‘Online porn : ban this sick filth?’
One woman who I would have little hesitation in welcoming into the men’s rights movement is Dr Brooke Magnanti.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/sex/9552839/Online-porn-ban-this-sick-filth.html
With the Government’s consultation on ISP-level blocks for objectionable content now closed, everyone is awaiting the results, which will tell us whether the Government and ISPs are presumed to be more capable of parenting than actual parents are.
Personally I reckon the jury’s still out regarding whether kids today are any worse than they ever were, and I’m not the only one. But it would be very spoilsport of me to let a lack of facts get in the way of a good old moral panic.
See for instance Baroness Greenfield, a woman so keen to let us all know about the brain-melting dangers of t’internet that she has spent the past couple of years campaigning on the issue instead of, y’know, publishing any research data to show whether her conjectures are true. Last time I checked that was still the gold standard of scientific proof, but then I’m not so far up the greasy academic ladder so perhaps am out of touch with what passes for expertise these days.
Greenfield’s not the first to make claims about internet porn without hard evidence. As far back as 1995, Time magazine was mightily embarrassed when its splashy cover story ‘Marketing Pornography on the Information Superhighway’ was exposed as unreviewed, poorly conducted non-research. The experts who had rushed to endorse it found themselves having to distance themselves just as quickly.
Indeed, she’s a bloody legend!
Certainly a slightly different agenda and set of priorities than other ‘renowned’ female mRA’s, i.e. Typhonblue, Girl writes What, and Eivind’s friend: Nicole, plus many more…
All of those highly regarded (by conservative father’s of daughters right’s activists) female mRA’s have at least tried to show how they ‘understand’ male sexuality, but clearly they cannot really do that anywhere near as well as a woman who has had to understand it, because her career success depended on such a true and thorough understanding and ACCEPTANCE of it, as it really is; NOT how bitter and jealous femihags of the sexual trade union, paedocrites, redditors, Fattroll and mRA’s want us to regard it!
Alan Vaughn
7 Oct 12 at 11:09 pm
Let them ‘ban’ porn all day long – in fact I urge the government to act on this problem with strict draconian controls. Why?
It will prove once and for all that government intervention is useless and reveal them for the incompetent clowns they are – binary newsgroups will experience a renaissance and newsgroups were always a Wild West where anything goes, then you’ll also see image/video torrents sky rocket and the more computer savvy users will simply bypass their controls. For comparison, they’ve tried to ban warez ( illegal software) for decades, and you can still get anything you want off the internet.
To the censors I say “Yeah, good luck with that.”
Alex
8 Oct 12 at 2:43 am
Alex,
LOL! Very good point and that way we won’t even have to pay through the nose for smut anymore, in fact probably not have to pay anything at all for it. It will all be FREE and much easier to access.
They only impose these bans to appease the feminists and conservative religious puritans and because they would not even know how to find porn on the Internet (or for that matter: even in an adult store), they are all happy that its under control…
Alan Vaughn
8 Oct 12 at 3:03 am
That will be fine if you like crappy homemade amateur stuff on webcams. Because that’s all you’d have to choose from if nobody pays for porn. In fact, you could argue that the reason governments HAVEN’T cracked down on warez as much as they could is because they want to bring the porn business to its knees (and they have succeeded in that).
Compare the penalties for downloading (stealing) a hollywood blockbuster to that of looking at a picture of a 17 year old girl in a bikini online. Consider the lobbying and pressure from the multi-billion pound entertainment industry that is battling for survival,and yet only last week did a country (Japan) introduce prison sentances for downloading copyrighted material.
It does seem a co-incidence that Pirate Bay is hosted in Sweden, the home of radical feminism and anti-pornography, and despite all the supposed pressure that one would think is being applied to the Swedish government to take it offline, it is still there.
As an aside, if it wasn’t for all the pirated porn being downloaded, I’m pretty sure we’d have real virtual sex by now, and possibly even holographic porn. Digital Playground, one of the largest porn producers, were pumping money into researching holographic porn 10 years ago, now they’re almost broke because of pirating.
I also don’t doubt that feminists will fail to ‘stop porn’, or at least the consumption of it. In places like Iran and China, you can be locked away for life for downloading any porn, but it doesn’t stop people, as a look at Google search statistics will show. However, all those millions of Chinese and muslims must have a happy stress free life, after they’ve had their 10 minute wank and then all they can think about is the door being burst open in the middle of the night and being taken away.
theantifeminist
8 Oct 12 at 6:36 am
I’m not familiar with her Alan – you surely don’t mean his girlfriend Emma the Emo, author of a fine piece on American paedohysteria?
theantifeminist
8 Oct 12 at 6:46 am
“That will be fine if you like crappy homemade amateur stuff on webcams.”
I would not worry about that, AntiFeminist, given that hardware is constantly improving. Not too long ago, relatively speaking, webcams and crappy handheld 640×480 cams were the best we could do, but now HD video cams are quite affordable. People willing to post themselves on the web, can do so in high quality, and it will only get better.
I’m also surprised we don’t have holographic projectors yet – the tech is well understood, and so many people would make money on it – hardware manufacturers, electronics companies that assemble those projectors, big box stores, cinemas, movie studios… It would be the hottest selling item, even in a lousy economy. I know porn was a pioneer in bringing porn to the web, but this is bigger than just one industry so I wish they’d get it together.
As far as the warez scene tolerated only until the porn industry is brought to its knees, they’d have to really, really hate an industry, to take billions in loses and taxes, where the software companies are concerned – I’m not sure if feminist ideology would matter more than money to the gov.
My opinion is that software makers know private persons are not going to spend thousands on AutoCAD, Maya 3D, what have you, so they’re content to make their money off business licenses and treat the warez scene as market share – Adobe used this strategy I think, because they only tried to protect their software AFTER Photoshop became the industry standard.
Alex
8 Oct 12 at 8:27 am
Alan, I can honestly say I’ve never paid a dime for porn, since before the WWW early days. You can find anything out there for free, and if the production quality is not as high as the professionally filmed stuff, the amateurs are usually more genuinely into it.
The ability to create porn has only accelerated through the years as regular cameras/camcorders were replaced with digital, good quality gear now commonly found for hundreds. Pandora’s box is open now, and nothing they do will matter and high quality VR, capturing all the sensations, will be the ultimate expression of it – it would be nice if it came about before we died, eh?
Alex
8 Oct 12 at 8:36 am
theantifeminist,
No I did not mean Eivind’s girlfriend Emma (‘Emma the Emo’), I meant Nicole and I’m surprised you don’t know her because I thought you were referring to her when you mentioned in your recent comment about female mra’s, how I had praised her, even though she was a typical mRA in the way she expressed total support of Draconian male sexuality laws.
I only thought you were referring to Nicole, because she is the only ‘female MRA’ that I can recall praising anywhere on your blog; or did I comment favourably on some other female commentator, who I’ve since forgotten about?
Alan Vaughn
8 Oct 12 at 8:41 am
Sorry Alan, I remember now. Only I had no idea that she was Eivind’s friend!?? Is he aware of her views on the age of consent and 17 year olds being children?
theantifeminist
8 Oct 12 at 9:16 am
Good points Alex.
One other thing though – as myself and Highwayman have pointed out, another central reason for all these ludicrous laws on child porn is that it gives the gynocratic state the power over millions of men to smash into their homes and lock them away. The proliferation of amateur stuff on the net leaves every man open to this because there is no way you can surf for amateur porn and be sure that every person in every image you look at is over 18 (and remember, in Europe and Canada and Australia, they just have to vaguely ‘look’ under 18). Professional porn, of course, has strict over 18 ID requirements for all of their performers.
Good points about the tech continuously getting better. I keep referring here to the situation in just a decade or less away when people largely consume the internet on their HD (or even ultra HD) televisions, all equipped with high-definition webcams (if not inbuilt, on the latest version of Kinect or whatever). A large motivation behind the latest EU directive on ‘child protection’ was explicitly stated as stopping 17 year old girls stripping off on webcams.
I keep a close eye on holographic tech, and they ae really really almost there! In fact, the first holographic 3d monitors will go on sale early next year :
http://www.holografika.com/
This isn’t quite ‘real’ holographics (ie. the projection of light to create a real 3d simulation of the original source) – they still have to get sufficient processing power to do that, but as you say, they have mastered the technology and it’s been demonstrated even ‘live’ across an internet connection.
Another exciting development is 3d printing. If you combine this with kinect style 3d modelling/scanning, you could print out ultra-realistic sex dolls of any female you have images of. Then combine this with telepresence for virtual sex….
theantifeminist
8 Oct 12 at 9:29 am
BTW, I wasn’t criticising you for praising her, she obviously hoodwinked myself as well.
theantifeminist
8 Oct 12 at 9:32 am
I don’t know, but I’d be surprised if he isn’t.
I only discovered that about her, myself the day after I praised her. (After spending time delving into her rather extensive blog).
I only say she’s Eivind’s ‘friend’ because he had (and still has) a link to her blog.
I (prematurely) praised her after reading some comment which seemed very pro-MRA on Eivind’s blog…
Alan Vaughn
8 Oct 12 at 9:46 am
Yet another approach is to not conduct any research at all because you fear that it will most likely contradict your claims. The German Bundestag (Lower House) in 1995 promised to enlist a committee to investigate how much of a threat then-newly-emerging online pornography would be to children and in particular youths. Up to this day, it has failed to deliver any such promised study. But not to worry, in the deliberate absence of Bundestag-sanctioned hard data, conservative and femiservative politicians have perpetuated the myth of the harms of online pornography, which they have pulled either out of thin air or, by way of statistics laundering, graciously relayed from feminist and children’s charities that fabricate them. Well, who needs peer-reviewed cross-checked scientific data when you have feminist pressure groups wielding profound political influence.
inclinedreader
8 Oct 12 at 2:44 pm
Antifeminist,
I wasn’t aware of how close they are to commercializing holo technology, but that’s fantastic.
I was aware of 3D printing, am desperate to get into it for business and hobby reasons – I’d buy in now, but tech always improves and comes down in price in new industries, so I don’t want to buy in now, only to have to eat crow four months later when they come out with a new and improved model. It’s mind blowing that for example, if you like classic cars or motorcycles you can just print out a part that’s no longer produced – the technology is there now, but it’s just going to get better and it’s going to put a lot of power in the hands of the individual, hobbyist and small business.
Nothing will stop teen girls from exposing themselves on the internet – they’re just obeying the dictate to display themselves to excite interest in a breeding partner. The first man arrested under this new E.U. directive you spoke of should demand the girl is found and arrested as well – let’s see if they people and the gov have the stomach to take ‘innocent’ young women and arrest them, even though they were clearly forced to expose themselves… by societal pressure, yeah that’s it.
Alex
9 Oct 12 at 1:26 am