Are All Feminists Rapists? A Thought Experiment

I believe that our primary goal as a men’s rights movement that defends male sexuality should be to seek the prosecution of leading feminists for attempted rape.

Last night I was threatened with death by several women via Twitter, for pointing out that 15 year old Russian Yulia Lipnitskaya is one of the most beautiful and graceful females on Earth – something undeniably demonstrated by the global media adultation she has been subjected to during the Sochi Olympics.  Those same women, who would like me murdered for admitting this obvious fact, recently tweeted their desire to ‘permanently look like a 14 year old Brooke Shields’.

14-forever

How much more obvious does it have to be that feminist sex hysteria, and the constant criminalization and shaming of male sexuality, is the attempt to further the sexual opportunities of women?  Feminists would like to look like 15 year old girls, but if they can’t do that (which they can’t) the next best thing is to shame and even murder any man who dares to admit that finding 15 year old girls attractive is normal.

Attempting to co-erce another human being into sex is attempted rape under UK Law and under most sensible definitions, both legal and linguistic. This is what feminists are doing, and this is why they are rapists – or would be rapists.

However, one of my readers, the legendary tactical genius and stalwart of the men’s rights movement – Human Stupidity – has voiced his concern that he and most people do not, and cannot, ‘get’ the idea that feminists are rapists.  So I thought I’d try to illustrate my case through an analogy.  I’m sure there are better analogies out there, and perhaps my readers can suggest others, but this will do for now, that came off the top of my head as I read Mr Stupidity’s comment.  Here is my analogy and thought experiment – please take the time to read through it once or twice :

Imagine a barman who spikes every alcoholic drink at the nightclub he is working in with a drug that makes most women who consume it develop a paranoid delusion that sex with anyone but a barman is utterly perverted.  Further, the drug makes the women believe that sex with anyone but a barman will likely be punished with being brutally beaten and anally raped in prison as a subhuman pervert.  Part of the paranoid delusion is the belief that even woman who do not have sex, barmen or no barmen, are treated by society as probable perverts. Women who have not slept with barmen have been accused of being perverts by mobs, and burnt alive by them – or at least the women are made to believe this by the drug. Having sex with barmen, however, is ‘normal’.

As a result, despite the fact that there are far more attractive men in the nightclub, women are thus very keen indeed to have sex with barmen, and unsurprisingly, the barman gets regular sex with female clubbers.

Now imagine that for this drug to work most effectively, it has to be taken by many different women, many times, as its incredible effects are achieved partly by mass hysteria – other women whose drinks have been spiked developing similar delusions which then re-inforce those of other women. Therefore, the barmen are operating something like a ‘sexual trade union’, or as some others might describe it, a ‘cock cartel’. They are all in on this, all over the country – even globally – because they intuitively know that they must all act collectively and regularly spike the drinks of the women they serve with the drug for it to work on each individual woman and for each barman to improve his sexual opportunities.

The drug has a powerful effect on most women, but still the barmen are to some extent playing a numbers game. It’s not a case of spiking one individual woman’s drink and then knowing that she will have sex with him as a result. They have to spike the drinks of thousands of women, and further, to rely upon other barmen around the world spiking the drinks of thousands and millions of other women. And it is important to note that even then they don’t know which woman will ultimately have sex with them. In fact, any woman who does have sex with any individual barman might have had their drink spiked by a different barman. It might even be the case that the woman would have had sex with the barman even if her drink hadn’t been spiked. It is virtually impossible to prove in each instance of sex. We can only say that the barmen deliberately spiked the drinks of thousands of women in order to collectively improve their opportunities for sex by instilling a fear of not having sex with barmen into the minds of women, as well as a false sense of ‘normal’ and ‘perverted’ sexual attraction.

Now are the barmen rapists? I would say obviously they are, and they would be treated as such under most legal rape definitions in most countries, regardless of feminist ‘re-definitions’.

And you can be sure that every feminist on Earth would not hesitate to call them rapists and demand their imprisonment.

Especially if their lives depended upon it.

Definately not a 14 year old Brooke Shields.
Definately not a 14 year old Brooke Shields.
Brain bleach - 14 year old Brooke Shields
Brain bleach – 14 year old Brooke Shields

 

21 thoughts on “Are All Feminists Rapists? A Thought Experiment”

  1. A different approach would be to “move the goal posts.” Agree with feminists that a man who is attracted to girls is a pedophile. However, Yulia Lipnitskaya is NOT a “girl,” she is a “young woman.” She is a young woman since she is biologically adult. The same goes for 14 year old Brooke Shields. In The Blue Lagoon, the fact that the character played by 14 year old Brooke Shields is a young woman (and no longer a girl), is an important part of the plot.

    This would actually be moving the goal posts back to where they were before. Pedophilia used to refer to attraction to biological girls only. Over time, feminists have been stretching the definition further and further.

  2. Thanks Zed. We have differing points of view here regarding that approach, but you’ve expressed it very cogently and it has a lot of merit.

  3. In the real world, feminists are far greater rapists than even these barmen. In my analogy, the fear of the women that they will be raped in prison is not real but a delusion. In the real world, feminists have made it so that men who have sex with teenagers rather than women are likely to be sent to prison where they will stand a realistic chance of being anally raped and beaten (especially in the USA, or Brazil). And they have done this simply in order to co-erce men into having sex with (older) women rather than teenage girls.

    I’m not sure how anyone can still doubt that this is rape.

  4. Zed:
    I agree with that approach. Part of the problem is though that Cougarish femihags also hypocritically refer to themselves as ‘girls’.

    BTW, are you the same ‘Zed’ who also is known as ‘Zenpriest’ and has a column at No-Maam’s blog?

  5. BTW, are you the same ‘Zed’ who also is known as ‘Zenpriest’ and has a column at No-Maam’s blog?

    I think it’s the same Zed who even Angry Harry tips his hat to, and who is regarded as one of the ‘fathers’ of the men’s rights movement, along with Harry.

  6. I think if you said these barmen, and feminists create a “rape culture”, that would be more compelling.

    A culture where men are re-programmed to seek older hags, for fear of young women. Didn’t we just discuss that fear?

    A culture where men remain sexually faithful to obnoxious fat wives for fear of getting divorced, condemned to pay and not to see the kids. And for being afraid of being shamed, attacked, fired for sex with 25 year old “jail bait” half their age.

    That seems very cogent to me.

    It is very hard to know which individual act of barman sex is rape, and who caused the rape. But a rape culture, where barmen conspire, long term, to get sex with otherwise unwilling women, that would make total sense.

  7. No, all feminists and most reasonable people would agree that the barmen are rapists.

  8. It is very hard to know which individual act of barman sex is rape, and who caused the rape.

    Yes, that’s why I pointed that out in the article. And those barmen would be prosecuted for attempted rape, or conspiracy to rape.

    that would be more compelling

    To be honest HS, I’d be more worried if you did find it compelling, than if you didn’t.

    I’m honestly not trying to reach out to people with your type of mind.

  9. Antifeminist

    I was wondering if he was the same person. BTW, Rob Fedders archived all of Zed’s material at No-Maam under the heading ‘The Wisdom of Zenpriest.’ So, it’s like an online book if anyone’s interested in checking it out. I didn’t know if Zed was still active in the Manosphere, hopefully he’s come back!

  10. I would like to ask you HS – what do you think you have achieved so far tactically, after 6 years of running your blog?

  11. I would love to see the New York Times, or Fox News to sport a head line: “All feminists are rapists, researchers prove”

    This basically sums up what an aspie you are HS. I’m not asking researchers to prove anything because I know its futile and wouldn’t change a thing. I’m asking for angry men to come to our cause.

  12. And please if you want to continue posting here try to keep your comments a bit briefer and to the point. I don’t think my other readers appreciate these long pedantic discussions and I don’t want the comments here to degenerate into such aspie and pointless discussions, with one side apparently having no capacity or awareness of tactical context – which is why I banned AB and DogMeat.

  13. I missed this post and now I almost wish I hadn’t read it. As far as your barman analogy, I hear you, brother,; loud and clear. So sorry you had to bear with such hypocritical abuse.

  14. I don’t know that the barmen should be considered rapists, given that the drug doesn’t directly coerce anyone into have sex with them. A woman can still choose not to have sex with a barman – of course she may instead have sex with a barman, but it would be of her own volition. Drugging the women is immoral and probably criminal also, but I don’t think rape would (or should) be the charge leveled at the barmen.

  15. I don’t know that the barmen should be considered rapists, given that the drug doesn’t directly coerce anyone into have sex with them.

    Thanks for taking the time to read my article and to give some feedback, I appreciate it.

    Well…feminists in the EU have defined sex with young people below a certain age (13 in the UK) to be ‘rape’ no matter how willing they are. ‘Statutory rape’ in the USA says much the same thing. There is no need for direct co-ercion.

    However, I take your point that I am defining rape as ‘co-ercion’ which is a reasonable definition that most would agree to, so I have to answer your objection.

    My analogy is difficult to take 100% seriously because no drug we know of can produce such a definitive set of deluded beliefs (for example, that I will be put in extreme danger if I don’t have sex with a particular person).

    Therefore, people like you and Human-Stupidity intuitively feel it is too much akin to the feminist inflated definition of rape (there being no direct physical co-ercion).

    However, leaving aside the fact that it is clearly rape by feminist standards, and we whould be willing to use their weapons against them, so to speak, I still feel it is obvious that in this case that the feminists are rapists or attempted rapists. They are using the fear of violence and harm to obtain sex. It’s not akin to, for example, a PUA using tricks to convince the woman that he is an attractive alpha when he is a beta (and we know feminists consider puas rapists). The key point is that the barmen are using the fear of violence to co-erce women into having sex with them. That should satisfy any reasonable definition of rape.

    Just as in the real world, feminists are using the very real fear of being put in prison to be anally raped if you dont’ ‘conform’ in order to improve their chances of sex and effectively co-erce the mass of men into having sex with non teenage women (and non-prostitutes etc).

    I would also point out that if people have a problem with ‘men identifying themselves as rape victims’ then you’re missing the point entirely. The focus here is on shaming feminists as rapists, not going around claiming to be a traumatised male rape victim.

    They’ll be plenty of time for us to consider whether men can be victims when we are being brutally anally raped by our cell mates in 20 years time as a result of feminist legislation designed solely to improve their own smv.

  16. ha, wow… such hypocrisy coming from these girls. I never heard of brooke shields until I came to this site awhile back. Isn’t it interesting though that when you remove the masks of people online, they are more willing to admit their true feelings? However, if I were to ask any of my female friends, or these girls from twitter in real life if they would love to have the body of Brooke Shields at 14 years old, they would scream pedo. If only you could perform a scientific study into a conversation between girls talking about Brooke Shields. Like a weekly video compiling all the girls speaking enviously of such bodies.

    Oh, it also goes without saying I am on board with your analogy (nailed it perfectly). I just wish I had the nerve to share this page on my facebook… Unfortunately the sad reality is that it would ruin almost all of my relationships, and most certainly any friendships I have with younger girls. Makes you realize what kind of friends I have if none of them can think critically and rationally about this growing problem….

  17. A comparison can be made to the near universal religious dislike of porn and prostitution.

    Most people understand that Christianity teaches that porn (or masturbation) is evil because it provides an outlet for the sex drive that does not result in a sexual relationship.

    In other words, they are trying to get people to fuck (within marriage) rather than wank.

    But most people also understand the obvious that Christians have a wider social aim in doing this (they want to ‘improve’ society, or simply produce more good little Christians being born).

    However, feminists are simply trying to get men to have sex with THEM. It is purely a sexually selfish motivation.

  18. “Feminists would like to look like 15 year old girls, but if they can’t do that (which they can’t) the next best thing is to shame and even murder any man who dares to admit that finding 15 year old girls attractive is normal.”

    Never have truer words been spoken.
    Given that most women my age look like something the cat dragged in, and that even looking at a beautiful teenage girl is tantamount to a crime these days (and one wonders how long it will be before they stretch that even to mid-20s females), and that I have no intention of doing anything illegal, it would appear that my fate is to die alone, unloved and unsatisfied.
    Thanks a bunch, feminism.

  19. “. A woman can still choose not to have sex with a barman – of course she may instead have sex with a barman, but it would be of her own volition.”

    think of it in these terms- if you make a scenario where the choice is something unappealing or something terrible, isnt it – in its own way- coercion and applied to sex…rape?

    ive heard feminists argue for years that much less than this committed by men constitutes a form of rape.

  20. if you make a scenario where the choice is something unappealing or something terrible, isnt it – in its own way- coercion and applied to sex…rape?

    ive heard feminists argue for years that much less than this committed by men constitutes a form of rape.

    Exactly Jake – and the point is by feminist definitions, what they are doing in attempting to co-erce men into sexual relationships (with the feminist demographic) is nothing less than rape.

    Feminists even claim that PUA and GAME is ‘rape’ because it involves some kind of ‘manipulation’ of female psychology, even though no co-ercion or violence (or threat of violence) is involved, but simply a man presenting himself to a woman as more attractive than he is (i.e. Alpha rather than Beta, no more rape than a female putting on make-up is raping a man).

    Feminism is the rape of the male on an industrial scale.

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