Whilst the recently played out tragedy of Raoul Moat attracted a ‘perverse’ sympathy from thousands of Facebook users around the world, the general reaction from the men’s rights community seemed to be one of puzzlement, if not silence. After reading some of the tributes and words of support to Moat on his Facebook page last week, I decided to check in to The Spearhead to see what my former comrades had to say regarding his Rambo style one man war upon the misandrist justice system that had destroyed him. Errrm…it seems the only talking point was in trying to give a biological explanation as to exactly how the excessive consumption of steroids can turn a man into a ‘nutter’. There was general bemusement expressed as to why this ‘nutter’ was attracting sympathy.
Obviously, one MRA who always has got his finger on the pulse is Angry Harry :
Sympathy For Cop Shooter Downing Street is to contact Facebook to express the Prime Minister’s dismay after hundreds of people left messages of sympathy on the website for gunman Roaul Moat.
The tide continues to turn.
How long will it be before government and government workers dare not leave their houses, eh?
For four decades now, western men have had to put up with a ceaseless onslaught against them emanating largely from government.
And they are also expected to pay for – and maintain – all the luxuries that so many government workers enjoy; despite their own failing fortunes arising from the current economic crisis.
And governments continue to stack all the odds against men when it comes to the law, the benefit system, the health system etc etc etc.
Is it surprising, therefore, to see that people are now actually cheering acts of murder?
Of course, personally speaking, I feel quite sick at the thought that people are pleased to see a police officer being killed or maimed.
But look at how the police treat men.
Tens of thousands of men every year are treated absolutely appallingly by police officers, social workers and the justice system.
So who can be surprised to find that so many people will cheer at the thought of these government officials ‘getting a taste of their own medicine’?
Now, I’m not wishing to have a pop at Spearhead commentators en masse, many of whom justify that site being an essential place to visit. Also, credit to Welmer for highlighting a story that obviously had relevance. It did strike me as indicative though, of the MRM once again failing to ‘seize the moment’. (you’re entitled to ask why I haven’t mention the Moat case up-to-now. I should have. But my site is primarily an attack on feminism as a sexual trade union harming and raping men through legislation surrounding pornography, prostitution, and ‘paedophilia’).
However, just in case any men’s rights supporters are still puzzled at the ‘sick’ sympathy for Raoul Moat then please read the following (and, like Angry Harry, I’m in no way condoning Moat’s tragic actions, simply empathizing with what drove him to destroy his own life and that of others).
Raoul Moat’s uncle has accused the killer’s former girlfriend of having “blood on her hands” over his nephew’s shooting spree.
He wrote: “This lady has the blood of two deaths and a maimed PC on her hands, all caused by the lies and the goading on the mobile (phone) prior to the incident.
“A second phone call to Raoul told him that her new boyfriend was a policeman and had a black belt in karate and if he wanted to come to the house, her boyfriend would ‘do’ him.
“She then went on to describe what her boyfriend was about to do to her when they went upstairs.
“She told him this knowing that he was a powder keg waiting to explode after she had previously told him that he wouldn’t see his daughter again.
“I can’t imagine what his state of mind must have been.”
SOURCE : Killer’s former girlfriend has ‘blood on her hands’.
Raoul Moat died after a stand off with police, sobbing as he cried that nobody in his life had ever loved him. The British police, who have repeatedly killed civilians and then deliberately lied in order to cover their actions up, claimed that he killed himself with his shotgun (after being fired at with police tasars). This version of events is already coming under suspicion.
Is the Men’s Rights Movement really growing?
However stupid sections of the MRM are, I’ve always taken comfort from the apparently obvious reality that the movement as a whole is growing. Whatever else, the heretical idea that men might be of ethical concern in themselves, is slowly being raised in the public consciousness.
But is this really happening? I’ve been considering for a while whether this is simply an illusion given by the increased opportunity for men’s rights supporters to give voice to their feelings via web2.o media such as YouTube. Five years ago, you only had Angry Harry and a few other dedicated sites to read. Now, you can watch any number of videos, post links on Reddit, and with the magic of WordPress, even start your own blog in minutes yourself. But are there really MORE people interested in men’s rights, or is the number of those people expressing their interest merely increasing?
An optimistic way of looking at this graph is that it is simply misleading. The graph measures Google searches for ‘men’s rights’. Perhaps people are searching less for men’s rights, not because of less interest, but because there are MORE places they can readily bookmark that, in effect, do the searching for them. Simply bookmarking a regularly updated site such as Men’s Activism is far more efficient than searching for ‘men’s rights’.
The graph is still troublesome though, in that it surely indicates some kind of drop in the wider casual interest for men’s rights. The widely held assumption that the men’s rights movement is growing is questionable, to say the least.


If you lie to a woman and you have consensual sex with her, it is officially “rape”
“”It is terrible, but the law says very clearly that if someone has sexual intercourse using deception about his identity to conduct the act, it can be considered rape,” said Leah Samael, a lawyer specializing in civil rights and human rights cases.”
Similar laws exist in California and Massachusetts
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/07/21/israel.rape.by.deception/index.html
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“Is the Men’s Rights Movement really growing?
However stupid sections of the MRM are,”
I know that feeling. lol
When I look at a lot of the new members outside of those on YouTube, it always strikes me how incredibly slow they are. Many of them are too unfocused to be of any use to the movement. Some claim to be interested in men’s rights, but only talk about dating advice. On YouTube and Reddit it seems to be a little bit better, though, seeing as they are more politics and issues oriented. But a lot of the MRM blogs are distressing.
“The graph is still troublesome though, in that it surely indicates some kind of drop in the wider casual interest for men’s rights. The widely held assumption that the men’s rights movement is growing is questionable.”
I agree with your interpretation of the data. It would appear that we are failing to reach a larger audience, or even maintain the one we had in previous years. This is surprising news to me, though; because, from the inside, it always seemed to me like we had more and more members and onlookers. I’ll be reflecting on how we can rectify this.
Regarding Raoul Moat, I have not looked into this in much depth for various reasons but on the face of it, as Angry Harry has said, if men continue to be oppressed as they are, with the screw tightening over time, there is more and more risk of a backlash. Persecuting men can only lead to a more unstable and dangerous society, with too many men feeling disenfranchised and stripped of any investment in the society in which they live.
Regarding the Web Search Interest chart, the apparent decline may be about interest in men’s rights being increasingly focused on particular issues rather than it’s generalities. A chart on false rape allegations, paternity fraud or reproductive rights might show an opposing trend. I’ve noted from visits to my blog that the search terms tend to be on quite specific topics within men’s rights.
There is also the nature of men that tends to make us less vocal about these things. Apparent victimhood doesn’t appeal to men even when it is justified. Also, men will often take an interest in men’s rights for a time, an then fade away once the reason that prompted his interest (a divorce, a false allegation, a custody situation) loses it’s sting. However, he is hopefully a changed man for the knowledge he has gained and that may be propagated to others in ways that are difficult to measure.
Here is the final nail in the coffiin of men’s movement.
Lorena Bobbit forgives her husband (she cut off his manhood 16 years ago)
The women that mutilated her husband, cut off her husband’s dick and threw it out of the car window, forgave her husband, after he expressed remorse and asked for forgiveness . And poor Lorena stressed how much her husband had hurt her. No remorse. Yes. You are reading right! Must see the video.
The back story: In June of 1993 after having a fight, Lorena cut off her husband’s manhood with a knife while he was asleep, then fled and threw it out of her car window. Later, Lorena’s trial was carried live, and after the stunning testimony, she was ultimately found not guilty by reason of temporary insanity.
theinsider.com/news/2098643_John_Lorena_The_Shocking_Bobbitt_Reunion