Angry Harry New Articles – Must Read

Three new absolute masterpieces from the father of Men's Rights :

Emotions are the Key

The Recovery of Recovered Memories?

Much to my dismay, a few days ago, I stumbled upon an article on an  MRA website written by a man who was claiming that he had been raped by a  woman 20 years ago and that, as a result, he had suffered significant  trauma.

As I scanned it briefly, I began to groan inwardly.

Not because I have any objection to men writing about any woes that have arisen as a result of their various mishaps with women - indeed, I've  spent many years wailing about such incidents myself - but because, in the  case of this particular article, I recognised certain characteristics  which troubled me.

And the term 'recovered memory' almost immediately sprang to my mind....

...I forgot that one must never question the suffering of victims. And  whatever they say must be true.

And I have now even received emails asking me whether or not I was  drunk when I was making my comments.

LOL!

Well, actually, I was a bit - but not enough to cloud my mind.

Disoriented perhaps - mostly by old age and by my complete and utter confusion  over the  comment flow - and also thoroughly exasperated at seeing some old abuse myths coming  up again.

But the driving force behind my somewhat confused energy was not  alcohol at all.

If anything, it was mid-level panic from thinking about all the horrors that generally arise from the typical activities of those who believe in the veracity of "recovered memories". And it was also mid-level   dread from thinking about all the extra hysteria that would be generated  by associated parts of the trauma industry should their empires be  encouraged to grow by men's activism.

And the thought that both might be gaining traction in the Men's  Movement - something that would be absolutely catastrophic, both for men, in general, and for the MM itself  - was fairly unbearable.

Traumatised by a Tomato

 

31 thoughts on “Angry Harry New Articles – Must Read

  1. Eric

    I’m glad Angry Harry is back—both the first two articles sum up the current state of the MRM more than anything!

  2. theantifeminist

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    Agreed, and it’s difficult to see how any of the leading men’s rights sites can continue to co-opt with the feminist abuse industry now that Harry has stated his own position so clearly.

    BTW, do any of you know the mra who Harry is referring to (the one who claims to have been raped by a woman 20 years ago)?

    Our friend Eivind has an interesting new post too : http://eivindberge.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/civil-commitment-is-new-frontier-of.html

  3. Alan Vaughn

    Well it is timely and answers my question in my earlier comment here:
    I forgot to include feminist defined mangina victims among the small list of accepted criteria for mRM membership!

    And YES, not surprisingly Harry is talking about AVfm. The comments denouncing him and in fact that totally DENIGRATE him are fucking SHAMEFUL.
    Go there and read it yourself if interested – I will not link to AVfm, but this pathetic piece of manginism and feminist c..t crawling, can be found there under the post titled “The rapists & victims they refuse to see” by mRA: James Landrith. Date Jan 23rd.

    They make me SICK!!

    The motto for the new-age mRM:
    “Equal Injustice for ALL!”

  4. theantifeminist

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    And YES, not surprisingly Harry is talking about AVfm. The comments denouncing him and in fact that totally DENIGRATE him are fucking SHAMEFUL.
    Go there and read it yourself if interested – I will not link to AVfm, but this pathetic piece of manginism and feminist c..t crawling, can be found there under the post titled “The rapists & victims they refuse to see” by mRA: James Landrith. Date Jan 23rd.

    Some of the comments from those thick paedocrite peanut brains are just beyond belief.

    ‘Codebuster’ points to first hand evidence that young pubescent girls enjoy sex with older males as much as boys do with women, but still wants feminist statutory rape laws enforced…equally!

    Of the girls who enjoyed the experience, they have different, more subtle ways of celebrating with their hi-fives. Of course for people that young there are consequences, and that’s why the law provides for statutory rape… but these laws should be applied equally irrespective of the sex of the child.

    No you dumb fuck, the law provides for statutory rape because puritan feminists back in the 19th century created these laws for reasons of sexual trade union protectionism. The very same feminists who were handing out white feathers to traumatised 15 year old war veterans (that’s REAL childhood trauma) and criminalizing homosexuality and prostitution. The only ‘consequences’ young people face from sex are the forced victimhood of them by the feminist abuse industry.

    Instead of the fake rape that this James guy is recounting, we should be focusing on the rape by proxy that feminists are committing on a mass scale. The fact prisons are already overcrowding from men being put there for looking at pictures of 16 year old girls in thongs – under feminist laws. And the fact that these laws are there to increase the liklihood of their makers and their supporters (I.e. most women) being able to get sex from men, using the threat of prison (and the likelihood of being raped by another man whilst in there) as a deterrence from pursuing alternatives to having sex with them. If this is not rape, and the real rape of men and male sexuality, I don’t know what is.

  5. theantifeminist

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    Oh my God. It’s 26 degrees here, the beach is packed with topless 16 year old girls, but I’m in my hotel room reading that comment thread at AVfM. I honestly can’t believe what I’m reading. Is Paul Elam really trying to kick Angry Harry out of the men’s rights movement now?

    “I know that I am coming across as heartless over this issue, but I am totally conscious of the fact that hysteria – for want of a better word – causes far more harm than good; particularly for those who have been abused.”

    The only thing hysterical here (and I can think of several other adjectives) is your conduct in an environment promoting unity among men. And it is going to stop, now.

    A good MRA would have just made a thoughtful post (and many of us did) about our concerns over rape hysteria and victim politics. That is not what you did and I won’t pretend, even for you, that it is. What you did was mock and ridicule someone on a personal level who was INVITED here to tell his story about how he was drugged, raped and threatened with proxy violence by a woman. You attempted to pathologize his activism and belittle him to make your point.

    That is not what AVFM is about, and with out without your presence, it never will be.

    I won’t listen to another hollow, hypocritical word from you about what causes more harm than good till you start acting with some of the respect you have always been treated with on this website.

    If you can’t handle that, feel free to see yourself out.

    Damn it, I can’t take anymore. I’m off to the beach to perform my mRA duty and tell those 16 year old girls to cover themselves up lest they be traumatised for life by a paedophile looking at their double D ‘child’ breasts. Cheque in the post to Paul Elam, TyphonBlue, and Dean Excrement Esmay.

  6. Alan Vaughn

    @theantifeminist
    Yeah, but what REALLY amuses me about that whole article is what that total pathetic mANGINA describes about his ‘traumatic experience.’ I had many encounters such as that, when I was in my late teens or early 20′s and NO: they didn’t get me drunk (I managed to do that very well myself, without the help of some 40 to 50 year old drunken pub-slut), and NO: they didn’t ‘spike’ my drinks with Rohypnol either.

    I had sex with some lonely old drunk bags (aka ‘Cougars’ these days), because I WAS DRUNK, my perspective of the women was somewhat clouded (erring on the side of attractive) and because I WANTED to have sex with them. NOT because any of them ‘raped’ me, and even if they did, I ended up with an erection, sufficient to facilitate sexual penetration, thus at the end of the day: it was MY choice to have sex with them.

    Also… YES, I remember every little detail of each liaison and I don’t need to write a pathetic mangina sob-story in order to advocate the new-age mRA motto “Equal Injustice for ALL” either…
    That whole blog makes my sick.

  7. theantifeminist

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    The only guy who talks sense in that thread apart from Angry Harry is Stu. I wish he’d comment here occasionally.

  8. Alan Vaughn

    @theantifeminist

    Oh my God. It’s 26 degrees here, the beach is packed with topless 16 year old girls, but I’m in my hotel room reading that comment thread at AVfM. I honestly can’t believe what I’m reading. Is Paul Elam really trying to kick Angry Harry out of the men’s rights movement now?

    Well its night here now (in Oz), but today it was 36 deg. and I was out there mowing my huge lawn (1/4 acre block).
    You know to be totally honest (you may not appreciate this, because I do understand you had your own share of problems with him: Human-Stupidity), but Paul Elam doing that to Harry doesn’t surprise me at all.
    I believe (and have for a long time) he’s a classic paedocrite and I don’t like what he said to our ‘associate’ Human-Stupidity either.

    OK, Yes he has done a lot for the MRM and has shown great courage, but his behaviour of late, totally diminishes and mocks any good work he’s done in the past. He might as well go and join the lynch-mob over at Vigilant-Citizen.
    I think the feminazi’s have got him and have successfully indoctrinated him.

  9. jack

    @theantifeminist: you just beat me to it, I was about to copy and paste the same P.E’s rebuke to Angry Harry as you did! I can’t believe my eyes when I read that rebuke considering the person being rebuked in this way is no less an MRA than Angry Harry, whose articles I massively print out for reading during flights owing to both their impeccable MRA content and the quality of the writing.

    And I’m glad I didn’t yield to my first temptation to log in again to AVfM and chip in with a post of my own saying I would’ve been happy to get raped by quite a few of my female teachers when I was a randy teenagers with only my own hand for sexual solace.

    What I’ve done was log in and upvote AH’s post (plus a couple of Stu’s posts) + downvote the particularly noxious Primal’s posts. I’m not surprised Stu in on Harry’s side on this. Stu has always spoken with the voice of good old male common sense (not to mention his remarkable way with words).

    By the way, in one of his latest youtube videos, Barbarosaaa incidentally said MRAs should not try to “outrun women in some victimhood olympics”. I think the MGTOW school of men’s rights activism (to which Barbarosaaa belongs) is one we can live and work with. As to the AVfM school, in spite of its activism ….. And I’m somewhat disappointed at JTO’s intervention too. I would’ve thought he could’ve done worst than limiting the damage inflicted by PE in the above-mentioned post.

  10. theantifeminist

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    @Jack It’s not even as if Angry Harry was ‘mocking’ James. I didn’t see any mocking or any rudeness on Harry’s part, just an honest concern over whether validating the trauma myth and adopting the abuse industry is a good thing for men’s rights. Surely Paul Elam can see that the father of the men’s rights movement has earned the privilege to make those concerns known, even on AVfM? Angry Harry even made the biggest donation to AVfM (stated by Paul Elam himself). Appears that Paul Elam is so confident of his place in the MRM now that he even feels he can ridicule and ostracise Angry Harry if he gets in the way of his business model.

    Angry Harry, whose articles I massively print out for reading during flights owing to both their impeccable MRA content and the quality of the writing

    I’ve put most of his articles onto my Kindle and always read them when I’m on holiday.

    What the MRM needs is an alternative to AVfM. A site that can attract the best authors, engage and inspire real activism, and still be authentic in calling out the Sexual Trade Union in every aspect of it’s war on male sexuality – and definitely not co-opted by their evil sex abuse industry.

    As regards John the Other, I’ve been losing faith in him and it’s unsurprising to me that he won’t back Angry Harry over Elam and TyphonBlue.

  11. theantifeminist

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    TyphonBlue :

    If you think about it a good portion of the men who are saying things like “you got lucky” were likely victims themselves. Since they can’t hope for any kind of help with dealing with their victimization, saying “I got lucky” is a way of distancing themselves from the pain and closing it off from every day reality.

    And the ones who weren’t victimized live in a society where their consent is effectively meaningless; they are sexually available to women whenever women want, regardless of their own wishes. Subconsciously they are aware of this reality and when you’re in a society where a woman can sexually exploit you whenever she wants with legal and social impunity, perhaps the only way to defend yourself psychologically is to pretend you don’t care about consent in the first place. It’s not like men’s consent is something that society’s going to respect any time soon.

  12. Jack

    No Miss Typhon Blue, not men, maybe women can say “I got lucky” and next day cry rape, but not men. If a man says “I got lucky”, it means he did, he got a blowjob, or he got some pussy, and he enjoyed it and would like more of the same.

    Regarding AVfM, one theory is that James Landrith is a major donator and PE, as host of a site by now heavily dependent on donations for its activism, has no alternative but to defend him. But I confess I’m aghast at the tone in which he did so. He could’ve said “I’ve got do disagree with you on this one Harry, with all due respect, and most of the members of this side will not follow you on this etc.” That would’ve been amply sufficient. I’m giving PE credit for not being 100% sympathetic to the victimhood bullshit, but maybe I’m wrong here too. Those Americans can be unpredictable when it comes to sexual matters.

  13. Alan Vaughn

    @jack

    No Miss Typhon Blue, not men, maybe women can say “I got lucky” and next day cry rape, but not men. If a man says “I got lucky”, it means he did, he got a blowjob, or he got some pussy, and he enjoyed it and would like more of the same.

    And therein lies the whole problem and what will eventually (if it hasn’t already) will destroy the MRM. You simply cannot have women especially KNOWN FEMINISTS in a men’s rights movement!
    PE is a classic paedocrite and he’s too worried about what those ‘lovely sheilas’ might think and would say (on his mangina’s blog) if he showed any form of dissent against the dominant narrative of the abuse industry.

    What he’s effectively doing now is the ultimate act of betrayal. He’s shitting on the father of MRA to make himself look ‘femRA friendly’. He has allowed those imposters to destroy all the good work he (and ANGRY HARRY) started.

    As Harry tried to tell him, and all his mangina cronies and femRA’s: supporting organizations such as the wicked NSPCC and the ‘abuse industry’ in general will help NOBODY, but the feminists movement and its family destroying, but extremely well run and profitable abuse inventing business!

    At least Angry Harry sees it the way we do and I think THIS blog would be the ideal alternative to A Voice for manginas

  14. Eric

    When I scrolled through that AVfM article, I noticed that the banner “Angry Harry is the Father of the MRM” was not present anymore.

    Reading Elam, Esmay, JTO, Ms. Typhon: all I can say is that this bunch of mangina losers have shown their true colors in spades. They don’t speak for men in any capacity whatsoever. But they DID announce today the inclusion of a new ‘Sheila’ to head their editorial functions in Canada.

    At least Fraudtrelle has brains enough not to let his insipid female groupies actually MANAGE his blog.

  15. Eric

    Alan:
    “He has committed the ultimate act of betrayal &c.”

    You’re absolutely right. There’s practically nothing left of the American MRM, all the REAL voices for men are coming out of Europe now: here, Eivind’s, Rookh, Angry Harry, & Inquisition 21.

    Neofeminism is what they’re promoting and it’s positive that Europeans and Australians haven’t been taken in (with the disappointing exception of Codebuster, an Australian MRA who used to write some good posts).

  16. Eric

    Antifeminist & Jack:
    Typhon’s whole argument—and for that matter, Esmay’s and Elam’s too—is premised on the feminist principle that all sex is really rape. How else can anybody equate male sex with ‘victimhood’ like this?

    As Rookh has pointed out, it’s customary in some Asian cultures (it also used to happen in America during a less politcally correct era) that fathers actually used to take their sons to sex workers about the time they were 12-14 years old. The whole purpose of this was to give the younger men sexual confidence and experience: hardly a ‘traumatic’ event!

  17. Alan Vaughn

    @theantifeminist
    Yes I read Eivind’s recent post on this same topic, very well put – as is everything he offers for discussion or consideration.
    His final paragraph is very befitting to this thread too.

    While many so-called MRAs these days sadly are busy promoting the feminist sex abuse industry as long as it upholds equal injustice for women as well as men, I direct my activist hatred squarely where it is deserved at the feminist sex abuse industry itself and its core values. Those core values are hatred of normal male sexuality, plain and simple, and the only rational thing for men to do is to band together and fight back against the abuse industry.

    No prize for guessing the name of the blog he read to make that (first) point! (“Equal Injustice for ALL”).

    However, the story he actually refers to is probably the most disgusting article on male hatred I’ve even imagined, let alone heard of, or read about.
    How can such hate-riddled, JEALOUS, psychotic fucking femihag COWS and SOWS do things like that with total impunity?
    The answer’s rather obvious I think:
    I think Eivind forgot to mention that it’s not only ‘the feminist sex abuse industry itself and its core values’, but the paedohysterical and HATEFUL lynch-mob for a society, that not only accepts the industry and its ‘core values’ but it EMBRACES them, and sadly: we are just one tiny, insignificant part of that ‘society’…

    Another thing I like about Eivind’s blog is the quality of comments that normally follow his posts.

  18. jack

    And while all this is going on the parafeminists at men’s Reddit are vilifying AVfM, alas not for embracing victimhood or banning any debate about AOC, but for doing what everyone here will agree AVfM does well and should continue doing, i.e. exposing feminist-driven violence and misandry. Men are not out of the woods yet.

  19. theantifeminist

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    Another thing I like about Eivind’s blog is the quality of comments that normally follow his posts.

    Yes, but they eventually turn into a wall of Norwegian text – which of course is understandable given that Eivind is Norwegian and is now quite a celebrity in his homeland.

    We’re lucky that Eivind writes in English, and not only that but I can think of only AngryHarry who has a more precise, economical, and logical way of expressing his arguments in the English language. Shows how well educated Eivind is and what an impressive intellect he has.

  20. Alan Vaughn

    @theantifeminist

    We’re lucky that Eivind writes in English, and not only that but I can think of only AngryHarry who has a more precise, economical, and logical way of expressing his arguments in the English language.

    Yes for sure, it’s that ‘economic’ yet still very articulate and concise writing style that makes their posts so informative, easy to read and such a pleasure to read.

    If say our friend Dog Meat could write like either of them, I would not only have finished reading his entire (much shorter) open letter, he would probably go places within the MRM or even other similar activist types of institutions. As it was, his letter was simply too long (and rambling) to bother with, irrespective of what it actually suggested.

    Paul Elam and JtO write very well too of course, however, after their recent literary ‘attacks’, it’s unlikely I’ll ever read any of the typical pro-feminist material and treachery that Elam at least writes, ever again.

    Another great writer and you also mentioned him yesterday, with his own: ..very unique…..style, is Stu….. he loves joining his phrases with all those…. dots, but his stories are really easy to read and they really…. ‘pack a punch’!

  21. Eric

    Probably the thing that was most disgusting of all was that Elam and Esmay defended Warren Farrell because of his position as an MRM founding father—then turned around and treated Angry Harry just like the Toronto protestors treated Warren Farrell. They come across as a gang of complete hypocrites and very likely false-flaggers as well.

    And notice too what that dunce Esmay said in the comments sections: “We’ve tried that conservative version of the MRM for 40 or so years and where has it gotten us?”

    If Esmay had actually been involved in the MRM longer than 3 months, he would have known that 20 or so years ago the ENTIRE MRM was made up roughly of Angry Harry, Warren Farrell, and Rookh Kshatriya and few others. All of whom, BTW, risked their careers to promote an extremely unpopular doctrine in a heavily-feminist environment. And now this little punk comes along and tells us that femihags like Erin Prizzey are more valuable to men than Angry Harry? Pffft.

  22. Alan Vaughn

    @theantifeminist
    As I said above another thing I like about Eivind’s blog is the quality of the comments that normally follow his posts, well MOST of them are good, informed and objective comments…

    Read this typical AVfm mangina’s response to Eivinds latest post. (Starting with:
    ‘Anonymous said…

    Okay. Let me explain this to you boy. The reason why women have never been reported, recorded or prosecuted as molestors or rapists,’…)

    But read on to see the responses (including Eivind’s) to the sappy little mangina!!

    LOL!

  23. jack

    Yes, the mangina above in Eivind’s blog tells he was forcefully raped by a 38 y.o. woman when he was 19. The woman must’ve been a strong woman and he must’ve been suffering from Duchenne muscular dystrophy.

  24. Alan Vaughn

    @Jack,
    Well he must have been suffering from something that made him totally unable to defend himself, or even from running away. He doesn’t mention anything about a firearm or any kind of weapon being used to effectively detain him?
    Or… Could it be that when he was 19 (and so full of his once-in-a-lifetime mega-dose of testosterone), that he was like me or any other NORMAL 19 year old male and therefore, just HAD to fuck her, because he was a 19 year old NORMAL male and enjoyed every second of the entire liaison, as I would have and did several times when I was that age!

    Even if it was possible for a man to be ‘raped’ by a woman, (even a really fat, ugly one) I would still NEVER subscribe to that feminist victimhood mantra or support it in anyway.

    If that mangina was describing a liaison with a 38 year old male Stevedore, he would have my full empathy, but even then I would say he should just ‘get over it’ and not declare himself a ‘victim’. We are men, not girls, not manginas!

    Men get on with life – we do things, we are in control. We don’t allow some relatively minor encounter in our past, make us miserable and dysfunctional for the rest of our lives, just because feminist abuse-industry baloney (designed to demonize and criminalize normal male sexuality), dictates that we ‘will be ruined for life’.

    Rape: Women are raped. Women DO NOT rape men or boys; seduce them yes, but rape? Don’t make me laugh…

    Another thing about Elam and his femRA, mRA and paedocrite cronies that makes all of them total hypocrites is if they are so concerned about men and boys being ‘raped’: why are they NOT AT ALL CONCERNED about their fellow men who are sent to prison to be arse raped and beaten daily, or even murdered by grotesque criminal thugs and bullies, because they were caught looking at images of 17 year old ‘children’ dressed in sexy clothes and smiling?
    (Sent to prison for being NORMAL men)?

    So rape of men is fine by them, providing such men are feminist defined paedophiles or ‘Creeps’ to use mangina Elam’s preferred word…

  25. Eric

    BTW, when I looked at AVfM again recently, I noticed that the banner “Angry Harry, Father of the Mens Movement” is gone and I haven’t seen it since the infamous debate.

    Maybe Angry Harry is having his very memory effaced, just like Jimmy Savile and Joe Paterno?

  26. Alan Vaughn

    @Eric

    Maybe Angry Harry is having his very memory effaced, just like Jimmy Savile and Joe Paterno?

    I’d say for sure, but this I think, will just prove to be mangina Elam’s ‘first step’ at totally denigrating and ridiculing Harry, in his efforts to silence his TRUTHFUL rhetoric.

    Elam being the total two-faced RAT that he is, it would not surprise me if he even sides up with some feminist-scum organism such as the SPLC asking them to help with trying to bring him down.

    I think Elam knows that Angry Harry is already a true ‘thorn in his side’ – his biggest opposer, (well he should know by now that AH is vehemently opposed to feminism – therefore to HIM and his feminist beliefs. LOL!).
    So, let’s all make sure we back him up on EVERYTHING, all of the time.

    This tactic will at least sort out the true MEN from the feminist manginas, if nothing else…

  27. theantifeminist

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    BTW, when I looked at AVfM again recently, I noticed that the banner “Angry Harry, Father of the Mens Movement” is gone and I haven’t seen it since the infamous debate.

    Seems utterly childish on the part of Paul Elam.

    Of course, it’s possible that Harry and him have been having a discussion away from that comment thread at AVfM, as I’m sure they were pretty close (Paul Elam even used to correspond with me before the Jay Hammers episode).

  28. Eric

    Antifeminist & Alan:
    This whole thing about removing the banner looks really bad. Angry Harry hadn’t blogged for awhile; and it almost looks like Elam was using his name and reputation (and donations) until he felt he was no longer useful.

    This is going to haunt Elam because he’s no double-bound: he’s alienated many MRAs and he can’t reign in his cadre of Sheilas without losing their support. Soon, they’re going to be the ones dictating the terms, just like the Socon blogger I mentioned earlier.

    P.S. Make sure you tell us about your holiday: the topless 16 y/o’s have got me interested! (But I’m sure the EUssr censors don’t permit any photos…pffft.)

  29. deniz

    I am a great fan of angryharry , paul elam is also good at opposing the femtards ,
    I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WHATS HAPPENING IS A FEMINISTS DREAM COME TRUE IE MEN FIGHTING MEN INSTEAD OF UNITING AGAINST FEMINISTS , THIS IS JUST WHAT FEMINISTS WANT , EVEN IF WE DISAGREE WITH EACH OTHER WE SHOULD UNITE TO FIGHT FEMINISTS , THERE S NO OTHER OPTION CAUSE FEMINISTS ALWAYS PUT ASIDE THEIR DIFFERENCES AND ARE UNITED IN THEIR SCHEMING AND GANGING UP AGAINST MEN , mrm will fizzle out if we keep fighting each other instead of kicking feminist ass

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