Steve Moxon : The amazingly stupid male-hating Savile hysteria continues in ‘Giving Victims A Voice’; the police report travesty
http://stevemoxon.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/the-amazingly-stupid-male-hating-savile.html
(excerpt) :
The title of the report says it all. An exercise in entirely one-sided justice is the very antithesis of justice. The Met Police have no basis even in principle of concluding that Savile was a serial sexual abuser, but have instead simply assumed his guilt despite all of the well-researched reasons for being highly suspicious of retrospective accusations where sex is involved – see my previous blog posts on this.
It is not tenable in the light of all of these major factors casting very serious doubt on historical sexual allegations against a celebrity through a media and police trawl to accept that multiple accusations in any way provide mutual corroboration. On the contrary, they undermine each other in that they provide a key basis for elaboration or invention. The Met Police claim that the accusations are fully believable because of their similarity! Of course they are similar: what else would be expected given the trawling?! The stupidity here is elementary.
The report deliberately misrepresents in using the terms ‘allegation’ and ‘report’ to conflate the date (year) in which an offence was claimed to have occurred with the date (year) when the claim was formally made to police. There is no mention in the report of even a single allegation made at a time contemporary with its supposed occurrence, so all of the claims are retrospective — and retrospective by several decades.
Steve Moxon said in his final paragraph:
Well I sure hope it will eventually become part of history and not become an entrenched belief that never goes away!
And that’s what I tried (with many more words) to explain to Clarence under the post: ‘State of Play & Hopes for 2013′.
What Steve’s saying is the same as I was – how even the police are that BRAINWASHED they can’t even see the obvious: the very likely mutual corroboration that is clearly able to provide the apparent consistencies in the so-called ‘victim’s’ stories!
In other words: they too dare not dissent or question the (feminist) dominant narrative:
‘Men who have sexual liaisons with ‘children’ (under the legal age of consent) are perverts or paedophiles’!
‘Women claiming to be raped are to be BELIEVED because women and children NEVER lie’!
‘All men are rapists or at least ‘perverts‘
They dare not dissent or voice any disagreement with such narratives, because as in any totalitarian state: anyone who expresses such dissent or shows in anyway that he or she is DEFENDING such an ‘offender’ MUST also be an ‘offender’.
Either that or the Police have what evilwhitemalempire (I think) would describe as ‘room temperature IQ’s’ and I don’t think they’re that stupid, only stupid by way of their stupid feminist pc loyalty. Where political correctness (thus observing the feminist dominant narrative) actually overrides the LAW!
And they can do so with total impunity too, because the paedohysterical society they are supposedly protecting, (as well as the manipulated manginas and femiserves and femihags of the
gynocracygovernment), fully approve of them doing so.They must keep that paedohysteria furnace burning!!
Our society is indeed no better now than were our ignorant, illiterate, inbred ancestors from the 15th / 16th century inquisition, lynching witches and heretics, and with the same levels of ignorance and superstition!
Not one atom of common sense or logic, let alone fairness or justice, can found in any part of their behaviour…
Alan Vaughn
12 Jan 13 at 3:50 am
Steve Moxon’s critique of the police report travesty also mentions how our favorite charity, the NSPCC plays quite an important role in the total scandal the ‘report’ really it is:
(The bold highlighting is mine).
Coincidentally Brian Rothery has also posted an interesting little story on his Inquisition 21 site on their latest advertising plan.
And just when we thought things couldn’t possibly get worse (for men) he’s also posted this story on the new Child Protection Act, that we were discussing here a few days ago.
Brian has also provided a link to his new website which covers these ridiculous and Draconian laws in their entirety and everything related!
Alan Vaughn
12 Jan 13 at 8:20 am
I haven’t looked at the details of this new ‘child protection plan’ yet, but I find it hard to imagine even this country putting further wedges between adults and ‘children’, especially when the present government has rolled back some of the previous New Labour legislation (excessive paedo checking on those having any interaction with people under 18). It will be particularly outrageous if this Savile hysteria justifies them when most of what he is alleged to have done occured decades ago before we had the evil of paedohysteria.
BTW, if anyone doubts how and man-hating the NSPCC is, and how it’s entirely due to feminism (i.e. not of the other things we mentioned) :
http://theantifeminist.com/the-nspcc-as-an-evil-feminist-organization/
It’s a shame this article wasn’t more widely circulated within the men’s rights movement, but we all know the reasons why.
theantifeminist
12 Jan 13 at 9:47 am
For a very interesting take on the Savile witch-hunt, paedohysteria in general and just how totally sick our society really is, this short summary explains it all amazingly well: Transmogrification – the making of a monster.
Alan Vaughn
13 Jan 13 at 12:13 am
Given the sheer number of allegations, I’d love to know how many of them are supposed to have occurred on the same day and time at very different locations, or at times when Savile couldn’t possibly have been near anyone. And I’d imagine that the police could then help them change their stories to eliminate any embarrassing conflicts when the ‘evidence’ is presented in court.
I wonder how much of the compensation money will be spent by ‘victims’ on cosmetic surgery to make themselves look younger?
Deano
13 Jan 13 at 12:58 am
Haha – good point Deano. And the ‘victims’ are trying to freeze the assets of Savile’s charitable organization – that is helping and saving the lives of children dying from cancer etc – and have it divided up amongst themselves.
theantifeminist
13 Jan 13 at 5:49 am
We’ve come full circle now :
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/370439/Jimmy-Savile-was-part-of-satanic-ring
theantifeminist
13 Jan 13 at 6:02 am
If our imbecilic retarded and paedohysterical
Inquisitorssociety believes even half of this SHIT they deserve to be exterminated themselves!Do these total f…heads also believe they can make money by leaving their teeth out overnight and the good tooth fairies will call and swap gold in place of their teeth?
Well according to this nonsense they SURELY MUST:
(The bold highlighting is mine). Just that one sentence alone, convinces me that this story can ONLY POSSIBLY BE total F…ING BALONEY! There have been numerous allegations of this so called ‘satanic ritual abuse’ and ALL of them found to be totally and utterly false, yet the majority of our brainless, paedohysterical and hateful society still want to believe these FAIRY-TALES and downright BLATANT lies!
Even the DUMB-FUCK COPS believe this SHIT!
It just defies any reasonable thinking or explanation..?
What is WRONG with people? Do we need another world war or something to wake people into the reality of what they are: Totally medieval, IGNORANT and hate-mongering, pitch-fork wielding simpletons that even their witch-hunting Inquisitorial ancestors of the 16th century would be ashamed to be associated with?
We are supposedly:
A modern, informed, intelligent and advanced society…
Huh! The JOKE of all time.
By what standard? Perhaps the pre-fire era, maybe the pre-wheel epoch, before there was even verbal communication between people? Yes if we study how people lived back in those prehistoric times, we may have at least developed into what could be termed a society, albeit a very dysfunctional one.
We sure as heck aren’t what could be described as ‘civilized’ when we’re making such bizarre accusations about our deceased fellow human beings, who were well known Good Samaritans, in such ways and NOBODY (bar the likes of us) even doubts the word of, let alone, questions those treacherous accusers!
We haven’t just come full circle, we’re now MUCH WORSE than just paedohysterical idiots, it looks like we’ve seriously descended into a state of true anarchy!
Very soon, nobody will be safe from these dangerous moral judgements and the consequences of them.
The only positive comment I can possibly offer about this one is, thank God Jimmy Savile is already dead.
Alan Vaughn
13 Jan 13 at 8:32 am
RE: We’ve come full circle now
The news stories about Savile are now getting so silly it makes me wonder how far this will go until those at the head of this operation will have to start censoring some of the claims to prevent the absurdity of all this becoming the monster they can’t control. But the longer they all keep straight faced and pretend the Emperor’s new clothes look splendid, the funnier this looks.
I seem to recall there was a case in U.S. politics where so many women were claiming to have been raped by some politician that they had to ‘put a lid on it’ to prevent the whole investigation being destroyed by an avalanche of absurd claims. Someone else here might fill in the gaps in my memory on this one.
Antifeminist – and thanks for that info about the funds of one of Savile’s children’s cancer charities being targeted. That shows how much they care for kids.
Deano
13 Jan 13 at 10:00 am
While on the topic of Dr Valerie
CharlatanSinason, why don’t the witch-hunters and the paedo-sleaze hungry (feminist manipulated) media, ever mention the TRUTH about these so-called ‘child-sexual abuse experts’?A schizophrenic fairy-tale author would have more credibility than this certified, card-carrying charlatan, yet the paedohysterical lynch-mob (aka: Western society), still PREFER to listen to and FULLY accept her brand of total baloney and fabricated fantasies, simply because it scapegoats yet another ‘despicable paedophile! Even a DEAD ONE!
“We want to lynch a paedo: Any ol pervert will do, any excuse, any reason, DEAD or ALIVE, let’s GET EM!!”
Alan Vaughn
13 Jan 13 at 10:49 am
Antifeminist:
‘We’ve come full circle now.’
(Sigh). I knew this was only a matter of time.
450+ cases of ritual abuse was a prodigeous achievement for such a busy guy—how do these crazies account for how much time this would have involved? Or how it could have been keep secret?
(Sigh again) Why bother with logic on such people?
Eric
14 Jan 13 at 1:03 am
Alan:
At least our ancestors in the Middle Ages had the excuse of not knowing any better. A lot of times they were incited by some politically or finacially interested party who preyed on their superstitions.
But what can be said for the 21st Century? This culture is committing mass-suicide.
I’m really beginning to believe that the casualties during WW1 and WW2 took so many of the best men from the British gene-pool that the former ‘Empire’ is on one, irreversible downhill slide back into prehistoric barbarism.
Eric
14 Jan 13 at 1:09 am
“The ‘victims’ are trying to freeze the assests of Savile’s charitable organizations and divide it amongst themselves.”
So much for their ‘if only one child is saved’ rhetoric! It’s paedohysteria for funand profit! LOL
This is the same thing that happened during the Catholic priest paedohysteria over here. The Vatican was more or less forced to settle out of court (American legal terminology for legally-sanctioned extortion) huge judgements which ended up bankrupting several Catholic charities and schools. The media never told us where all those dollars went afterwards, but considering many, if not most, of the Church’s accusers were Gay Rights Activists, it’s not hard to guess what happened to it all.
Eric
14 Jan 13 at 1:24 am
I somewhat forced myself to read the comments on the Express article to see if anyone sounded even remotely sane, without much success.
One commenter suggested that any media figure who defended Savile ought to be investigated themselves (LOL I wonder if that was really MikeeUSA out for revenge for getting banned here). According to another, former Prime Minister Heath and Admiral Mountbatten were also in on the satanic sex ring. All of them seem to agree that this permeates every strata of the British society—at least at the upper levels.
Interesting question here: why do all these satanic sexual deviants only seem to exist among the higher levels of society, and only the underclass is wise to what’s really going on? Food for thought.
Another thing nobody explained is how Sir Jimmy’s victims identified him, since according to their accounts, he was wearing a hood over his face. But, then the United Queendom started this investigation over the mere allegations of girls who had been interred in state mental institutions.
We’re getting closer to barbarism all the time…
Eric
14 Jan 13 at 2:21 am
@Eric
They were able to identify him with the expert help of one feminist child-sexual abuse psycho-therapist: Dr Valerie
CharlatanSinason, she was able to recover the repressed memories of these shocking experiences from the ‘victims’..(Make sure you follow that link and if you want even more fodder to really infuriate you, simply google her name…
It used to BAFFLE me why these phonies and total charlatans are not only not scapegoated or at least publicly ridiculed, but why they are not in prison for serious offences, such as perverting the course of justice, or worse; but then it finally occurred to me…
Of course: she’s helping to scapegoat a vile paedophile, so even lying and slandering is perfectly acceptable, because when dealing with these filthy perverts the law doesn’t even apply. They are not entitled to the protection of the law, because they are sub-humans, therefore they have NO human rights at all.
The police even approve of vigilantes killing them, with impunity. (theantifeminist actually posted an article on how they did absolutely nothing about a couple of facebook or twitter pages advocating for some vigilante justice to be effected on some ‘suspected paedos’, a few months ago)…
Just don’t dare question feminist male sexuality law and everyone’s happy. Right?
Alan Vaughn
14 Jan 13 at 9:49 am
Antifeminist & Alan:
Reading through Alan’s links, I’m somewhat surprised that the Satanic Ritual Abuse hysteria is still strong in Britain and Australia. It mostly died out over here during the 90s.
In line with Antifeminist’s goals for 2013, one successful move against the SRA hysteria happened in the courts. The late Anton LeVey, the founder of the so-called ‘Church of Satan’ brought a series of libel suits against the publishers of some of these witch-hunting books and actually won some judgements. He really performed an underrated task in standing up to these bullies. He was also pursuing a civil-rights case against them, since his church was a legally religious organization; I don’t remember how that case came out. Anyway, it did put a lid on the media for awhile, until they found new scapegoats.
Eric
15 Jan 13 at 1:22 am
@Eric
Hey I KNEW that f..king name ‘rang a bell’!
That vile piece of human excrement that calls itself a ‘Therapist’ (‘The rapist’ – of male sexuality), who is featured as the authority who ‘confirmed’ or asserted that the late Sir Jimmy Savile was part of a ‘satanic paedophile ring’ (in ‘The Express’ last Sunday) is the same ‘Therapist’ (The rapist): Dr Valerie Sinason, that Angry Harry actually confronted at a psychoanalysts conference, a few years ago!
Read his story here!
How, or WHY is this life destroying CHARLATAN allowed to do what she does, with total impunity?
How many families and lives has this horrible excuse for a ‘person’ destroyed?
She should be incarcerated for the rest of her natural life!
Yet she’s still out there free as a bird, without a care in the world (no conscience, no morals or scruples or anything), gleefully slandering GOOD people, like there’s going to be no tomorrow, but worse is that…
Needless to say: the paedosleaze addicted readers of that page of total slanderous MISANDRY, published in The Express last Sunday, believe every word she said about the poor, defenceless dead man!!
Alan Vaughn
15 Jan 13 at 12:51 pm
Alan:
LOL Angry Harry put those frauds in their places. I did like his addendum of questions for lawyers to bring up in court against such ‘expert witnesses’.
I am still am surprised though at the level that SRA allegations are believed in the United Queendom and Australia. Someone like Valerie Sinason would get laughed off the stage over here today. Hopefully somebody will challenge their lies in court, as Angry Harry suggested, because it did put a stop to SRA hysteria over here once some of these charlatans had to start forking over their profits back to the real victims!
Eric
16 Jan 13 at 2:57 am
@Eric,
Yes they certainly do – just read some of the reader’s comments under that article on Jimmy S. in The Express story.
To me it’s truly mind-boggling that ANYONE (who isn’t actually locked up in an asylum) could, let alone WOULD: really take a charlatan like Sinason, seriously!
Even a child would have enough common sense to think along the lines of: ‘Well if he’s a paedo, surely all he really wants is sex with a kid, so why all the satanic worship, hooded costumes and chanting mumbo-jumbo crap? – what possible useful or even titillating purpose could anything like that serve for a start?’
As for believing the repressed memories, garbage that she and other LOONIES of Sinason’s ilk advocate, (and use to destroy whole families, for no good reason other than to alleviate the pain of their own feminist, psycho-sexual jealousy) and the ‘recovery’ of those memories; well that’s about 1000 times more DUMB than believing that they would actually bother with satanic rituals!
Again, Angry Harry says it better than me:
Yet under that totally sickening raft of lies and unmediated SLANDER published in last Sunday’s The Express, there are comments such as this:
This is truly FRIGHTENING STUFF and comments like these serve as a good yardstick to measure the depth of DEPRAVITY and HATRED our society has now degenerated to.
So deep is the average person’s HATE and DEPRAVITY that it even twists their poisoned minds into genuinely believing lies that would otherwise make good BLACK FAIRY-TALES!
Alan Vaughn
16 Jan 13 at 10:03 am
Here’s some more breaking news on this story: after the Sinason article on Savile got some media attention, ‘Coast to Coast AM’, the most popular US late-night radio show is featuring this joker tomorrow (Thursday) night:
http://www.shatterthedarkness.net
to talk about SRA.
The reason this is important is because it’s an obvious ‘trial balloon’. The US media often funnels these kooks into alternative and tabloid outlets to gauge public reaction. Now, as I mentioned, the SRA hysteria has died down over here—this looks like the paedohysterics are plotting to revive it again. We’ll see how it plays out.
Non-US audiences can find Coast to Coast’s website and live-stream a radio station that carries it, and calculate your time zones if you want to listen in.
Eric
17 Jan 13 at 2:36 am
For an update, I did listen in last night. I took about two hours before the bookshelf and bed started looking appealing. Mostly it was a rehash of 80s and 90s SRA drivel, although the speaker discreetly mentioned that the Church of Satan was not involved in any of this.
Unfortunately, it appears that SRA hysteria might be ripe for a comeback in the US, since there’s been a lot of positive feedback to the interview.
I couldn’t help but notice though just how many of the SRA victims this guy ‘saved’ were young women. In fact, there was quite a bit of stories of restraining ‘possessed’ girls and having to comfort and counsel them afterwards.
Hmmmm….I wonder?
I wonder just how many of these White Knights would REALLY like to burn celebrities and wealthy guys at the stake—then afterwards have the priviledge of ‘deprogramming’ all these nubile young victims?
Just a thought….LOL
Eric
19 Jan 13 at 1:34 am
Well considering how in the past all of that ‘rescue’ work (not to mention the ‘discovery’ of SRA cases and its victims), was undertaken by horrible, misandric and ghastly looking lesbian, rad-fem ‘psycho-therapists’: I’d say you’re at the very least ‘barking up the right tree there’, Eric…
It would appear from what you’ve explained, that the same principles that are really underlying a now famous, award winning, virgin paedocrite’s intentions, when he invites similarly vulnerable and naive young women to his infamous Meet-ups; may also be the primary motives with these white-knights; who think they are similarly fooling the paedohysterical public, that they are concerned about the welfare of these supposed ‘victims’ of a fairy-tale.
A ridiculous story of Satanic Rituals, performed by ‘paedophile rings’ which were concocted by a bunch of looney, man-hating, rad-fem
psychoticspsycho-therapists, from their deranged sexual fantasies, back in the 1980′s, and which alarmingly: our supposedly advanced and informed society (of pitch-fork wielding, simpletons): BELIEVED EVERY WORD OF!!Alan Vaughn
19 Jan 13 at 1:21 pm
@theantifeminist
I don’t know what went wrong, but my reply to Eric (above) appears to have copied and pasted itself (at 1:21pm). I’m certain I only submitted it ONCE, but I think it is possible for that to happen if the text is still in my browser page and I reload the page? But I would then expect to see that message about a duplicate post attempt (that I always see when I ‘re-send’ a comment that went to the spam folder).
Alan Vaughn
19 Jan 13 at 11:30 pm
Alan:
No doubt the White Knights see opportunities here. ‘Vigilant Citizen’, the mRA blogger whose commenters called for Jimmy Savile to be burned at the stake has several videos of Britney Spears on his blog (and other teen/twenty-something singers). None of them are running sex rings like the evil Savile—VC insists they are all being mind-controlled and manipulated! Given his obvious ‘deep concern’ for Britney, I’m sure that if duty called, he’d gladly volunteer for the supreme sacrifice of ‘deprogramming’ her.
And besides the nubile, young female ‘victims’ it’s really interesting how many of these supposed ‘cult ringleaders’ are high-status guys with large female followings. It looks like the STU may have a subculture of males who operate from the same motives!
In reality, most of the satanic or similar cults I’ve ever seen never involved anyone but from the lowest economic and educational levels; IOW the same social strata as those who believe in the hysteria.
Eric
20 Jan 13 at 2:36 am
Or what I refer to sometimes as: ‘the lynch-mob’, or ‘our advanced and informed society of pitch-fork wielding, simpletons.
Alan Vaughn
20 Jan 13 at 11:00 am
Is that a nomination for paedocrite of the month for January Eric? Looks like Fraudtrelle will have to pull something out of his bag if he wants to defend his crown.
theantifeminist
20 Jan 13 at 7:15 pm
Antifeminist:
LOL, you can see for yourself…
http://www.vigilantcitizen.com
About the only thing worthwhile on this blog are the sheer numbers of sexy photos of Britney Spears, Katy Perry, Taylor Swift and other teen/twenties girls—all for educational and research purposes, of course.
There’s also a December article again where he fumes at the BBC for having the affrontery to raise money for children’s charities after the ‘Savile Outrage.’ The article has a cute picture of British actress Chloe Moretz and Anna Nicole Smith’s teen daughter just to underscore the point! LOL
Eric
21 Jan 13 at 11:42 pm