It was with sadness, but not complete surprise, that I read last night of the arrest of men’s rights blogger Eivind Berge. Evind has been arrested for making threats on his blog against police officers.
Although I do not wish to sound disloyal to Eivind, and although I’m pretty sure that his threats were hyperbole and the ventilation of anger, having read them last night, it was hardly a surprise that they were taken seriously by the Norwegian police. W.F.Price has written a piece on Evind’s arrest at The Spearhead.
Eivind Berge is one of the few men’s rights supporters who is adamantly pro-male sexuality, and recognises that his duty as an MRA is to question feminist sex laws that criminalize and jail men – even those feminist laws that happen to co-incide with the selfish interests of father’s rights supporters or American puritans.
Having said that, I did find some of the opinions put forth on his blog to be extreme and reckless – such as that ‘rape is equality’, or that it is impossible for women to abuse boys.
Up until last night, I can’t recall reading any threats against the police on his blog, although I remember reading one post in which he discussed violence in a reckless and hot-headed way which left me a little uneasy. I chose not to drop my link to him, because I am of the opinion that allowing angry men, who can see what the feminist system is doing to men – themselves and others, a legitimate channel to vent their frustrations and complaints (via blogging) is the best way to avoid that anger from turning into violence. Again, not that I think that Eivind had serious violent intent, although I do not know him beyond reading his blog writing, and have never had any contact with him online or offline.
The position of this blog is and always has been that even one act of violence could do irrepairable damage to the men’s rights movement at this stage (the actions of George Sodini and Anders Breivik had absolutely nothing to do with the MRM – despite what the former statutory rape apologist David Futrelle pretends). There really is no moral or tactical excuse for violent action while we are still free to give a voice to our complaints, and especially when that voice is increasingly being heard (of course, attempts to silence the MRM and any opposition to feminist laws are growing by the day).
I would also never encourage others to do what I, myself, am incapable of doing (violence).
Our thoughts are certainly with Eivind, and let’s hope that the authorities in Norway recognise that his threats were hyperbolic and merely expressions of frustration at a feminist system that is destroying men.
I have read the same comments and many others he made in similar tones about all authorities linked in any way at all to what he quite rightly regards as the feminist police state he (and all men) are practically at the mercy of.
Without being too specific, some of his remarks give me the impression that what occurred yesterday was something he actually wanted and HOPED might happen. Once he is charged and has his day in court, he will probably use it as an effective soap box to impart his sentiments from his (excellent) blog into (at least the Norwegian) mainstream media…
The guy is very forthright and the fact that he publishes his real identity indicates that he has little concern for the consequences of his actions or his rhetoric, especially if it means he will convey what he regards as VITAL information to
meneveryone…I agree with Eivind and anyone else who comments on this blog and all other MRA forums, that most
menpeople in the world are blissfully unaware of the full effects that feminism is having on our society…Good points Alan. It is indeed difficult to interpret his recklessness in any other way. I hope he gives a good account of himself in court.
Besides, we have no violence to unleash. When you are weak and vulnerable, you don’t make threats.
Our thoughts are certainly with Evind, and let’s hope that the authorities in Norway recognise that his threats were hyperbolic and merely expressions of frustration at a feminist system that is destroying men.
I saw no threats against individuals, which in the US at least would keep it in the realm of protected speech. Of course, that may not be true in Norway. A government intrusive enough to demand that its citizens not engage in prostitution outside its borders can come up with any convenient excuse to keep him locked up.
Evind Berge is one of the few men’s rights supporters who is adamantly pro-male sexuality,
That’s fine with me, although I find some of his views a bit extreme. He’s absolutely right to be resentful of attempts by feminists to criminalize male sexuality.
If he’s silenced as a MRA, he will be missed. He was unique. Maybe he has wished for something like this to happen, who knows? Otherwise let’s hope his arrest turns out to be for the best for men’s rights. Let’s hope MRAs don’t waste too much time disassociating themselves from him (instead of demanding that the hundreds of violence-advocating bitches be arrested as well).
LOL—Speaking of Futrelle, he’s having quite an amusing tantrum over some comments (mine, in the interests of full disclosure) made about the Spearhead article. Might be worth a look if you enjoy watching him have a ‘bad hair day.’ ROFL
Futrelle is a feminist lackey of no significance.
True, but admittedly I did find being denounced by him as personally satisfying LOL
This is certainly an interesting summary of the situation, together with the blogosphere reaction :
http://norway-v-breivik.blogspot.no/2012/07/antifeminist-antipsychiatry.html
What I’m having difficulty understanding is why the Norwegian police chose to act now. Most of his cop killing statements appear to have been dated from 2009/2010 (which is why I hadn’t read them). The police refer to a comment he is supposed to have made about a specific day, time, and location that he was planning to stab a policeman (which would certainly have warranted his arrest), but I haven’t been able to find this anywhere on his blog, or any link to it. He’s also had a girlfriend for several months and during that time has repeatedly stated on his blog that his motivation for violence has gone.
It must be because of the Brievik anniversary coming up (July 22nd) and the Norwegian government wants a few arrests in order to reassure the public that it will never happen again (as well as justification for silencing heretical thinkers like Eivind).
He faces 8 years in prison if found guilty. The Norwegian state can also lock him away indefinately if they declare him insane.
According to the Norwegian reports, the police are hoping to make more arrests in his ‘circle’, trying to create the impression that they are disbanding a serious terrorist network. What a load of bollocks. I doubt if anyone in his social circle shared his views on feminism, let alone violence, and only a handful of men’s rights bloggers linked to him (myself being one), and none of us have ever encouraged or incited violence (in fact, just the opposite).
The fact that they are after his ‘circle’ based on a few off-the-cuff remarks he might have made 3 years ago is the omnious part of this story. This has the aura of an orchestrated effort behind it; our own Government-Media Complex is well known for these kinds of ploys.