fish without a permit. Therefore, I throw this into the bag with everything else that people do for recreation regardless of big brothers opinion. If old people wanna bang their drivers, they are going to do it. The caregivers have no reason to rat themselves out and everything will continue as usual. So who lost out? If anything this has made it more exciting and added to the experience. Is it wrong and unconstitutional? Yes. Is it unbefuckinlievably stupid that they have to make such a law to control seniors? YES. Is it worth it if it protects those who don’t give consent? Yes. Old people don’t give a shit.. if theirs something or.. someone for that matter, that they want to doOo, they will!

    B


  70. @theantifeminist,
    Yes indeed, apparently some of these manginas male feminists are feminists, NOT by CHOICE. Oh dear… Now we really are in the sh*t!


  71. @Blake – you’re welcome here, but no, I do not have time to regurgigate just for you what should be obvious to any male who sticks around and reads this blog. It’s just not a sensible way to use the limited time I have to devote to men’s rights. Just this week I’ve posted a story on how the police in the Uk are to be given powers to curtail the liberties of unconvicted men on the grounds that they ‘might be potential sex offenders’. Regarding the age of consent – feminists have been raising the age of consent for the last 150 years, an forever increasing the punishments. As well as that, they have been abolishing any right of defence of the guilty man on the grounds of ignorance of the fact that the girl was underage. In todays world, when girls start puberty at 10 or 11 and are fully developed at 16, to have an age of consent between 16 and 18 and give the man no defence even if the girl lies and tells him she is above the age of consent, is sick (it’s also primarily an attempt to deter men from seeking casual sex with women who might be underage (i.e. just about any female 16 – 21 or even above). Feminists worldwide are also making it illegal for men to pay for sex, whilst treating the prostitute as an innocent victim. And as porn becomes more ‘democratised’, amateur, and easier to access (or even impossible to avoid online), they are making laws that can lock men up for looking at one thumbnail image of a fully clothed girl who might even be over 18. They are even doubling up on efforts to have porn itself made illegal. Almost 1 million men in the USA are now registered sex offenders, with the numbers growing and the debasement of basic human rights of those men forever increasing. In the UK and Europe, which historically locks up far fewer men than the USA, prisons are starting to overcrowd with men locked up for looking at pictures in their own homes online. With ever more new feminist anti-sex laws, and increasingly barbaric sentencing, within 10 or 20 years, probably over half of the prison population of Europe will be ‘sex offenders’, most of them in prison as a result of laws passed by feminists in the last decade. They will also (unlike most other criminals) be subjected to continued loss of liberties even after their release.

    Now you either see this or you don’t. Follow this blog and make intelligent comments if you like, otherwise, go elsewhere.


  72. Just read your post and.. GET READY..lol I gtg to class but, I’ll try to post it tonight!

    B


  73. Recieved a 12 paragraph treatise from angry young mangina Blake today. Read the first two sentences, in which he declared he was about to ‘rip me a new one’, and put it straight in the comments trash bin.


  74. One or two of you may know that most of the posts from the first 2 years of this site are not here – that’s because they are on another database and I don’t know how to join up two wordpress databases.

    I’ve had the idea of maybe posting the other database onto another site. (theantifeministarchives.com or something).

    I don’t know if anyone is interested, but it would reveal a couple of surprising and curious things – such as that Paul Elam was once a loyal and esteemed reader of this site.


  75. Manginas are even worse than the femi-Nazis. They are collaborators in the demonization and destruction of their own gender. How big a schmuck do you have to be to do that?


  76. Feminism is extreme sexism, it didn’t benefit men, women or society, but it forced men into unnatural unisex roles and women into the stereotypical, rigid mens role. It is so toxic, why: no one is happy, too many neurotic and/or depressed people, too many people are single and can’t figure out staying or starting relationships .
    However, the best thing a person can do to combat toxic feminism and feminized culture. It is actually simple, because men should masculinize themselves, while women should feminize themselves. Tested my idea/thesis on myself, the more I feminize and become closer to my biological female sex, then I felt and tested much bette.
    Just an example the old lol Woodworth Psychoneurotic Inventory test, the average male tester score 32,8 points, while female test subjects gets a whopping 39,2 points, but I only get 3 points on this test, which is an amazing test score. Same deal with all the other tests. When you think, feel and live according to your biological sex, it is healthier and you don’t get down periods like other people, who live in very artificial and unnatural roles.

    I agree, the manginas are the worst, because they betrayed their own biological sex, they basically gave their brains and manhood away to the femihags. Also, if they find out, that you are woman, they will stalk you non stop and forever online, hellish.
    It has become really bad in Scandinavia and Scandinavia is the Saudi Arabia of feminism, because the only danish website manfo.dk, there men spoke about men rights, it just closed down today. The men connected to the website, they were stalked and got death threats from the manginas, and the scandinavian hags. It was really bad, but Scandinavia is at Stone Age level and male victims don’t have the same rights as women, which is extremely unacceptable. So I am actually the only one left or last chick standing, who is dealing with men’s issues, rights and actively talking against feminism.
    I had to set several new profiles under different pen names and websites, so it would be more difficult for them to attack the sites and/or track me. Because manfo.dk is gone, then the feminazis will start to focus on the smaller pro-masculine and pro-men pages, so it is only a question of time before I or other bloggers (dealing with mens issues and not feminism) gets attacked again. It stinks, but if anything happens, I will use the current law to the full extent and throw my woman-card in their faces


  77. This is beyond on point. I receive a lot of hate from my peers, being a girl that is against feminism. Nobody seems to understand the CLEAR distinction between wanting true equality as opposed to punishing men for being “sexist pigs.” While I do agree that some men can be crass when it comes to equality and women in general, that does NOT dismiss nor justify the treatment that women give men in return. If someone was really for equality, rather than post on their tumblrs about how the patriarchy is real and how they want to “drink male tears,” they should be working for equality alongside men, not against. And its not even JUST men that feminists target. I get a lot of hate from feminists for not being one of them, or for being feminine in general. I am sorry that I do not feel like not shaving to prove that women are equal. I thought the whole “concept” of feminism, as explained to me by feminists, that all people are equal and women have the right to be themselves. So why is my choice to wear makeup and girly clothes offensive to you? And how are you going to expect me to not be offended by getting targeted by other girls? I think that being feminist has become so much of a fashion fad, that it has actually blinded feminists from the real issues and how to resolve them. I am glad to have found a website that accurately portrays the ignorance of modern feminism. I’m going to become a regular viewer of your website. You have no idea how happy I am to have found you!


  78. Look at this freak for a potential paedocrite of the year 2015 – Sam Fredricks, one of the beast of Chicago’s supporters, clearly obsessed with paedophilia, as well as pre-pubescent girls, has been tweeting this site as an example of men’s rights being full of ‘paedophiles’. She/it’s got an anime image of a 14 year old boy as her Avatar, and 5 tweets into her feed, she tweeted this image :

    These paedophile freaks must be utter fucking psychopaths. I wonder if she’s into torturing and crucifying schoolgirls like Futrelle’s other disciple RalMCG?

    She’s even tagged it #WaifuWednesday I wouldn’t advise readers to click on that Twitter hashtag unless you are a fucking master paedocrite yourself, lol.

    I’ll have to post an article about her/it tomorrow.


  79. Has anyone else observed that paedocrites seem to be getting more and more brazen these days? I mean, their paedocrisy is so public that I’m not sure that they even really count as paedocrites. Female paedocrites like Sam Fredricks and Lena Dunham think that simply being female and feminist allows them to openly disseminate child porn or peer into the vaginas of 1 year old siblings. Then there was that Americunt ‘author’ from last year who was calling us all ‘paedophiles’ whilst making money publishing trashy child porn horror stories for the Kindle. But even the male paedocrites are getting more and more brazen. Futrelle thinks he doesn’t even have to hide the fact that he finds sex shop videos of underage boys being made to eat shit ‘classic’, simply because he’s a ‘feminist’. And then that creature RalMCG and the other ‘transgender’ readers of Futrelle assume they can openly flaunt their sadistic taste in underage or even prepubescent girls whilst attacking us as ‘paedos’ for admitting that 14 year olds are often highly attractive.


  80. Well the former is clearly down to women thinking they’re above the law because…vagina. The latter? I dunno, maybe they think they’ve got one too…


  81. I think paedocrites are becoming more brazen these days because the government, media, and academic establishments are basically in sympathy with them; and also because they’ve largely succeeded in demonizing normal sexuality.

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