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For one, Fathers and Families has had some noticeable successes in using their lobbyist to get bills against PAS and other things killed in the CA legislature.

For two the NCFM now has ten offices including one in Canada whereas 5 or ten years ago they only had 3.

For three, there is greater awareness of things nowadays. Some of this stuff has spread into the much larger (or at least socially known) PUA movement. Also, I’ve been on the net 14 years. I can assure you that comments pages now seem to have much more male representation when it comes to being skeptical about feminism /chivalry than they did even five years ago, let alone ten.

So I don’t know. Obviously there ARE parts of feminism that appeal to the male protective and competitive instincts and these parts are likely to be spared any counterattack for a very very long time, barring a societal wide collapse.

But certain things that are being done in the name of family law and “For the children” and the pussy pass in terms of justice seem to be pissing off increasing numbrs of both women AND men.

What are the odds of that happening though?

Your example about the jews digging their own graves is befitting.

But the jews actually were threatened by heavily armed guards. Modern men actually produce, provide and pay for the weapons women use against them.

I got inspired to this after a long argument with a dear friend, who is a successful chief executive. He is highly intelligent, and likes to have sex with 18-25 year old prostitutes half or a third his age.

Yet he adamantly argued with me that having sex with a 17 year old is rape. And that there was no problem using the term “rape” interchangeably for a 17 year old fondled by her somewhat older boyfriend, a women dragged into the woods by a gang of knife wielding thugs and then “really raped” in all orifices.

The result of this brainwashing is mind boggling.

Now men’s right really is defunct. If anything, they shyly and carefully try to reactively reduce feminist damage.

* Maybe someone should start a men’s right movement with outrageous goals:
* take away women’s voting rights
* petition at the United Nations for the unalienable human right to buy and sell sex services
* Make women compete against men’s soccer teams and male boxers. Why can a women team become world champion if any third rate provincial male team could defeat them? Or a female boxing champion that would be wiped out by any male bar room brawler?
* reinstitute biblical right to wife beating, when rigorously limited to practices that don’t cause permanent damage
* mandatory jail terms for women who demean socially inept guys and damage their self esteem and well being.

The Taliban start looking reasonable to me. They also have a good solution for common criminals.

I am trying to be provocative and be half joking. But, maybe, lots of old wisdom and old habits were not so bad after all!?