This comment appeared underneath JohnTheOther’s excellent reply to CNN’s ‘Are Men Stupid’ article :
Great article. It is also great to see that you attack feminist defined male sexuality.
I arrived at the men’s movement through interest in male sexual liberty and its restriction, be it age of consent issue (access to post-pubertal women), prostitution and simply sexual freedom.
Then I found out about father’s rights and the absurd enslavement of “good” family men. Really shocking. Did not know about it though I probably unconsciously avoided getting kids because of such laws. I had women that wanted my kids, no strings attached, just for their nice green eyes. I knew better and emptied out my condoms after use and checked if the condom wrappers still had air in them before use.
What still takes me aback is the great rift between the conservative father’s movement, that wants to make sure the perverts preying on their 17 year old daughters go to prison, and the sexual liberation anti-feminists.
It is very sad that the feminists disagree on prostitution and sexual liberty, but still invite SCUM authors and still don’t get a serious rift between the sexual liberation feminists and the main stream sex repressors. They agree but unite against men on all other issues they agree on.
On the other hand I am still dismayed that some great mens rights blogs got shut down because of a well known and very serious argument with well known writers of this great site. That rift could have ended in serious legal trouble, court and prison.
Men don’t need feminists to disturb their liberation movement, they destroy each other. This is very sad, and an issue that needs to be addressed.
While some people here would support lowering the age of consent to 16, very few would just support getting government out of adolescent’s bed rooms and scrape age of consent altogether or get it to protect only pre-pubertal children.
I keep repeating that that does not mean that people are free to prey on your daughters, it means that it should not be the government’s problem how you EDUCATE and CONTROL your daughter.
Also I don’t need to stress that age of consent draconian laws with absurd punishments (it should be a misdemeanor to err by 1-2 years) make women 5 years above the age of consent too dangerous to deal with (to be on the safe side don’t mess with anyone under 25. Even if you are only 20)
Notice this rather less perfect comment from the usually excellent ‘STU’ underneath the same article :
Hating on men for their sexuality, sex lives etc is one of the main tools feminists use to bring men down. Even men get on the bandwagon hating on other men for this. They should just shrug and say, so what. It’s all manginarism though, pretending to be horrified at the sex life of another man who has earned the wrath of the feminists. It’s all about…..yes……I’m not like that….I am……The One Good Man…….now…..how about a blow job.
We should just shrug and say so what, at any and all men’s sexual activity, apart from sexual activity with minors, or actual forced rape of course. In fact, we should have the same attitude for women to. Fuck as many men as you like, play on both sides of the fence, have all the fetishes and perversion that take your fancy……..fine by us….it’s only a problem when a woman uses her sexual activity to hurt men, cry victim, sexually out others to do harm, or make profit. I would put slutwalkers into that category as well.
“apart from sexual activity with minors, or actual forced rape of course”.
Now that’s odd, because STU here is putting having sex with minors (under 18) on the same level as forced rape, even though in bar a handful of Islamic medieval states, nowhere on Earth is it yet illegal to simply have sex with a consenting 17 year old. Even in the US of A, the age of consent is 16 in most states. In Europe, the average age of consent is 14.
Furthermore, despite being an experienced MRA, who appears to ‘get it’ as far as the understanding of feminist control of male sexuality is concerned, STU appears unaware or oblivious to the fact that it was feminists who created statutory rape laws in the late 19th and early 20th century.
Unfortunately, for some MRAs, feminist self-interested control of male sexuality is actually a good thing when it happens to agree with a conservative father’s desire for sexual control over his teenage daughter.