Human Stupidity Comment On Feminist Defined Male Sexuality

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This comment appeared underneath JohnTheOther’s excellent reply to CNN’s ‘Are Men Stupid’ article :

Great article. It is also great to see that you attack feminist defined male sexuality.

I arrived at the men’s movement through interest in male sexual liberty and its restriction, be it age of consent issue (access to post-pubertal women), prostitution and simply sexual freedom.

Then I found out about father’s rights and the absurd enslavement of “good” family men. Really shocking. Did not know about it though I probably unconsciously avoided getting kids because of such laws. I had women that wanted my kids, no strings attached, just for their nice green eyes. I knew better and emptied out my condoms after use and checked if the condom wrappers still had air in them before use.

What still takes me aback is the great rift between the conservative father’s movement, that wants to make sure the perverts preying on their 17 year old daughters go to prison, and the sexual liberation anti-feminists.

It is very sad that the feminists disagree on prostitution and sexual liberty, but still invite SCUM authors and still don’t get a serious rift between the sexual liberation feminists and the main stream sex repressors. They agree but unite against men on all other issues they agree on.

On the other hand I am still dismayed that some great mens rights blogs got shut down because of a well known and very serious argument with well known writers of this great site. That rift could have ended in serious legal trouble, court and prison.

Men don’t need feminists to disturb their liberation movement, they destroy each other. This is very sad, and an issue that needs to be addressed.

While some people here would support lowering the age of consent to 16, very few would just support getting government out of adolescent’s bed rooms and scrape age of consent altogether or get it to protect only pre-pubertal children.

I keep repeating that that does not mean that people are free to prey on your daughters, it means that it should not be the government’s problem how you EDUCATE and CONTROL your daughter.

Also I don’t need to stress that age of consent draconian laws with absurd punishments (it should be a misdemeanor to err by 1-2 years) make women 5 years above the age of consent too dangerous to deal with (to be on the safe side don’t mess with anyone under 25. Even if you are only 20)

 

Notice this rather less perfect comment from the usually excellent ‘STU’ underneath the same article :

Hating on men for their sexuality, sex lives etc is one of the main tools feminists use to bring men down. Even men get on the bandwagon hating on other men for this. They should just shrug and say, so what. It’s all manginarism though, pretending to be horrified at the sex life of another man who has earned the wrath of the feminists. It’s all about…..yes……I’m not like that….I am……The One Good Man…….now…..how about a blow job.

We should just shrug and say so what, at any and all men’s sexual activity, apart from sexual activity with minors, or actual forced rape of course. In fact, we should have the same attitude for women to. Fuck as many men as you like, play on both sides of the fence, have all the fetishes and perversion that take your fancy……..fine by us….it’s only a problem when a woman uses her sexual activity to hurt men, cry victim, sexually out others to do harm, or make profit. I would put slutwalkers into that category as well.

 

“apart from sexual activity with minors, or actual forced rape of course”.

Now that’s odd, because STU here is putting having sex with minors (under 18) on the same level as forced rape, even though in bar a handful of Islamic medieval states, nowhere on Earth is it yet illegal to simply have sex with a consenting 17 year old.  Even in the US of A, the age of consent is 16 in most states.  In Europe, the average age of consent is 14.

Furthermore, despite being an experienced MRA, who appears to ‘get it’ as far as the understanding of feminist control of male sexuality is concerned, STU appears unaware or oblivious to the fact that it was feminists who created statutory rape laws in the late 19th and early 20th century.

Unfortunately, for some MRAs, feminist self-interested control of male sexuality is actually a good thing when it happens to agree with a conservative father’s desire for sexual control over his teenage daughter.

Man with World’s Largest Sex Doll Collection Interviewed on Daytime TV

A sex doll collector, who proudly boasts of having the world’s largest collection, is interviewed on a British daytime tv show popular with middle-aged women.  Gets a little awkward at the 7:17 mark

Meanwhile, you probably saw this on Reddit – ‘Sex Toy Equality‘ :sex toy equality

And let’s be honest, it’s as much men as women who shame other men for using sex toys..  Sometimes I think that this is must be some kind of deep-rooted psychological inability of men to admit or even discuss anything which might be seen as an admission of ‘sexual inferiority’ to rival males – in the same way that most white men will never admit that white women (who aren’t fat and ugly, at least) find black men sexually attractive (whether it’s true or not).

It’s rather illuminating with regards to older men and teens, that the media, after all the draconian legislation and moral shaming, still has a need to portray these ‘paedophiles’ as sexual losers, who ‘can’t get a woman their own age’.  Thus, remarkably easily, the sexual trade union has managed to define men finding nubile fertile girls at the height of their sexual attractiveness as the ultimate in unmasculinity. Feminists know that a man being defined as a sexual loser is as painful to most men as years in prison spent being raped in the ass as a sex predator.

And this leads to the question as to whether that same psychology will prevent there even being a men’s rights movement that is positively pro-male sexuality.  For to admit that male sexuality is being victimised by feminists is perhaps too close to an individual male admitting that he is, in some sense, a sexual loser.

This is one reason why I’m very conscious of not furthering the image of MRAs being sexual losers, especially when we know it is the feminists and their unattractive female support base, and their omega male mangina white knight champions, who are evidently the ones who can’t get laid, who need to criminalize others to have any hope at all of succeeding sexually.

In fact, if you have seen photographs or video of some of the leading men’s rights activists – such as AngryHarry, W.F.Price, Paul Elam, Bernard Chapin, Warren Farrell – they are all, despite being in or past middle-age, handsome men.  Compare that to the leading feminists, and indeed, the leading manginas..

And there is always the Japanese. Certainly Japanese men don’t seem to have any hang ups about sex toys at all.  In Japan, the gender roles in relation to the purchase and use of sex toys is almost completely reversed.  For every vibrator, there are a dozen male masturbators – often of astonishing variety and complexity.  Take a look, for example, at the following Japanese online sex toy shop : http://www.sextoysjapan.com/

To paraphrase Winston Smith in 1984 – ‘if there is hope, it lies in the Japs’…

 

How Frumpy Women Trick Men Into Thinking They Are Attractive Girls

Interesting YouTube video I just stumbled upon – a plain looking female twenty something frump honestly explains the lengths that women like her have to go to in order to compete in a free sexual market.  In fact, most women, even those who were formerly beautiful girls, are as plain as this women is when they are without their makeup on by the time they reach their…oooh… mid-twenties.

Women spend 3 years of their lives in total performing this shit, all with the purpose of sending false sexual signals to men that they are still peak fertility, or rather peak attractive, teenage girls.   Feminists call PUAs who do their own (psychological ‘alpha male’) version of this – ‘rapists’.

And of course, bleached hair, contact lenses, half a kilo of war paint, and 3 years of your life are only half of the battle.  Women still need feminists to criminalise male sexuality at every turn, along with creating the most backward hysteria seen in the civilised world since the late middle-ages.

Millions of young Japanese women and girls visit my city every year, and each passing summer I’ve noticed that they never fail to look better and better.  I’ve always been a veritable connoisseur of eye candy, but less than a couple of decades ago and Japanese girls were almost entirely invisible to me as I passed them in the street.  They all seemed to look the same – little narrow eyes, black lifeless hair, identical skin tones…  There was nothing about them to either notice or to tell them apart.

Yet now it’s rare for me to walk through any touristy part of town and not run into at least one or two Japanese girls that genuinely take my breath away.  These days, they are stunning more often than they are not – some of them not only unique but seemingly arrived from another and more beautiful world entirely.

It’s all fake of course.  For example, the beautiful big manga eyes that Japanese girls have ‘evolved’ within a generation are the result of operations and specially designed cosmetic contact lenses.

Not that there’s anything wrong with sexual forgery in a female. A man, at least, does not feel like he has been raped merely because the woman who has seduced him into bed tells him that she is 5 years older than he had presumed.  And if you do wake up in bed next to a frumpy Japanese girl when you remember taking home a stunning anime like babe, then at least you won’t have to blame the distorted lenses of your beer goggles.

The increasingly fake beauty of Japanese women in particular point the way towards a near future where most people will be having sex with each other virtually – a world in which how you appear to your lover can be entirely tailored to their (and your) sexual tastes.  Articifial though such a world may be, at least we can hope that the sexual trade union will have ultimately lost its very reason to be.

Brooke Shields 15 years old

Brooke Shields at 15

 

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Brooke Shields at 45

Do 40 Year Old Men Really Want Relationships with 16 Year Old Girls?

If men are really hardwired to prefer teenage girls, why are there so relatively few men having relationships with (legal) 16 and 17 year old girls?

I’ve been pleading with loyal and highly-esteemed reader ‘Highwayman’ to write a guest post here, or at InMalaFide, for some time, but it doesn’t look like it’s going to happen.  Reading an old comment of his this morning made me realise I can do the next best thing – publish one of his best comments as a post.

Highwayman is replying to a comment from a femiservative reader – Danica – who questions whether  many 40 year old men would really want to have a relationship with a 16 year old girl, by pointing to the fact that the age of consent is still 16 in many places and yet such relationships appear quite rare.

QUOTE: “Do 40 year old men really want relationships with 16 year olds? No.”

Well 16 year old girls are illegal in many US and Australian States. Furthermore, as the Age of Consent is 18 in California the meme that 16 year olds are “jailbait” and “16 will get you 20″ has spread throughout the Anglosphere and beyond as a lot of entertainment media is produced in Southern California. Even in jurisdictions where 16 year old girls are legal there are many ways for a man to get into trouble via laws against “grooming”, laws criminalizing men for taking a sexy photograph of their under-18 girlfriend, vaguely written “sexual exploitation” laws such as we have in Canada, laws against having sexual relationships with under-18s if the person over 18 is in “a position of authority”..etc. Given this legal situation is it any wonder that older men avoid relationships with young girls? Also keep in mind that in many jurisdictions laws governing sex with “minors” are strict liability offences where the adult will be punished even if he reasonably believed that the girl in question was over 16/17/18 (depending on the jurisdiction) therefor not only do men generally avoid under 18s but they also tend to avoid under 21s as well (to avoid the risk of an underage sex charge should the girl turn out to be under 18).

On top of the legal situation described above you also have a cultural environment where the definition of pedophilia has been extended to include sexual attraction to girls under the age of 18. Thus a man with a 16 year old girlfriend (or a man who desires one) will be branded a “sick pervert” or a “pedophile” and risk serious social ostracism.

Another thing that prevents many relationships between older men and young girls from happening are laws such as the legal drinking age ( 18 or 19 in Canada depending on the province and 21 in all US States) legal driving ages and laws/practices WRT how old you have to be to participate in certain recreational activities (nightclubs..etc) these laws and practices encourage a high level of age segregation.

Finally there is the fact that many 16 year old girls today are brought up in a culture of extended childhood and the result of this upbringing may make a number of 16 year olds unattractive to men (for relationship purposes). While some people may say “just let a kid be a kid” some mental health professionals have noted that this culture of extended childhood is NOT HEALTHY for adolescents.

In conclusion, I am simply trying to drive home the point that while it may be true that many men avoid 16 year old girls, this situation is an artificial one created by age of consent laws, pedohysteria, legal and cultural age segregation practices and a culture of extended childhood…if those factors where to change I guarantee you that there would be a very significant increase in the number of men who would be interested in 16 year old girls.

PUA Fun

If you thought Krauser PUA had balls, wait till you see his evil twin brother – ‘Jambone‘ – in action.  00:45 (her) ‘I think you’re creepy’ ; (him) ‘oh I’m very creepy - you haven’t seen the half of it’

I think Jambone was just having a bit of fun here, but it is apparently an example of ‘cocky/ballsey’ method (or something like that).  By way of contrast, the PUA in the video below also has plenty of balls, but his approach is described as the ‘low energy method’.  What I like about this guy is that he utilises something very basic and simple that has a lot of scientific evidence to back it up – speaking in a low voice turns the chicks on.  And it’s very simple to achieve.  Once or twice a day, repeat the word ‘gonggggggggggg’ a few times and let your lower vocal cords vibrate on the final g for as long as possible.  Believe me, in less than a week, you’ll be talking like the guy in this video.

Of course, the above video should be more modestly titled – ‘how to approach two cute  French girls in the park without being told to fuck off’, but it is no doubt impressive.  Maybe they were, indeed, having their ‘night in’, and maybe he’s banging them both at this very moment’ after a few Facebook chats - they definately were giving him ‘indicators of interest’ (IOIs) right from the go.  From my ‘average frustrated chump’ (AFC) perspective, he does come across as a little too obviously PUA (Neil Strauss’s ‘The Game’ has become a bestseller in just about every country in the world now – even cute French girls know when they are being gamed by a PUA if it’s too obvious).

But this is basically how I found and met my 17 year old French fuck buddy.  I’m not a PUA, but if I had just 20% of the PUA skills of a, say, Krauser, then I imagine I’d probably be scoring with a new 9 or 10 at least twice a week – even when just limiting myself to approaching 16 – 21 year olds (as I do, and let’s face it, most 9s or 10s are that age range anyway.  In fact, I’m not sure a woman above 21 is technically capable of being a 10, and if she is, it’s only in comparison to women her own age or older).

Of course, with the dangers inherent in the expression of successful male sexuality growing by the day  (read ’27 precautions before having sex’), I’m not sure I’d want to acquire the skills of a top notch PUA.  As far as I’m concerned, only approaching tourists, or meeting girls abroad, is remotely safe these days.  The reason is that tourists will carry a passport (very, very unlikely to be faked) and girls in most European countries are required by law to carry personal ID (again, extremely unlikely, in fact a criminal offence, to be faked), so you can be sure that they are over 16 (or, sadly for American readers, 18).  You don’t necessarily have to say ‘can I see your passport to check that you’re not jailbait before we go any further?’ – just naturally play the ‘I’ll show you my dodgy passport photo if you show me yours’ game, or a similar variation.

The other day, as I strolled through the park, I noticed a couple of blonde chicks on the grass directly ahead, their backs facing me.  As I approached, the super cute one of the pair turned and saw me, and immediately licked her lips (yes indeed) and nudged her friend.  ‘If they are German and the passports say legal’, I thought to myself, ‘they are in for the hardest British banging since the second world war’.  The other girl turned her head and looked me up and down, and said in a decidely un-german and very English upper-caste Norman accent - ’he’s nice’.  They might have been 16, or they might still have been jailbait.  Sure, I could have sat down and talked, exchanged e-mails or numbers, and had a religiously observed purely platonic friendship until their 16th birthdays, but in the UK it’s even a risk simply giving a girl under 16 your e-mail address. 

I shrugged my shoulders, smiled at her regrettably, and walked on. 

The super cute girl, who was beyond pretty, had long thin legs, and was wearing a pair of micro-shorts.  Hell, even Chris Hanson would have exclaimed ‘sweet mother mary’ and been tempted to have a seat right here on the grass beside her. As I walked on past, she cried plaintively, in an ultra-posh accent’, ‘I’m not a baby, you know’.  Well, it’s in the interests of the femi-beasts (and my personal safety) that we pretend that you are, sweetheart, I felt like telling her.  And at least she was sweet enough not to get aggressive, which happens to me quite often when jailbait vainly try to seduce me.  A few years ass rape in prision, a place on the sex offender’s register, the probable loss of your job, friends, and family, and the label of a paedophile and a child abuser hanging around your neck for the rest of your life – all these things are merely shit tests that a beautiful young girl would still expect you to risk in order to win her prized selection.  And this is why you will never see 15 year old girls marching in protest to have the age of consent lowered.  It’s all about power.

Turning the Tables

http://www.spaceavalanche.com/

Of course the tables aren’t really turned because the guy would be in even more trouble for ‘sexual harrassment’ than he would be for looking at semi-exposed breasts.  I think the very first time I questioned the societal assumption that women have it worse than men was when, as a teenager, reading a Sunday tabloid column by the politically incorrect ‘doctor’ Vernan Coleman, I came across a similar example of blatant sexual double standards that the author highlighted. : If a man looks out from his window and is transfixed by the sight of a female neighbour undressing in front of her window, then he could be arrested for voyeurism.  On the other hand, if she looks out of her window and stares incredulously at the sight of him undressing in front of his bedroom window, then HE could be arrested for indecent exposure.

I think that was the moment I began to realise that feminism was just a crock of entitlement bullshit, a sexual trade union even.  By the way, don’t you think the cartoon above would make a great t-shirt?  Maybe it would provoke a few such ’epiphanal’ moments in other young men?

Meanwhile Hank Pellissier wants to talk.  He’s suggested that IEET.org could publish an article containing men’s rights criticisms of his ‘estrogen utopia’ plan :

HI — I have an idea for an article that might get run at IEET but there’s no guarantee — an article called: “Estrogen Utopia? or XX Dystopia? – feminist vs antifeminist debate”
It could be set up as a double-interview with each side answering questions and responding critically to each other’s statements. Let me know if this interests you, via facebook

Outline for an essay – Peak Female Sexual Attractiveness

the three graces

The Three Graces - Ancient Greek representation of fertility

At what age is the average female most sexually alluring to an ordinary, healthy, uncastrated male?  Is it even possible to ask this question in the climate of today, and expect a reasonably honest answer?  There have been a couple of good tries in the anti-feminist community recently, but such attempts inevitably end up with men playing the ‘I’m less of a paedophile than any other man here – feminists might be reading’ game. Perhaps, on such topics, we should follow the sage advice of Ludwig Wittgenstein, and accept that ‘of that which we cannot speak of, we ought to remain silent’?  At least this way some semblance of male dignity is preserved.

One things for sure.  The mangina respondents to this survey, faced with their scowling wives peering over their shoulders, didn’t remain silent when they clearly ought to have.

Well, I’m going to have a go at a politically incorrect, honest analysis of what evolutionary theory, and not the deluded wishes of 31 year old women, would predict men to find most attractive, age wise, in females.

But not today.  If something so politically incorrect is worth doing, then it’s worth doing well, and I need your help.  I’m asking readers like Highwayman, Frank, RR, and others, as well as other bloggers such as Human-Stupidity and Jay Hammers to give me some suggestions and advice.  Any links and resources would also be most valued.

Hopefully I’ll have the article completed before I allow my wandering eyes to put theory into practice on the beaches of the French riviera next month.  But for now, here is a sketch of some of the points I will be addressing :

The concept of ‘peak fertility’.  A mistake often made is to assume that because a woman reaches peak fertility (number of eggs produced) at age 22 or so, that this means that men will find her most attractive at 22.  False.  You also have to factor in the number of remaining years of fertility into the equation.  Also, the likelihood of the girl being a virgin or not (‘mummy’s baby, daddy’s maybe’).  For these reasons, even though an 18 year old may be slightly ‘less fertile’ than a 22 year old, ET would still predict that men would prefer the 18 year old. (and there are also good ET reasons why a woman would reach peak fertility some time after she has bonded with/attracted a male provider – I will explain these in the finished article).

Evidence through long-term history.  The well-established fact that the norm has been for men to marry girls shortly after the commencement of fertility (the menarche).

Evidence through recent history.  Whatever the situation in America, in Europe both ‘paedohysteria’ and the extension of paedophilia to embrace sex with ‘minors’ (a ‘minor’ itself being an imported American concept), is a very recent phenomenon.  Little more than 10 years ago, the most popular porn franchise in Europe was ‘channel seventeen’ – hardcore pornographic videos featuring 16 and 17 year old Dutch girls (now of course, illegal even to view due to American/’child protection’ group lobbying).  The most popular British newspaper, the ‘Sun’, reached it’s position (after almost folding in the 70′s) through publishing topless ‘page 3′ girls, often aged 16 or 17 (including the most famous of them - Samantha Fox).  Equivalents in Denmark and Gemany, such as Das Bild, regularly published topless photos of 15 year olds.  More risque tabloids, such as the British ‘Sunday Sport’ often held competitions for its readers to have sex with 16 year old pornstars.  In fact, it would often count down the days until one of their glamour models reached her 16th birthday, titilating readers with revealing bikini shots, until it could legally show her topless.  The market does not lie.

In Japan, which until the last few years had absolutely no taboos whatsoever on teenage sex, it was taken for granted that teenage girls were most attractive (and virtually all porn and erotica involved teenage girls). Train stations would have used schoolgirl panty vending machines. In Japan the school uniform is a symbol of male desire, just as the mini-skirt is in America.  Are Japanese men simply perverted?  Or is a more likely explanation that Japan, until the last few years, was free from anglo-saxon christian puritism, as well as sexual trade union feminism? (not to mention being free from America’s teen pregnancy rates, teen obesity levels, youth violence etc. But that’s another article….)

Statistical reasons relating to accepted criteria such as youthful skin, hip/waist measurements etc.  Here it would be most helpful if anybody could provide a link to any relevant charts/tables.

Removing mis-leading modern day factors : the average woman of today has a greater variety of make-up, hair styling methods, and clothes to choose from than even Cleopatra would have had access too.  And the application of all of these articifial enhancements to a female’s looks are ‘skills’ that improve over time.  These are major off-setting factors, but remember, we are talking about raw physical desire.  In the street, I see many sexually attractive 30 year olds.  In the swimming baths, without hair styling, make-up, jewellery, or expensive clothes, I rarely see any attractive woman over 22.

Feminism increases ‘paedophilia’ : Rising testosterone levels, as well as greater obesity, mean that the feminine body found in many 20 year olds of only 50 years ago, would probably be found more often in 14,15 or 16 year olds of today.

Kendall Jenner

Is 14 y.o. Kendall Jenner really 8 years away from peak attractiveness (or 17 years!!)?

Kim Kardashian’s 14-year-old sister Kendall defends bikini photo shoot

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Making sex sell..and trainspotters

Restoring dignity to secular reasoning, the beautiful YouTube atheist ZOMGitsCriss picks apart arguments for the criminalization of paying for sex. This girl seems on a single-minded mission to convince humanist manginas that it’s not heresy after all to question the tenets of their feminist mother goddess faith.

I do wonder though, if her tolerance of porn and prostitution will soften as she loses her looks…just as it has in the case of this 1960′s once sexy liberal rationalist – Joan Bakewell thinks sexual competition is bad now she’s old and can’t compete..

Dame Joan said the freedom granted by the introduction of the Pill had been corrupted, resulting in the sexualisation of young girls and the prevalence of pornography.

In the 1960s, Dame Joan was a vocal opponent of Mrs Whitehouse, whose moral crusade against sex and violence in broadcasting led her to found the Clean Up Television campaign.

The free sexual market is great when you’re young and attractive and you can choose from whichever number of alpha males to screw. When you’re 50 and frumpy, and can no longer compete with nubile girls, suddenly you realise it all had ‘unintended consequences’.

Here’s a video that would cheer Joan up and remind her that things were once far worse for the older British woman – even as little as a decade ago. This clip, from the 90′s BBC Comedy ‘The Detectives’ was obviously made a couple of years before the men of Merry Old England succumbed overnight to the fantasies of middle-aged American feminists and ultra-conservative trainspotters, becoming only the second people in the history of the human race to believe that admiring the charms of young womanhood was something as perverse as the attraction to toddlers.

I do hope the men’s rights movement isn’t becoming infested with trainspotters…