Telegraph : ‘Burn them! Burn the funny-looking, the strange, the loners! They might be paedos! All of them! ‘

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danhodges/100188769/burn-them-burn-the-funny-looking-the-strange-the-loners-they-might-be-paedos-all-of-them/

You should be afraid this morning, if your voice has a slightly strange inflection. Or your eyes have an unusually piercing gaze. Or your choice in clothing is unconventional. Yes, be very, very afraid. Because we are on to you.

The Jimmy Savile scandal has finally woken a nation from its slumber. We are aware, and we are vigilant. There are paedophiles amongst us, and we know who they are.

Hell even the Sun is denouncing paedohysteria : http://www.anorak.co.uk/339074/news/irony-overload-the-sun-berates-the-bbc-and-the-guardian-for-whipping-up-paedo-hysteria.html/

But still not a peep from anyone else in the men's rights movement, apart from Steve Moxon and Chris Brand, both of whom have far too much sense to describe themselves as MRAs, but who nethertheless are far greater heroes to men than most of the rest of the 'MRM' put together.

35 thoughts on “Telegraph : ‘Burn them! Burn the funny-looking, the strange, the loners! They might be paedos! All of them! ‘

  1. inclinedreader

    why am I suddenly reminded of 1930s black and white instructional movies in which the Nazis here in my native Germany told the public how to tell a jew by a person’s facial features…

  2. theantifeminist

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    Eric might like this : http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/blog/2012/nov/12/pampered-humanity-less-intelligent

    “Humans reached a peak of intelligence more than 2,000 years ago and it’s been downhill ever since, a scientist speculates..

    ..He believes that if an average Greek from 1,000 BC were transported to modern times, he or she would be one of the brightest among us. Our intellectual prowess has probably been sliding south since the invention of farming and the rise of high-density living that it allowed, he claims.”

  3. Alan Vaughn

    Oh well, its true what I said the other day about trending all of the deaths of men since feminist written paedo-mythology became FACTUAL and paedohysteria followed.
    I said that such trends would very likely indicate that a full-scale holocaust is just around the corner…
    I wonder if Moxon and Chris Brand will comment? I would also like to see Brian Rothery’s reaction to this, because he believes as his website name (and everything in it) implies: that the new inquistion has already started.

  4. Alan Vaughn

    I had to laugh though at that comment about Savile looking like a weirdo because of his dress sense (or lack thereof), back in his time, he would more likely have been mistakenly branded a poofter, because they did dress and look much like Savile. Also most (especially young) people wouldn’t even have known what paedpohile was anyway, but everyone knew about poofters and knew they were truly weird they were too! Today they are the new normal…

    Another great line in the article was this little shot at the feminist’s lies, paedohysteria, the paedohysterical public and of course the paedopcrite vigilantes pretending they want to protect children:

    “Pity the children! Something must be done!” should stay out of it as well.

    That small sentence says such a LOT about so many…

  5. Alan Vaughn

    Eric,
    This blogger’s commentary looks typical of the arguments AVfM commentators offer.
    He’s one of those ‘equal rights’ therefore ‘female paedophiles’ should get the same as men…
    BS! LOL!!!
    The reason AofC laws should be abolished is because it oppresses natural sexual behaviour (both male and female) but more significantly it demonizes and criminalizes NORMAL male sexuality. In other words these totally Draconian laws put men in prison for decades of arse-rape, daily beatings and has totally destroyed them! Many have committed suicide.
    I wouldn’t want to see that happen to females either, as this fool and AVfM commentators all argue…

    Why should ANYONE be criminalized for doing what God intended them to do? It is the most normal and natural thing in the world for YOUNG males and females to have sex – it is their God-given instinct to procreate, so to make it fair, according to this blogger: BOTH young men AND young women should be locked up as despised perverts or paedophiles for that??

    He even states there that he has ‘no doubt’ AofC laws were originally brought in to protect children from perverts!
    My F***ing God!
    That IS the FEMINIST MANTRA and the pilot flame of all paedohysteria!
    He also mentions in the same paragraph how the laws are now being used to punish men and ONLY MEN (i.e not women as well)…

    He may link to this site Eric, but I think someone should tell him to follow the link for once and f***ing well READ what’s published in the site he so proudly links to!

    (BTW, I hope he reads this comment as well as everything else here, that’s why I stated briefly why WE oppose AofC laws)…

  6. theantifeminist

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    He even states there that he has ‘no doubt’ AofC laws were originally brought in to protect children from perverts!
    My F***ing God!

    I’m not even going to bother to read that ‘man’s’ blog. I’ve got a mind to e-mail him to remove my link. Sounds like a paedocrite.

    Maybe he needs to read Ernest Belfort Bax – the frist MRA.

    How ‘men’s rights activists’ can be so decietful on this issue I don’t know.

    I’m really getting dispirited about the MRM now.

    Not only are MRAs as paedocritical as ever, we seem to be hitting a wall in terms of growth (despite the increase in Reddit numbers).

    There doesn’t seem to be ANY new and interesting men’s rights bloggers emerging, in fact, some of the best ones are either closing or inactive.

    A couple of years ago Paul Elam was mentioned in The New York Times and we thought we were about to make it. Not much has happended since has it? (apart from the SPLC/fraudtrelle fiasco).

  7. jack

    There doesn’t seem to be ANY new and interesting men’s rights bloggers emerging, in fact, some of the best ones are either closing or inactive.

    The situation is more encouraging on Youtube. Maybe blogs are passé. Youtube is the growing media and it is the one more likely to displace Television (=Murdoch).

  8. Alan Vaughn

    BTW Eric,
    I enjoyed reading your comment there too, especially the last 2 sentences:

    I agree that the AOC is based in hatred of men. It’s actually designed to limit male sexual choice by excluding younger and more desirable females from competition with aging femihags like Ms. Grace.

    One of the blogs you’re linking to: ‘The Antifeminist’ has written quite extensively on this topic.

    LOL… !!!!! (for a few minutes actually)!

    I think that ‘scarecrow’ as he calls himself, does indeed comment on AVfM occasionally too.

  9. Deano

    Eric wrote – “LOL—Why is it that when I say things like this, the mainstream media won’t print it!”

    I know how you feel Eric. I gave up writing letter to various newspapers when I noticed that certain points of view were never published. If I wrote about the boring design of modern cars or that travel was over-rated, they printed it. Anything questioning feminism or paedo-hysteria was ignored. Makes you wonder why they’re scared of open discussion.

  10. Alan Vaughn

    …in fact, some of the best ones are either closing or inactive.

    That’s for very sure. Angry Harry hasn’t posted anything since about 2009 as far as I can tell, other than a few links with a quick comment on one or two of them. Maybe he’s all but lost total hope as well?
    I was half expecting, but more HOPING he might open up over the Jimmy Savile and BBC fiasco, but not a peep from him.
    Another great paedohysteria site which has, much like Harry’s: become an archive, with nothing new added (and he even states that it will no longer be updated with anything) is Sex Hysteria. The last article posted there was in March last year. Then of course there was InMalaFide.
    The rest have more or less crossed the floor to join their ‘sisters’, so you might just as well say they all did what Ferdinand ended up doing too…

    The only ‘purist’ MRA blog left is this one!

  11. theantifeminist

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    That’s for very sure. Angry Harry hasn’t posted anything since about 2009 as far as I can tell, other than a few links with a quick comment on one or two of them. Maybe he’s all but lost total hope as well?

    I recall that around that time he mentioned something about having a major operation. He’s also talked about being old and maybe not for this world much longer (although he looked quite youngish and fit in the ManWomanMyth video). He also stated something about needing to earn a living.

    Whatever the reasons, I wouldn’t begrudge any decision AngryHarry makes – he’s certainly more than paid his dues and done more for men’s rights than probably anyone alive (or dead).

    However the thought of the men’s rights movement without Harry is a depressing thought at this point.

    Men’s rights in the UK in particular seems to be in a doldrum – just when we need something to be happening here to prevent the MRM from being subsumed by the North American anti-sex father’s rights coalition. It’s a little bit odd too when you consider the rich heritage – Ernest Belfort Bax the first MRA, Angry Harry father of modern men’s rights, and some of the classic anti-feminist books from the 80′s and 90′s were by British authors such as Neil Lyndon and David Thomas. And even our own father’s rights guys frankly used to piss on our American cousin’s variety by walking the walk instead of talking the talk. (Also interesting to note that if I recall Neil Lyndon wrote his book after the classic father’s rights scenario – loosing his kids to his wife – and yet devoted a chapter to it on the subject of feminist anti-sex and child abuse hysteria).

    I don’t rate anyone higher than Steve Moxon in men’s rights currenlty, but he doesn’t identify himself as an MRA and doesn’t seem to want to get too involved with the movement. Tom Martin has a lot of potential but seems to have gone quiet recently (I’m also a little bit puzzled why he never acknowledged my existance – I was one of the first bloggers to promote his case against the LSE and donated quite a bit of money. I assumed at the time it was because of the controversial nature of the topics discussed here, but then after he lost the case he was unafraid to use direct language in describing the Rochdale ‘grooming victims’ as manipulative teen whores.)

    BTW Alan, I e-mailed the Sex Hysteria webmaster when I heard he was closing his site, asking him not to do so, and also asking him why he didn’t attack feminists. Like most American anti-sex hysteria bloggers, and liberals in general, the thought that it might actually be feminists who are the main culprits rather than right wing religious loons in provoking this hysteria causes too much painful cognitive dissonance in his brain. He also told me that he would never link to my site because people might consider him a misogynist. I did however persuade him to renew his domain, as it is/was an excellent site.

    Angry Harry does update regularly with various interesting YouTube links – I enjoyed his latest suggestion! :

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPNGb6Y3dek

    EDIT : The excellent ManWomanMyth is of course British. Also, the following looks very promising : http://www.mralondon.org/

  12. Alan Vaughn

    He also told me that he would never link to my site because people might consider him a misogynist. I did however persuade him to renew his domain, as it is/was an excellent site.

    Well that’s an interesting suggestion or defence? Yet he doesn’t seem to mind being mistaken as a paedophile or at least and apologist for them!
    I guess being mistaken as a misogynist especially by some of the rad-fems there, could be as bad though!
    You’re also right about how British Father’s rights MRA’s being Doer’s, not just talkers or writers. I was in fits when I read that letter Matt O’Connor wrote to the police when they asked him if he intended to create havoc (protest) when the Olympic Games start.
    The man is not only a real activist he’s an acclaimed comic as well!
    I.e. the opening line of his response to the superintendent of the joint operations unit, Rick Burrows:

    As part of a joint operation involving The Icecreamists, we intend to replace the Olympic Torch with a giant Mr Whippy ice cream cone when it reaches Andover. It will be named in honour of our Prime Minister David Cameron and called the ’Fake 99’.

    You’ve probably read the entire transcript between them so you know what I mean anyway. (LOL)!!

  13. Alan Vaughn

    Meanwhile down the street, the false accusations are still flying (with total impunity of course). Doesn’t matter if a few words can totally destroy a man’s career and reputation – all part of the fun!

    Wouldn’t life be so BORING without paedohysteria and scapegoats…

  14. Eric

    Alan:
    I was bit surprised that his comment about the AOC protecting children came after the comment I posted. Most of his blog is usually devoted to lampooning feminist political correctness.

    Hopefully, Scarecrow will check in over here and read up on the subject some. I thought it was interesting that he headed that post with a legal disclaimer—it shows how wary of paedohysterical vigilanteism a lot of US bloggers are.

  15. Eric

    Deano:
    There are actually unofficial blacklists in the US. Once a person gets on one of those, no mainstream outlet will print anything he writes.

  16. Eric

    Inclinedreader:
    Back in my days in Academia, I offered a theory that Western Civilization entered a another dark age at the end of the Italian Renaissance. Of course, nobody wanted to hear that one—especially a bunch of feminist/male feminist academics who believe they’re the vanguard of a revolutionary Golden Age.

    If they ever do achieve what they’re hoping for, it will be one of the most barbarous eras in history.

    Since the end of the Renaissance, we’ve had a major religious war; all the world wars of the 18th & 19th Centuries; WW1 and WW2. Stable government disappeared; and parisan politics, fascism, naziism, and communism arose. All of the art and culture of the Renaissance has disappeared before sleazy mass-media campaigns. A lot can be said for that thesis! LOL

  17. Muslim misandry:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20316934

    “But Labour MP Yasmin Qureshi warned about “playing into the hands” of far right groups with such accusations.

    The Bolton South East MP said senior police officers and judges involved in cases of abuse had said race did not play a part.

    ‘Bigger picture’
    She said the fact that the victims of abuse were white – in the cases Mr Hopkins was referring to – was “coincidental not deliberate”.

    She warned against losing sight of the “bigger picture” – that the common factors in all cases of abuse was the vulnerability of the victims and the fact that the perpetrators were “nearly all men”.”

    Nearly all men… We remember you, Yasmin Qureshi.

  18. theantifeminist

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    Meanwhile down the street, the false accusations are still flying (with total impunity of course). Doesn’t matter if a few words can totally destroy a man’s career and reputation – all part of the fun!

    I’ve noticed a lot in both the USA and UK recently the distinctions between age of consent, adult relationships, sex with a teen, all being blurred or ignored.

    For example in this article :http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv-movies/man-recants-accusing-elmo-puppeteer-sleeping-teen-article-1.1201506

    the headline is : ‘man recants after accusing of Elmo puppeteer of sleeping with him when he was a teen’. Not ‘when he was underage’, but ‘when he was a teen’. As far as I understand, even in the USA 18 and 19 year old teens can sleep with whoever they like, and in fact in half the states the age of consent is still 16. The man also is quoted as saying he wants to make clear he had an ‘adult relationship’ with the Elmo guy.

    Similarly over here with the Jimmy Savile hysteria, we have articles about him pinching the bum of a 19 year old or taking 19 year olds back to his flat portrayed in the same manner as the rest of his alleged ‘child abuse’ crimes.

  19. theantifeminist

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    Back in my days in Academia, I offered a theory that Western Civilization entered a another dark age at the end of the Italian Renaissance. Of course, nobody wanted to hear that one—especially a bunch of feminist/male feminist academics who believe they’re the vanguard of a revolutionary Golden Age.

    That sounds like a very interesting thesis Eric, I’d be interested to know more.

    I haven’t studied the renaissance (or any history) to anything like academia standard depth, but I’ve always thought that the essential spirit of the renaissance (in my opinion the pagan re-discovery that humans were part of nature and the celebration of this world) was perverted by the Enlightenment with its stress on the assumed objectivity and detachment of human reason. Amongst other things it leads to the belief in the ‘universal nature of man’, the blank slate theory of human nature, and ultimately all ‘humans’ – even men and women – as the same (apart from social conditioning – which of course can be fixed through social engineering). It also leads to the ‘Myth of Progress’ whereby the power that human reason undoubtedly has given us to conquer nature is conflated with a belief in inevitable moral progress – something also much exploited by feminists although disproved by the evidence of history (such as the Nazi holocaust and the Soviet gulags).

    The philosopher John Gray argues that ‘secular’ humanism dating from the Enlightenment is actually just a re-formulation of Christian myths and frameworks (such as the Christian belief in a human soul and the capacity for free will). He also thinks the same about Trans-humanism btw (for example the belief in the imminant prospect of individual immortality).

  20. theantifeminist

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    She warned against losing sight of the “bigger picture” – that the common factors in all cases of abuse was the vulnerability of the victims and the fact that the perpetrators were “nearly all men”.”

    So men as a group can be demonised on the basis of the actions of a few but ‘muslims’ can’t?

    What a stupid bitch.

    Does highlight the obvious fact that paedohysteria is a means of channeling all the hatred of ‘the other’, which historically has been expressed as racism, anti-semitism, ‘homophobia’, into a particular group – ‘paedophiles’ – which is really another name for MEN. Something which other MRAs just don’t get.

  21. Alan Vaughn

    Yes, I’ve noticed the same thing and even thought that when I read about Savile and some 19 year old in his flat.
    They’ve effectively (at least the paedosleaze peddling media have), conflated all sex offences activities involving young, attractive or famous people with the very worst actual child rape and /or murder!

  22. Of course they can, they are “oppressors”. But, to give her credit, muslim women tend to not as bad as their men. After all, who is giving the beatings in prison?
    How likely is it that muslim men turn MRA? This is thorny, very thorny.

  23. You're dog meat, Brady!

    Divide and rule-people love to be superior to/ more righteous than someone. There always seems to have to be an Other.
    Governments love it.
    I’m what most people would call a conspiracy theorist and I make no apologies for that.
    The Cold War was as far as I can see at least partly a sham. In any case, when it ended there was a need for some new enemies.
    The list of replacement foci for the Cold War ended would include IMHO the following:
    -muslims
    -people who object to excessive immigration of people who do not assimilate properly or have a proper respect for the law (some muslims of course)
    -war on terror and associated false flags (eg 9/11)
    -war on global warming/climate change/man bear pig
    -conspiracy theorists/constitutionalists/gun owners
    -bloggers/ people who comment online without using their real names
    -men
    -paedohysteria

    One hand washes the other-femhihags benefit from govt. grants and NGO funding and their assumptions go unchallenged.

    I saw Germaine Greer on the BBC about the time her book “The Boy” came out. She spoke in approving terms about how an older woman might initiate a young boy into sex, but then said that the reverse with presumably the same-age girl, would be “creepy”.
    No explanation was given and none was sought.

    To change the topic a bit, I’d like to see a blog or maybe a competition, to find quotes from past decades, well within living memory, from people in the public eye who were supporting lowering or eliminating AOC laws. Extra points would be earned if the person has since then bought into the current paedohysteria.

  24. Alan Vaughn

    To change the topic a bit, I’d like to see a blog or maybe a competition, to find quotes from past decades, well within living memory, from people in the public eye who were supporting lowering or eliminating AOC laws. Extra points would be earned if the person has since then bought into the current paedohysteria.

    Well I think you’ve already found the blog that would win it easily – it’s this one!
    There’s not a very large number of them unfortunately.
    I don’t think there would be even ONE commentator, on this blog who has since then bought into current paedohysteria, though.

  25. theantifeminist

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    I saw Germaine Greer on the BBC about the time her book “The Boy” came out. She spoke in approving terms about how an older woman might initiate a young boy into sex, but then said that the reverse with presumably the same-age girl, would be “creepy”.
    No explanation was given and none was sought.

    If MRAactivism.org want an idea for a great publicity stunt, I suggest making a citizen’s arrest in public of Germaine Greer for publishing and distributing child pornography.

    To change the topic a bit, I’d like to see a blog or maybe a competition, to find quotes from past decades, well within living memory, from people in the public eye who were supporting lowering or eliminating AOC laws. Extra points would be earned if the person has since then bought into the current paedohysteria

    I don’t know if many public figures have actually called for the lowering of the age of consent, but I have already started compiling a list of public figures who have spoken out against paedohysteria (it’s not a very long list).

    I also think it would be very unfair if the intention was to shame these people – the fact is that the climate has changed and it would be career suicide to continue making public those views.

    Of course, if they have performed a complete u-turn obviously for show – such as David Fraudtrelle has – then they clearly deserve to be outed as complete and utter paedocrites.

  26. Eric

    Antifeminist:
    I think in a lot of ways, the Renaissance was like the 60s; in that it challenged much of the hypocrisy of its day and bringing the values and beliefs of an essentially pagan culture out into the open and celebrating it. The Reformation was probably more of a reactionary movement—that was where the social gender polarity was first destroyed (Both pagan cultures and mediaeval Christianity recognized the government as masculine and the religion as feminine archetypes).

    I agree with your assessment of the Enlightment. The Jacobin psychopaths in France carried that whole philosophy to its logical conclusions and set the standards for most ideologies which have followed since. In fact, they were the first ones to really preach a proto-feminism, part of their revolutionary scheme was to eradicate gender differences.

  27. Alan Vaughn

    @theantifeminist

    Even small South American countries now consumed by paedohysteria :

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-18936711

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-20373034

    What is the AofC in Chile?
    In the second story, they mentioned ‘children’ aged between 12 & 17 and referred to the men involved as paedophiles. Looks like gynocratic UN laws at play here, not to mention the almost carbon copy of the recent UK storm-in-a-teacup, where ‘music producers’ and a famous ‘comic strip author’ among others were implicated…

    They also waffle on as though this is something new and such an outrage and men’s perversion has sunk to even lower levels etc.. This has been going on there and everywhere else, since the beginning of civilization, but of course it’s only now that it is suddenly such an outrage or a heinous crime of the most despicable depravity blah, blah…
    If the children involved really were CHILDREN (pre-pubescent) well it might even be something one could regard as an outrage because it would be and such a case is also very RARE, thus would be newsworthy.
    Also like their Western peers: all of these ‘children’ are going to be ‘rescued’ (indoctrinated into enforced victimhood), whether they want to be or not and TRULY ruined for life…

    World-wide paedohysteria is here to stay!

  28. Jack

    I can testify that Peru is in the grip of paedohysteria fear among men, if not paedohysteria policies. Immigration card have the caption “Peru punished human trafficking and sex with minors”. What the hell is such a warning doing on an boarder control form? A website like perutops, where Peruvians exchange tips on escorts, also lives in fear of paedo-calling. I remember someone there asking where to find “young” escorts. Now young is a simple word in Spanish with exactly the same meaning as in English. In the end the word became taboo and no one dared use it any more. Apart from that early teen pregnancies are an epidemic in Peru, where abortion is not readily available. I’ve heard that Indios and blacks in the Amazon region don’t give shit about the law and go on practising sex and pairing as they’ve done for centuries. As everywhere, the white man is the fall guy.

  29. Alan Vaughn

    @theantifeminist
    You may already know about this, (it’s been online since May last year), but I just stumbled onto this British female feminist dissenter’s blog. I don’t think she claims to be a MRA (not that it matters), but she clearly doesn’t like feminists, nor paedohystereia nor the wicked NSPCC!
    I’ve linked to her post on Jimmy Savile. I’m sure you’ll like it, but she has posts on lots of other topics, much the same as yours.

    I don’t think she’s another ‘Nicole’ at least…
    If you already know about her, just disregard this, but others may be interested in visiting her blog

  30. theantifeminist

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    I’ve heard that Indios and blacks in the Amazon region don’t give shit about the law and go on practising sex and pairing as they’ve done for centuries. As everywhere, the white man is the fall guy.

    Probably because it’s mostly American and European NGO femihags who are creating the hysteria – they have no interest in the native Americans and blacks bonking young girls, so long as they can deter American and European ‘sex tourists’ from going anywhere near there.

  31. You'ren dog meat, Brady!

    The Anti-Feminist wrote:

    “I don’t know if many public figures have actually called for the lowering of the age of consent, but I have already started compiling a list of public figures who have spoken out against paedohysteria (it’s not a very long list).

    I also think it would be very unfair if the intention was to shame these people – the fact is that the climate has changed and it would be career suicide to continue making public those views.

    Of course, if they have performed a complete u-turn obviously for show – such as David Fraudtrelle has – then they clearly deserve to be outed as complete and utter paedocrites.”

    To coin another phrase from the Brady Bunch movie, Gee, dad, I never thought of it that way.”
    You may have a better sense of what is right in this case than myself, but:

    “I also think it would be very unfair if the intention was to shame these people – the fact is that the climate has changed and it would be career suicide to continue making public those views.”

    It would be career suicide for them to do it, but for someone else to do it would be murder lol.

    We’re talking about public figures who by definition almost, are well-off and well-connected. Most of them are turds, too, it seems to me.

    I think people have a right to know who was saying very different things 20 or 30 years ago and to ask them what made them change their minds.

    Research would probably be a slog, though.

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