Ephebophilia, Eastern Europe, and Activism

Ephebophilia (or ‘hebephilia’) is a word commonly bandied about online by individuals wishing to differentiate between men (like themselves), who are attracted towards underage teenagers, and ‘paedophiles’ who are sexually attracted to pre-pubescent children.  Of course, the media, and the legal system, makes no such distinction.  However, many who would champion the right of men to have sexual relations with girls currently under the age of consent feel strongly that if this distinction was more widely known and accepted then it could facilitate a  more reasonable public discussion on the age of consent and the laws and punishments relating to sex with teens.  Paedophiles are evil perverts and beyond the pale, but ephebophiles?  Well, they are not so very different from the average red-blooded man – they just like their women a little bit younger.  Yes, they are suffering from a clinical disorder, as paedophiles are, but it’s not so harmful and they are a lot closer to the normal spectrum than subhuman paedos.

So is ephebophilia a real thing? Does the concept serve any useful purpose in the context of the feminist war upon male sexuality and age of consent issues in particular?  And am I just as much as a hebo as some of my former readers who have championed the label in the past, such as ‘Human Stupidity‘?

As regulars will know, I’ve made a point of strongly disavowing the very idea of ephebophilia.  There are two good reasons for this.

Firstly, my experience of ‘ephebophiles’ both here and elsewhere online.  Self-identified ephebophiles tend to be universally 1/ clearly autistic 2/ tactically clueless 3/ prone to paedocrisy and even 4/ Left-Wing and pro-feminist (obviously some exceptions, such as HS) and certainly ‘anti-misogynistic’.

To put it bluntly, based upon my experience, such people are worse than useless in the fight against the Sexual Trade Union.  I’d rather go into battle against an Isis horde with only a dozen disabled, pacifist, transgenders alongside me than these creepy ‘ephebophiles’.  Hell, I’d rather take on a handful of Russian Ultras with a thousand English football hooligans to back me up.  That’s how pathetic these aspie hebos are when it comes to the street fight we are all in.

Secondly, I see no strategic advantage whatsoever in embracing the label of ephebophilia.  ‘Hebos’ are so clueless that they really do believe, in their aspie naivety, that the same hysteric mobs who burn down the homes of pediatricians will take kindly to a group defining themselves by a slightly different Ancient Greek term meaning ‘ perverted love of underage girls with hair and perky breasts’.

Of course, this isn’t quite fair.  Ephebophilia means ‘love of youth’ (form the Greek word for youth – ‘hebe’).  And the attraction to young post-pubescent girls is indeed normal. The point is, to paedohysterics, a word doesn’t change a thing.  David Futrelle, child snuff porn apologist and paedocrite that he is, is right to mock the idea that it could ‘win over’ feminists or the paedo hating population at large.  In fact, it could make things very much worse.  I have spoken here before of the fact that shows like ‘To Catch a Predator’, and ‘anti-paedophile’ vigilantes such as Stinson Hunter, nearly always target men who are trying to have sex with girls only a little under the age of consent.  They never try to entrap real perverts and child molestors.

The reason why we have this insane moral panic over ‘paedophiles’ is not because perverts who molest 5 year old children are hated.  It’s because society hates and fears even more the normal men who break age of consent laws by having sex with nubile young teens.  Paedocritical men are shouting at the bulge in their pants at the thought of climbing into bed with a sexy 14 year old, and all the legal consequences that would follow for them, and paedohysteric woman (and feminists) are shouting at the millions of men who would not even hide the bulge in their pants and openly pursue teenage girls if it wasn’t for the law, the shaming, and the feminist induced hysteria over ‘paedophilia’.

It is true to an extent that establishing the concept of ephebophilia in mainstream discourse would help to clarify what real paedophilia is and isn’t.  Real paedophilia is a psychological perversion involving the sexual preference for pre-pubescent children (in today’s USA, that means girls under the age of 10 or so).  But at the same time, I see absolutely no advantage in replacing one clinically defined pathology with another. Anti-feminism is the fight against the feminist suppression and pathologizing of normal male heterosexuality.  It is normal for men to be sexually attracted to females who have started puberty and who have the maximum number of fertile years ahead of them.

Ephebophile activists believe they can identify themselves as a group and fight for and eventually win their sexual rights, just as gays (supposedly) did.  No they can’t.  However, MEN can perhaps reclaim their sexual rights against feminists.  Only normal, heterosexual MEN can win in the fight against the war on male sexuality.

With all this said, however, I wouldn’t be honest not to add my own personal experiences over the last couple of years, and describe how they have perhaps enabled me to look at the ‘ephebophile question’ in a new and more nuanced light.  For some time I’d largely given up on dating.  I was getting older, I was still introverted and awkward around the opposite sex, and in any case, as ‘the Anti-Feminist’ I saw all women as rapists, every one of them limiting male sexuality in order to futher their own selfish sexual ends. Walking down the street and smiling at a pretty jailbait as an act of defiance was the limit of female involvement in my world.

For over two years now I’ve been spending the majority of my time in Eastern Europe.  As most readers accept here, Slavic women are much more feminine and better looking than their Anglo counterparts, with Russians at the very apex of the female beauty pyramid. Furthermore, they age rather differently too.  Yes, of course any normal man would be attracted to even an average Russian 15 year old girl, but the ‘Manosphere Myth’ that I’ve criticised here in the past regarding peak fertility and women reaching their maximum attractiveness at 21-25 isn’t so implausible when you constantly see such stunningly beautiful long legged slim women in their early twenties all around you.

In Eastern Europe I don’t get the achingly painful sense of regret at seeing a pretty 14 year old girl and thinking that by the time she is legal, she will already be losing her youthful charm and beauty. The fact is, in the UK, and even in countries such as France and Germany, the majority of girls are burnt out, bitter, overweight slags by the time they reach 18.  Because of diet, lifestyle, and genetics, even pretty 14 year olds do start to lose it by the time they are off to university. In Eastern Europe, puberty arrives a little later, lasts longer, and everywhere you turn there are 20 year old women who are ravishingly beautiful, have perfect skin, possess the long slim legs of ballerinas, and who wear elegant fashions with a graceful air.

Furthermore, I’ve fallen in love with at least a couple of such specimans.  One of them is now 26.  I have seen photos of her when she was a teenager and the curious thing is she didn’t look anything special even at 17.  By 21 she was modelling, and even now as she approaches her 30’s, I get jealous looks constantly when I am with her, even in a city where HB8s are the norm.  Even the likes of Krauser PUA would give me a nod of respect if he saw me with her.  Look closely and she has crow feet developing around her eyes.  Her skin is no longer perfect.  But if I could re-wind time I would not wish her any younger than 21.  And it’s not down to make-up either. I have seen her without, and she is still beautiful, and more beautiful than she was when she was a schoolgirl.

Another of my girlfriends is 20, and very pretty.  She still looks like a teen, and even behaves like one in many ways, though thankfully more in a cute than insufferable manner.  Although beautiful, I do not recieve so many jealous looks when I am with her as when I am with the woman who is a good deal older.  This girl, I only met recently. I have seen photos of her when she was 18, and she looked almost perfect.  I would have liked to have known her then, and I would still not object to a girlfriend such as her who is 16 or 17.  However, in Eastern Europe the age of consent is not such a weighty issue given the mass of beautiful females aged above even 18.  And this is probably why paedohysteria is primarily an Anglo-Saxon phenomenon.

So in the light of my experiences, how would I finally appraise ‘ephebophila’?  As to whether it is a real thing, I am both more and less inclined to say yes.  Despite my disavowal of the term here in the past, I somewhat suspected that I might be ‘a little different’ to the average man.  Not just in being honest about attraction to young teenagers, but perhaps more strongly attracted than most.  Although partly right, I think I had simply fallen into the same mistake that I’d rightly accused self-identified ‘ephebophiles‘ of making.  The honesty to accept that teens are attractive can lead you to identify yourself, even subconsciously, as ‘somebody who is attracted to teenage girls’ and different to other men, and to somewhat ignore the charms of slightly older females.   And this is compounded by the disgraceful state of femininity in the Anglo-Saxon world, a world in which the only feminine and loveable girls left are indeed mostly under 18.

If ephebophilia exists, therefore, it is not a clinical disorder, such as real paedophilia is, but rather a situation in a man’s life brought about by feminism and the state of women in the Western world.

And as a badge, it’s still tactically clueless and aspie.

My experiences of falling in love have also altered somewhat my views on ‘normal male sexuality’ in the sense that I now give more value to the merits of sex within a loving relationship.  Of course, I am not now claiming that the female monogamous system is ‘right’ for men.  I am currently in love with two beautiful women, and I think I have emotional room left for a couple more as well, hehe.  All I’m saying is I no longer mock the notion of love, and that sex with love is, after all, something that every man should be able to experience as part of a happy life.  I also look at porn less, and so I have to admit, I am closer to Eivind Berge’s view that real relationships are better than fapping.  However, I still feel that he doesn’t understand the dangers of giving the slightest credence to feminist arguments against porn.  And also, not many men can have girlfriends as good looking as his, and not many men approaching 50, as I am, can walk down the street with a beautiful 20 year old, or a HB9 26 year old, as I can.  Porn never stopped me having relationships.  Rather, it was a life-saving substitute in fallow times.  It also helped to keep the flame of desire alive as I sank into middle-age.

And that thought leads nicely onto a final word regarding my contribution to men’s rights activism and the lack of updates on this blog.  Yes, I am in some ways happier and more content than before, and therefore no longer feel the need or have the desire to carry the stress and time commitment of regularly posting articles here.  It’s also true that I certainly no longer feel any personal pain at current age of consent laws.  I would certainly be satisfied forever more at having relationships with beautiful Slavic girls aged 16 above, or even 18 above.  But this certainly isn’t the reason for my lack of involvement in men’s rights.  I still maintain that the ‘age of consent’, or more correctly, all the many issues that revolve around it, as part of the wider assault upon male sexuality by feminists, is the leading men’s rights issue.  But perhaps I am less inclined to maintain this site, just when I am finding some happiness and sexual satisfaction, to cater to disloyal self-identified ephebophile readers such as the likes of Jon or Human-Stupidity, themselves prone to paedocrisy whenever it suits them.

However, I will strive to write at least one decent article a month going forward, as well as reblog others such as Steve Moxon* and some Angry Harry classics as promised.

*As a final note, Steve Moxon is the best in the mansophere at distinguishing real paedophilia from attraction to post-pubescent teenagers, yet I believe he has never used the term ‘ephebophile’.

 

10 thoughts on “Ephebophilia, Eastern Europe, and Activism”

  1. “The reason why we have this insane moral panic over ‘paedophiles’ is not because perverts who molest 5 year old children are hated.”

    Truer words have not yet been spoken!

    If you watch the classic comedy movie “Airplane”, there is a scene where a man is reading, “PLAY BOY” magazine. It then shows a reverend (??pastor/padre) reading a magazine called “ALTAR BOY” – suggestive to say the least.

    “Airplane” came out in the late 70’s I think – and clearly – people knew about the crap going on in the catholic church – altar boys being molested.

    Where were the angry mobs? Where was the moral outrage?

    Non-existent.

    Now, compare that non-reaction to the reaction people are having over Bill Cosby/Hugh Heffner…

    I keep wondering too – what if Bill Cosby/Hugh Heffner were fags and had sex with boys… Would there be the same outrage? Would it get the same media coverage?

  2. Although you have continued to make false claims about me on your posts (I am thinking unintentional, and more the fact you just don’t like me and forget what things I actually said), I am glad that you have found happiness in these relationships. And I definitely agree that the way forward is focusing on this happiness over maintaining this site. I myself do not look at pages or youtube channels talking about mens rights stuff as much anymore. This is due to the fact that I have found happiness in my stream + talking with girls online. Yes, it sounds pathetic, but it honestly is a “substitute” like you mentioned with porn.

    I still wish you all the best!

  3. I have spoken here before of the fact that shows like ‘To Catch a Predator’, and ‘anti-paedophile’ vigilantes such as Stinson Hunter, nearly always target men who are trying to have sex with girls only a little under the age of consent. They never try to trap real perverts and child molestors.

    That’s because there are no such real perverts and child molesters for them to catch – such REAL perverts and child molesters are almost as rare as rocking-horse poop. They believe as you have rightly pointed out that ‘ephebophiles’ – i.e. normal red-blooded men are ‘perverts’ / ‘paedos’, thus are all almost unavoidably, paedocrites themselves, trying in vain to hide their own hard-ons when they look at teenage girls, (including in many instances, their own teenage daughters)!

    It’s nice to see you appreciating the fact that there is a real link between love and sex. I too have a beautiful 26 year old (Asian) girlfriend whom I am deeply in love with and I am in my late 50s. I have been divorced and in several relationships that (obviously) ended in failure, but none of those bitter experiences have destroyed my ability to find, as well as embrace true love. I only despise feminism, not girls 😉
    However, I could never have sex with a woman (i.e. ‘aged’) woman, or one that is too overweight or, one who is unattractive (to me). I.e. could not fall in love with someone I am not sexually attracted to either…
    IOW: Love and sex are an essential partnership.

  4. Peak is late teens, though most will look highly fuckable until late 20’s if they take care of themselves. Some a few years beyond that. However women beyond 35 evoke zero sexual desire in me, no matter how well they’ve kept up.

    Of course this is just my western perspective. I’m sure there are some Asian milfs who’d prove me wrong.

  5. I am not sure what the minimum age for marriage was in this country in the 1830s but in my researches on an entirely different subject I came across a law report from that time. The facts were that a singer named Emma Howson had gone on tour to Italy where she had met a lawyer by name of Albertazzi whom she married and obviously with her father’s consent and permission. Some years later on returning to England her Singing teacher brought a case alleging breach of contract. The court report, in setting out the facts, mentions the date she had been entered into the contract with the singing teacher and the date she had subsequently married – though it does not say whether in England or in Italy. There is no indication in the report of any disapproval of the facts of her marriage either from the Reporter or the Judges. At the time she married Emma was fourteen and a half.

    Madame Albertazzi sung with success at Covent Garden and La Scala though her stage presence was said to be uninspiring. She died in true operatic fashion in the 1840s of consumption aged just thirty-four. In a later post I will describe how Elvis Presley just about the most handsome man in the world and desired by just about every female was tongue-tied in the presence of the fourteen year old Priscilla Beaulieu. Reader, she married him.

  6. Ephebophilia does not exist. Who raises the banner of ephebophilia is preaching that attraction to adolescents is a disease or something abnormal, however you do not want.
    It’s like calling adultphilia (or teleoiphilia), who feels sexual attraction by adults.
    All normal men are attracted to adolescents. Those who deny, are being hypocritical!

    Adolescent/teen marriage is not child marriage.
    Porn adolescent/teen is not child pornography.

    Child is one who has not reached puberty (people under the age of 9). adolescent/teen is entered puberty (generally greater than 9 years old, with breast bud). And adult is who reached the reproductive capacity (usually older than 11 years old).
    12 years old is the average age of menarche.

    Pedophilia is the primary attraction for those who do not hit puberty (people under the age of 9). It paraphilia or disease because it is unusual to have primary sexual attraction to those who do not hit puberty because puberty is largely responsible for sexual attraction. Therefore, “normal” people have primary attraction for those who hit puberty (generally greater than 9 years old).

    The majority of nature is puberty, because the goal of puberty is the reproduction of the species. So it is a big mistake to associate pedophilia adolescents.

    People enter puberty to play, then one should be sexually attracted to make reproduction possible. So it is an error to extend the concept word for pedophilia include adolescents. It is a mistake to say that pedophilia is attracted to “minor” because every healthy human being has sexual attraction to adolescents because they are pubescent and puberty is responsible for the attraction, seeking the reproduction of the species.

    Child does not make child.
    Adolescence is not part of childhood.
    Adolescence is part of adulthood!

    It is an abomination to call adolescents|adults of “children”.

    Jewish tradition considers adult people over 12 years (woman) and 13 years (men).
    The Catholic Church used the age of 7 years old, the age of reason, to consider a valid marriage and to recommend the confession.

    The UN classifies child as anyone under 10 years of age and adolescent as someone between 10 and 20 years old.
    But, unfortunately, the UN also use the word “child” as a synonym for “minor” (usually under 18).

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